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Hi all, I wanted to document my recent experience. Hopefully this will be useful to follow as covers a range of things I know people are interested in: crown transplant, oral minoxidil user, combination of Bisanga AND Kostis and beard hair. So hopefully an interesting or helpful thread, and hopefully for me help me through the coming months of recovery and hopefully 🙏 growth! so the stats: i am 37 I have had two previous FUE with Prohair Clinic Belgium (they now focus on SMP as the lead doctor retired). These totalled 6k grafts and covers front then the rest in two separate ops 10 years ago. These were successful from my perspective, but ten years on I had least any native hair I had then (not any meds until recently) and wanted another transplant. Long story short I had several consultations remotely from recommended doctors and travelled to Belgium from uk in April for a face to face consultation with BHR. Having done allot of research BHR we’re my number 1 choice. Dr Bisanga was unable to be there (family emergency) and I was offered the choice to change date or see dr Kostis, I was happy to proceed with Kostis. After having 6k grafts in my previous surgeries I was keen to understand what was possible and in a detailed consultation with dr Kostis these were my results: Hair Character - Straight Hair Thickness - Very Fine Donor Density - 70/70/80 (average - 73FU/cm2) Hair Groupings - Mainly 1 and 2 hair grafts Pattern of loss - If no previous surgery, likely a NW7 progressive pattern i was very surprised when The doctor suggested I had in the region of 4-4.5k scalp grafts in the bank and a good beard and 2 separate surgeries were discussed to address frontal third density and the crown. The crown bothered me the most and as all my hair in the front was transplanted hair (so pretty safe) we agreed on a plan of 2.5k scalp and 500 beard to address the crown. After this we would review to see what was achievable with the remaining donor. Oral minoxidil was recommended to reduce miniaturisation of my donor and strengthen overall all my hair ready for surgery. with my very fine hair and hair groupings I knew that this is still an illusion of dentistry even at that graft number due to the actual number of hairs we’d get and diameter of each. i won’t go through the whole day and build up but happy to answer questions, what I will say is Ian the patient liaison is superb and tbh a big reason for me picking Bhr as I had offered from several very good clinics (obviously and the drs and the rep was my no1 reason!) but he was so detailed and responsive. The in person consultation for me with dr Kostis was critical as if I’d have been told what I was told without an in person using microscopes etc I would not have believed it. i was offered dr kostis and bisanga as a pair or you can have either on their own all at different price structures. This is made very clear. I was very comfortable with dr kostis and trusted the partnership which I believe is the package offered initially to most now. on the day (Monday 25th July) It was not easy I won’t lie as was there from 730am until prob 930pm but the whole staff were amazing both drs and all the technicians who worked so hard with no breaks. The anaesthetic was allot more painful than I remembered! But it’s a means to an end! Bisanga I believe did all my incisions and kostis all the punching extractions. The same tech team is used regardless of dr choice which was a great point made by Ian as they play such an important role. we ended with 2500 scalp and 700 beard and I could t be happier with my choice of clinic. Obviously no results and I have to trust the reputation of the clinic here. id like to thank them all as hardly got to see them all before I left as it was so late but after spending 13 hours solid with them, they were lovely people and made me feel very relaxed and safe. We even had a few laughs at times!! here are my immediate post opp crown and day after the donor. I will share all the official pictures from the clinic when I receive them and will share pre opp below as well again official pre opp will follow. and breathe! If anyone wants details of the day etc I am happy to answer but didn’t want to give my life story.
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First two pics are from 2 month ago and other three are from now hair loss or crown ?
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First of all thanks a lot to all the contributors of this forum. I decided to go with Eugenix based on the great results I saw here. I got my crown only hair Transplant with 2500+ grafts from Dr. Arika Bansal and team (Premium Package) yesterday. The surgery started at 9am and ended at 6:30pm, overall I didn’t feel much pain as everything was well organized by Eugenix Mumbai team. I have been recommended 1700 to 2000 grafts but I requested for more density hence went to 2500 grafts. I am still waiting for more details from the Mumbai clinic, will post the graft info as soons as I receive it. Here are some pre-op and post op pics. Before: Day 0: (After coming back to hotel - No pain at all) Day 1: ( No pain but noticed mild swelling in the donor area) I will keep updating my progress everyday. Thanks again and looking forward for your comments and suggestions.
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I am French, 57 years old . After the success of my first FUE of 3000 grafts on February 25, 2020, I decided to have a 2nd FUE on October 17, 2021 to cover the temporal area and the crown. Here are the result of my first FUE with eugenix : Choosing Eugenix for a second FUE was a no-brainer, for the following reasons : dd excellent result of my first surgery the DHT method (graft extraction and immediate implantation) 2 surgeons (Pradeep Sethi and Arika Bansal) whose expertise is world-class great designer of the front line safe clinic, dedicated to transplantation, at the cutting edge of technology very good value for money. My second experience at Eugenix was as good as the first one with full support for logistics and operational monitoring. I am very confident in the future results, and I already start to see some very promising results, only 3 months after You can insert the patient whatsapp group --> https://chat.whatsapp.com/BYn8stEXrkM6xtqXbTwBOR , If you want testimonials, and even see the results of others patients. I am posting some photos and will post more photos in few month. before: after surgery : 3 month : 3 month : 3 month :
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I am 21 years old and have been extremely worried about my crown recently. The two photos here show it exposed to natural light facing a window, and the other just in normal light. Do I have anything to be worried about?
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Hi, I was under FUE procedure almost 4 months ago. I'm more active on french forums but like this one too. Finally I'm making this topic. I'm 36, NW3V. I started losing hair in early twenties. Very agressive loss until late 20s then it slowed down a lot. It started by vertex and frontal thinning appeared later. I have no history of hair loss in my family. Pretty unlucky 😡 The operation was done within two days : day one : 2000 grafts for hairline day two : 1539 for crown/vertex (the total was 3559 because I lost 20 grafts when hurting my head 😡 I'm posting personal pics. And also other from the doc just before the surgery. I must confess about doc's pics : the light was pretty agressive which makes my hair look worse than normal conditions.
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I have been on minoxidil since I was 16 and fin since I was 20. I am nearly 32 and would like to fix my crown in the next few years. Concealer and styling has worked well but I'd really like to not have to worry about covering it up anymore. Dr Feller rebuilt my frontal third in 2012 and my loss hasn't progressed much, if any, in the last 11 years. I tried to get a pic of donor and scar. Will post hairline in another thread soon. Please let me know how many grafts you think I'd need and whether you think I'm a candidate. As you may notice, I have fine blonde hair and light skin. Thanks!
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Hi all, I am 10 days post FUE on hairline and crown. I assume I can shower with direct pressure at this stage, but out of an abundance of caution I am filling up a cup with sink water then pouring it gently over m head. Short story is I accientally filled my cup with very hot water and poured it on my crown. It wasn't scaling or boiling, but was uncomfortably hot. Now I'm worried that I poured this very hot water directly on the already inflamed grafts and ruined them. Is this something I legitimately need to be concerned about, or is it my mind getting the best of me? I know countless resources say by Day 10 the grafts are firmly anchored in and I am in the clear, but still concerned about graft damage and pouring hot liquid on a bunch of scabs. Thoughts? -
Hi all Looking for modern advice on crown transplants. I'm still very happy with my hair line result from Dr Feller 8 years ago, but now I'm starting to think about the crown. I have a horizontal rectangular thin/patchy area that sometimes looks very full and others not so. Hair style and concealer has helped me for the last 10 years but I want to get this sorted out eventually. I'm 31, from the UK, on propecia and minoxidil and have had one FUT with Dr Feller in July 2012. So, what's the latest thinking on crowns? Is Dr Wong still considered the best? Is mid 30s too young? Thanks
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Hi, my name is Zac and while I'm waiting (very patiently) for my hair to grow I figured I'd take the time to share my results. Thanks to all who have shared their results and stories in the past, as they've helped me a great deal in preparing for the process. I just turned 40 years old in July, about a month after my surgery with Dr. Vories in South Carolina. It took me a few years to decide to have the transplant, but the only thing really holding me back was the cost. I felt Dr. Vories was fairly priced in comparison to most I'd researched, and his results seemed to be on par with the best I'd seen, if not better. I made an appointment for a 2000 graft session to fill in my crown for June of 2017. My experience at his clinic was great. Everyone there made me feel comfortable. They fed me lunch and we watched Caddyshack (my choice..they have hundreds on Apple TV) for the portion of the surgery where I was upright. For the extraction I laid on my stomach with my head facing right for 500, then left for 500 more, then with my head straight down in a massage style pillow for the final 1000. We ended up with 2004 grafts extracted. The only painful part was the numbing, which is a decent needle prick over and over in the area he's working. I sat upright (but leaning back a bit) for the rest of the surgery. Again, the pain was fairly mild and only during the numbing portion. He started to implant a few a little soon on one spot, and I simply told him I could feel it so he numbed me up a little more and on we went. So far I feel good about the decision and the process. I have pics I'll attach below from before, 1 day, 3 days, 2 weeks, 1 month, and 2 months. The 3 month mark will come in mid-September, at which point I'll continue to load new pics monthly. Thanks again to all who operate this website and all who have contributed to the forum. -
Just wanted any second opinions as to whether my crown is starting to go or not? I’m 20 years old and I’ve always had quite a visible crown, not sure if I’m just being paranoid or if there might be something to worry about
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Dear all, In the next video of Dr Bhatti's incredibly informative series, he discusses the Crown/Vertex area and explains in his own detailed fashion the different aspects to be aware of including expectations and failure. A must see for all patient with thinning Crowns planning on having this troublesome area restored. Some valuable lessons to be learnt, enjoy! -
This patient came to Dr. Arocha to restore his crown with a hair transplant. Our team performed a 2500 FUT (strip) procedure in the crown. The after images were taken 14 months after his procedure. Before: After: Immediately after his procedure: After: Before: After: -
Hi everyone. Im 42 years old and have been thinning in my crown area for over 15 years. It has stabilized for the most part. I am doing some research but it seems there are not as many crown before/after photos from the physicians results pages... Based on what I have seen I have narrowed it down to Dr. Wesley, Dr. Wong, and Dr. Arocha. Who would you recommend for the crown area? Thank you in advance for you help
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FUE: 2329 Fu’sCrown reconstruction by Dr. Lupanzula. Angle and direction are crucial in achieving a natural whirl pattern requiring skill and experience.- 32 years old man- NW IV- Goal: Crown, Ø = 8 cmDensity: 45 Fu's/cm2Total Fu's : 2329I hair : 284II hairs : 1066III hairs : 874IV hairs : 105H/G : 2,34 ScottPatient Liaison ManagerMEDIKEMOS ClinicTo learn more about our clinic, Dr. Lupanzula's work and our results, you could visit the following websites:Our English language website:http://fuehairdoctor.co.uk/https://medikemosclinic.com/en/We are the only clinic in Belgium recommended by The Hair Transplant Mentor™https://www.hairtransplantmentor.com...ir-transplant/View the best hair transplant results videos on Youtube!https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...271D4AAF5D8C57• Mobile:+ 447855544669• Office:+ 32 2 535 55 40• Fax:+ 32 2 416 67 07• Medikemos Hair Transplantation263 Av. Brugmann, 1180 Bruxelles Belgique
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FUE: 2329 Fu’sCrown reconstruction by Dr. Lupanzula. Angle and direction are crucial in achieving a natural whirl pattern requiring skill and experience.- 32 years old man- NW IV- Goal: Crown, Ø = 8 cmDensity: 45 Fu's/cm2Total Fu's : 2329I hair : 284II hairs : 1066III hairs : 874IV hairs : 105H/G : 2,34 ScottPatient Liaison ManagerMEDIKEMOS ClinicTo learn more about our clinic, Dr. Lupanzula's work and our results, you could visit the following websites:Our English language website:http://fuehairdoctor.co.uk/https://medikemosclinic.com/en/We are the only clinic in Belgium recommended by The Hair Transplant Mentor™https://www.hairtransplantmentor.com...ir-transplant/View the best hair transplant results videos on Youtube!https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...271D4AAF5D8C57• Mobile:+ 447855544669• Medikemos Hair Transplantation263 Av. Brugmann, 1180 Bruxelles Belgique
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Hi all, I’m 25 and just recently had a bit of a scare when I saw a photo of my crown. Am I thinning or just overreacting? thanks
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Well it’s been a few years since I last posted, I had 3700 FUT with Dr Pathomvanich in 2009, all went well very happy with the result which was mainly about “framing the face”. My crown was always thin, I haven’t been on fin recently, and I don’t think my hair has changed that much, but will hop back on fin before I get another transplant. The strip was done with a trichophatic closure, which worked perfectly, basically invisible, that coupled with lower transaction rates means I’m really keen to pursue FUT again rather than FUE. I haven’t ruled out Thailand again, just that the country is occasionally a bit unstable politically, so I’m getting a consultation with Dr Bisanga shortly - though I know he does a lot of FUE as well. I'm hoping for enough scalp laxity to get another 3,000 or so graphs to add density all over, including crown, and not lower my hairline at all. So my question, bearing in mind my preferences, would be for other Dr recommendations in the “mid” price range for great FUT results with minimal donor scarring. I’m in London but will travel anywhere. I don’t really want to go on a long waiting list however, so standby surgery would be fine as well. 1 .
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I feel like my crown is thinning, Im 17 so I know it's unlikely and I'm probably paranoid, but I would like some input from people who know what they're talking about. I also know that this could just be temporary thinning, but I'm not sure.
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INTRODUCTION Dear forumers, Greetings from a fellow forumer and former/recent ASMED patient. It's been a while since my last visit, but a lot of things have happened regarding my hair loss (problems) in the meantime. Some of you could remember me as I was posting about my 3200 FUE HT journey with ASMED a few years ago. Since my last forum post in January 2017, I've undergone second transplant with the same clinic (and third in total) in the January 2018. Almost a year passed since my second transplant with ASMED (and third in total), so I decided to open a new thread to share my journey and result with the forum, as it is fair considering how much it and its members helped me in my hair restoration battles. Seems like a whole life has passed since I started to battle hair loss and jumped into HT chair. Unlike my former thread, this time I practically waited for my full 12 months result before posting anything, so I will present most of the materials and pictures through several monthly progress-themed posts, but in relatively short time frame. I hope you won't find unconvincing if this time I skip most of the details about my stay in the clinic/hotel, or the procedure, since most of the other recent Asmed patients described everything in their threads, as did I in my own old thread. However, I will point out on several details, because nowadays it seems that the discussion about ASMED practices is threatening to 'escalate into a full blown forum war' (just joking ;). I'll try to be as brief as possible, and if someone is interested in specific details you can ask everything via thread or PM. BTW, my old thread is still available in the patients results sub-forum (ASMED, 3200 FUE grafts in hairline and mid scalp, link: So, let's get to the point. In my old thread I mentioned several times that I was considering another, smaller HT to address my once severely thinned crown, which was stabilized and improved through continuous use of finasteride, and cca 1200 grafts from my first FUE HT with one Hungarian clinic (that HT unfortunately did not yield optimal result). However I was not satisfied with the amount of improvement, as it was still very see through in strong sunlight or artificial light, not to mention that certain longer hairstyles with such crown were looking unconvincing because of the lack of volume. I also mentioned that I was willing to increase density in my hairline. Honestly, there was no real need for that as my hairline result from the former HT with ASMED was nothing short of excellent considering the awful condition before 2nd HT. But hair greed really did struck me, and I couldn't stop debating with myself how it would look like if I add just a little bit more. Also, I wanted to be able to wear my hair a bit longer, in reminiscence to my hair glory days in high school (I was convinced back than that I have top quality hair, and was pretty much identifying myself with that particular image of a semi long-haired dude). Ahh those blessed memories (excessively exaggerated, ofc) I couldn't get my mind off! As my hairloss was and is pretty much stable due to the finasteride use, there were no real cons except for being conservative for the sake of future planning, finally I decided to jump into chair again! So, 3,5 years after my HT with ASMED, in July 2017 I contacted the clinic and sent updated photos for Dr. Erdogan's evaluation. That went smoothly, again I was considered a good candidate due to before mentioned factors, and Dr. Erdogan evaluated 2000 grafts procedure could be executed, with 1000 grafts for crown and 1000 for frontal part. This time, Sema was communicating with me as I was informed that my former patient coordinator no longer worked for the clinic. I filled in the forms, sent the 1000 EUROS deposit via bank transfer and booked the flight. My surgery was scheduled for January 18th 2018. First set of photos include pre-op consultation dry&wet pics:
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This patient had a total of 2,485 grafts done over two sessions in the crown area with a Follicular Unit Strip method. Photos shown below are pre op, and 1 year post op after his second procedure. Before: After:
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I am 23 and last year my mother noticed the hair near my crown thinning. I have been pretty paranoid since. I get a lot of conflicting opinions from people close to me, ranging from ‘everything is perfectly’ fine to ‘you will be bald within 2-3 years’. Thought I would get an opinion from more experienced people on here who have gone through similar journeys. I am currently taking daily: 10,000 mcg biotin pills, 500 mg Saw Palmetto pills, 350 mg beta-sitosterole and shampoo daily with either bitoin shampoo/alpecin (both which claim to block DHT, the latter using caffeine). And every 3-4 days I also use Nizoral 2% since I have dandruff. I am a bit afraid to start fina, mainly because of side-effects which 2% of the people noticed. Also I am not sure how much it would cost to get a prescription as I don’t have a lot of money and my insurance will not cover appointment for this kind of hairloss (at least thats what I think) so 2 questions for the community: 1) How bad is the hair loss from pictures (taken from iphone front camera) and how much time approximately before it is extremely noticeable and irreversible? 2) What treatment should I opt for? Shouls I continue my regimen or switch to fina ans minoxdil combo? Anyone noticed positive effects from saw palmetto and/or beta-sitosterole? Thanks in advance!
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Hi, I have been noticing some scalp showing on the back of my head and was wondering whether you think that it is normal or not. Also since I am 18, should I start getting some sort of medication or something or should I wait. Attached find some pics Thanks
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I want to undergo hair transplantation surgery. Unfortunately, the donor area in the back of my head is weak and the baldness area in my head is large where I have the baldness stage of NW7. Therefore, extraction of grafts from my chest is a must. Therefore, I have been informed by the most hair transplantation clinics and advisory websites that covering the whole of my head is not possible, especially in one session. In the first session, which may also be the only session for me, it will be only possible to cover my hairline and the frontal area of my head, so that the crown and the back of my head will continue to be empty. Some clinics have informed me that it may be possible to cover my crown in another session one year later by extracting grafts from my chest. Few Clinics are ready to cover all of my head by extracting grafts from the back of my head and my chest. I am really mystified whether to cover the frontal half of my head in the first surgery, which may be the only transplantation surgery for me or to cover the whole of my head in one surgery in a clinic ready to do so for me. If only the frontal half of my head will be covered on one session because it is reportedly and medically the typical solution for me, will it be acceptable for my appearance to be with a half-covered head and a bald spot in my head crown? Of course, it will be optimal for my personal photos and my video chatting to be with only a frontal coverage for my head. However, in real life and for youtubing, I am not sure if it will be optimal or not. How will my hair look like? How will I style my hair? Will I be obligated to a specified hairstyle? Will I have to lengthen my hair or shorten it? Will my head appearance (face and hair) be acceptable without any criticism or mockery? Will it be a distraction for the eye that looks at me to stare at my bald spot in the back of my head other than looking at my face and my frontal hair? -
Some clinics have informed me that hairs extracted from the chest fall after being implanted in the head in 3-4 years. The chest's hair has a very different nature and anagen phases of the head hair. However, in many cases, it gets the same nature of the head hair and gets softer and longer in an only case opposite to the Orentreich’s theory that the transplanted organ keeps its original nature. Does the chest's hair fall from the head when it sometimes fails to take the same nature of the head hair, or may it fall even if it takes the same nature of the head hair? How long does it take for the chest's hair after transplanted in the head to take the same anagen phases of the head hair where there exists a very big difference in the anagen phases between the head hairs and the chest's hair? Is the reason that the crown area, where the body's hair is usually transplanted, is the least area irrigated because of the little collateral circulation which leads to poor follicular nutrition in this area and therefore the hair is more likely to fall from it even for non-hereditary reasons? Or is the reason, otherwise, because the hair implanted in it, even if takes the same nature of the head hair, may also take its genetic susceptibility to fall?
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