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Mate....

Poor angles or not, people with finer hair are always going to get a less stellar result compared to someone with thicker hair.

I hesitate to say this, but something I've noticed on this forum is that people tend to "err on the side of optimism" when it comes to stuff like this. If people say you have an above average donor, that likely means you have an average donor. If people say you have an average donor, that likely means you have a sub-average donor. "Donor" of course doesn't just mean the amount of grafts available, it also means the caliber of the grafts, # of hairs per graft, ect This isn't to imply you did anything wrong. This doesn't mean you aren't a candidate for HT. But I do worry that this forum sometimes creates a false hope for people when it should be a bit more discerning. That isn't to say HW did everything right. I'm not smart enough on HT's to really get into the fine details the way some are. But to be honest I don't think the people who told you you have an above average or fantastic donor are correct at all.

@un13 it's very possible that your issue is unrelated to finasteride, but it's also possible that it's directly related to finasteride. It's really impossible to say, but if you're feeling this way I think you are wise to try getting off of it. How would you rate your sleep quality? Any snoring or signs of sleep apnea?

Lol why did you edit your post to something completely the opposite of what you originally said?

I mean... 20% is 1/5 of the total price. That's a pretty significant "dent" unless they have super high margins (Which they might if the stuff is snake oil). Either way if a product is in high demand, it isn't a good sign that it's being heavily discounted.

Not a good sign when a product is released and a month or two later they're discounting it by a fairly steep 20%.

Definitely need to wait until at least month 9 to make anything resembling a final judgement, but I agree you should have A LOT more coverage by now =/ That said, sit tight until month 9.

His philosophy on temple points was very interesting

If something is conserved across millions of years of evolution is a pretty good sign that it's useful. Not always the case, but it's indicative of utility.

Merck and Kevin Mann know what androgens you need. Forget 100 million years of conserved evolution maintaining your DHT levels. DHT is like the male nipple! All kidding aside, I do believe that large numbers of men are able to take it without too many serious side effects. It's surprising but does seem to be the case. Why that is I'm not sure, but it certainly isn't because DHT is a "trash hormone".

You are not a great candidate I'm afraid and that's actually a bit of an understatement =/ That doesn't mean you can't get a major aesthetic improvement from HT's though. Just be ready for the fact that future loss may leave you with an unnatural look that requires additional surgeries. So you need enough time, money, and donor supply to be able to do so. A lot of guys continue losing even on fin/dut it seems so just be prepared for the possibility if you're set on going through with it.

Of course Patrick Dempsey's hairline is going to look natural on Patrick Dempsey. That doesn't mean Patrick Dempseys hairline is going to look natural on a guy who has MPB...

I really like that you kept the NW2 hairline. I think it suits you well and you're actually better off with that look than if you had gone NW1 (much less NW0 or something). This will age really well.

What exactly do you mean by all follicles of the head are genetically identical? That doesn't ring true. Are you just saying no gene or cluster of genes has been found that would make the safe zone hairs different? If so I'd say absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. If you don't mind please elaborate on your mechanical stress/skull expansion thoughts.

Yea they'll be able to assess that during consult. It sounds like you've got proper expectations which is really the main thing. If you're fine with a sparse crown that will actually be good because it will help alleviate any concerns of you developing a "bullseye" pattern as your loss continues. Basically further loss will just cause a diffuse look across the whole area, not a super dense bullseye surrounded by a "moat" of baldness.

If you think hairs taken from the safe zone always survive till death... You've got some research to do. Edit: Ok @100Rings beat me to making the same point.

US has the best healthcare in the world if you are able to afford it, and is by far the leader in health care technology and innovation (Largely as a result of the privatized nature of the system). This is not a "USA #1" attitude, just the facts. That doesn't mean its population has good health outcomes though. But you're conflating two different topics.

I got crown work exclusively for my first and so far only HT. I am also not on finasteride. If you're going to go the non-fin route, I think it's fine as long as you have a very strong donor and enough money to spend on future HT's. The thing about crown work though is that unless you have a ton of 3/4 hair grafts density will probably be fairly sparse so you need to go into it with proper expectations of what can be achieved in a single session. You also have quite a large spot to cover (Probably like 3 or 4 times the spot I had to cover). You're a fairly difficult case I think it's fair to say. Two good videos below on the topic.

That may be true but it's largely irrelevant to my original point

Yep Regardless of anyone's opinion on Finasteride, there is nothing wrong with doing more research into the drugs and its side effects. If everyone is confident that side effects are as low as Merck claims/claimed, then more research will bear this out. I'm willing to change my opinion on it given enough evidence. This is the one area of balding research where you guys get mad when people put money into it!

In my opinion, you can't really talk about "Is Eugenix worth it", you need to talk about "Is Dr X worth it" If you're getting Sethi/Bansal and you're a high Norwood Eugenix is probably worth it, but it sounds like you aren't high Norwood. For any of their other Dr's I'd need to see more of their reviews over time to form a proper opinion on their work.

Do you have pics from a day or two post op? Or the day of the op? Would be nice to see

What is Pekiner's approximate cost per graft? He is quite higher than the Gur's/Turan's right?

That's very interesting - do you know why Google's algorithm does this?