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But you do agree that people do get symptoms from Fin right? You just think it's fake news that the symptoms persist after stopping the drug? Is that an accurate description of your opinion? Asking genuinely. To me, it seems it would be a very large coincidence that someone would be living a normal life side effect free, get on fin, get sides, stop fin, and then have fins well known side effects continue to persist due to "other health issues" as you said. The timing would be very coincidental ...... These "other health issues" just by chance happen to appear right around the time someone started taking a pharmacological agent that is designed to lower ones androgens? This is why first principal analysis is often superior to relying purely on "muh peer reviewed studies". It's true that correlation doesn't equal causation. But what most people don't understand when they use that quote is that a strong enough correlation is often a pretty good signal that there is some causative element at play.

So if someone were to tell you "Ya I was 25 years old, got on fin Fin, used it fine for a few years with no issues, then slowly started to develop side effects, and when I quit Fin the side effects continued" you would not believe them and instead think it is other health issues that are causing the side effects they are reporting?

Is your opinion that PFS doesn't exist at all? What do you say to the people on this forum who when you go back and read their early posts are super supportive of Fin, then later get off it due to sides, and then say those sides are lingering for years and they still don't feel normal? Are these people lying? Or just suffering from other issues and blaming it on Fin?

Your hair loss pattern is very similar to mine. I think it's reasonable to expect you will end up somewhere between norwood 4 and norwood 6. How old are you? You should at the very least jump on topical minoxidil. This is the bare minimum of medication you should be on before considering a HT. As for Dr's, I would look at Dr Nader since he is very close to Texas and has great results for a reasonable price point.

I immediately thought of didu911's picture when you posted yours....

Haven't watched the full video so maybe he gets into this, but did he confirm that the way he's able to achieve such high graft counts just my homogenously depleting the donor region? I guess that's the only way possible, but man the donors look great afterwards..

I use minox almost every day and always shampoo to wash it out. Mainly because I have cats and it's very toxic to them (and dogs too). I don't think shampooing every day causes any damage to the hair follicle itself, at worst it dries out the hair a bit but nothing permanent.

I agree with the statement that "only a small percentage of men are truly side effect free on this drug", but wouldn't the side effects be noticeable during masturbation even if you're not having sex?

Without seeing more pictures of you (At the very least ones that include your eyebrows) it's hard to say whether the hairline is too low or too straight. From the pictures you did post, I do think it's a bit too low and too straight, but I think any repair options might leave you worse off (Financially, aesthetically, time spent) than just keeping it how it is.

You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about

ManutD above was on fin and it looks like a lot of his transplanted hair fell out. So fin might give you some protection but apparently it doesn't work for everyone.

You could consider getting your hands on some viagra or cialis. Not as a long term solution, but because they will promote and sustain blood flow in the area which could have some benefit. Wishing you a speedy recovery. I understand why you're worried, but I don't think it will be long before you return to baseline.

If you are NW 1.5 you have no business getting a HT. Give it another 5 years and reconsider.

I remember actually, you DM'd me a picture and the difference was night and day in terms of your chest hair. Did you get any other sides or just the stark decrease in body hair?

We really don't know the exact mechanism by which DHT causes hair loss, but my understanding is that the "consensus opinion" is that the DHT binds to the hair follicle and somehow that causes a restriction in blood flow. What's odd about this is that DHT binding to the hair follicle PROMOTES hair growth in literally every other hair follicle on the body..... There is a lot we don't know about hair loss and a lot of contradictions in certain models, so it's definitely not a dumb question. So for some guys DHT could be the main culprit of hair loss, but for other guys it's theoretically possible that they might have vascular miniaturization from other causes that contribute more to their hair loss than DHT binding.

I haven't seen your pictures, but you're kind of assuming that you're a good candidate and that you're going to be happy with your "head of hair" after another HT. From your post it sounds like you had 1 bad HT already, so I don't know I kind of don't think it's as simple as step 1. take loan step 2. get ht. step 3. be happy. It's just a big risk to be going into debt for. And eventual further loss will probably mean another one is needed, so what do you do then, take out another loan?

Comparing it to a nice new car is not fair imo. A car (even though it's a deprecating asset) can be sold whenever needed for its current worth. A hair transplant can't be transferred to someone else in exchange for cash if you need the money in a pinch.

From what I can tell, lots of people on this forum have taken out loans in order to get HT's. Personally, I think this is totally insane, but it does seem that a lot of guys do it.

This is what I do, except like a 2.5 above the ears whereas that guy has like a zero I think. The right haircut can go a long ways to masking a receding hairline so kudos to you. A lot of guys rush into getting hairline work as nw2 or nw3 when really they should learn to style it and live with it and delay the HT until years later so they don’t have to chase it as they lose more

You are seriously over thinking this. If you want to preserve your hair your best bet is to jump on Min NOW. There is no reason for waiting whatsoever and waiting will leave you worse off. Don't try to over-analyze things based on your misunderstanding on one Youtuber. "Potency fading" just means you aren't going to get the same re-growth forever (this is obvious) This is different than minoxidil "no longer working".

Is this still about the Matt Dominance video? Maybe message him to get clarification.

I mean.... they can extract as many grafts from your chest as you have grafts on your chest. What are you even asking? JJ gave you the best answer, chest hair is really a worst case scenario option

I understand the thinking behind it and I'm still not convinced. Anecdotal evidence shows that many guys lose rapidly well past 35 or any other arbitrary age. People will come up with all sorts of theories for why their hair loss will stabilize. Lots of guys also continue to lose ON finasteride so I don't think some 1% drop in your T levels per year is going to have a big effect on your hair loss. The mechanism by which DHT causes hair loss is very poorly understood. The main idea is that by binding to the follicle restricts blood flow/nutrient flow to the follicle. But blood flow gets worse with age regardless, so any supposed benefit you might get from your 1% per year drop in testosterone could easily be counteracted by that.

Some people say it slows down as your age but that sounds like wishful thinking. Everyones balding pattern/rate is individual to them. I would not at all anticipate your balding to slow after 35 or any other arbitrary age.

In my opinion, this sounds like a mistake. 1200 won't really give you a big aesthetic improvement. and you're going to be left with a scar in the back of your head. This is the first I've heard of people with your hair type being better off with FUT. FUT is almost never the best option these days unless you are NW6 or NW7 which you are not. I don't mean to be harsh, but it sounds like you don't fully understand HT's as much as you should. I would cancel the appointment and do much more research. You're very lucky to have found this forum before going through with the surgery.