HappyMan2021

if you have money to burn then sure. I would hire a medical assistant and also a bodyguard who can keep people from accidentally bumping into you and dislodging a graft.

looping in @Rossybop as I know he has been having this issue as well Reasons I Can Come Up With: 1. Not being on any anti DHT meds 2. Your MPB is so aggressive that even anti DHT meds are working enough 3. Doctor took donor hair that was not part of the safe zone 4. Some type of pre-existing skin condition or something similar 5. You actually are not "losing" hair and this is just shedding. Perhaps your HT led to a disruption in your shedding cycles or something like that 6. You had temporary shock loss in your native hair and it is now on a different shedding cycle than the transplant hair 7. You had permanent shock loss in your native hair. 8. This is all psychological and you actually are not losing or shedding any hair. When a post-op HT patient looks at their scalp long enough, they are almost guaranteed to focus on nuances like this (imaginary or not).

@Dillpickle123 can you comment on the circled area in the attached photo? Are you seeing subtle signs of growth here, how confident are you, etc? I am a former Mwamba patient too and this area is lacking for me as well 🤷‍♂️

I'm so confused. Why are you taking topical Dut and oral Fin? why are you taking both Dut and Fin? Why would you double your Fin dose?

unfortunately, repair surgeries often can't often correct every single wrong of an initial botched surgery. And worst case, as you point out in your title, repair surgeries have a risk of leaving patients worse for wear. Any surgery - whether its a repair or otherwise - carries risk. Good news that SMP exists and can be kept as an option.

any doctor in the world - including the "elite" ones - are unlikely to give a 100% perfect result. Look hard enough and even "homerun" results will not mimic nature to some extent. It's all subjective.

the best time to start Finasteride is YESTERDAY!!!!

wow, 2.5 yr wait time for a consult, so 3.5 yrs until surgery I'm guessing? Just think.....if someone did 3.5 years worth of intense psychotherapy, they could learn to accept and embrace baldness and no longer have any need for hair transplants 🤣

HLC all the way baby. In all seriousness, HLC is arguably the best ROI/bang-for-your-buck clinic in the world.

I don't understand, so there is a 'complimentary' 2 nights included in Eugenix's packages? Wouldn't the package be alot cheaper if these 2 nights weren't added-in? Doesn't seem very 'complimentary' to me 🤣

sorry to hear about this. are you able to share pics?

if you are a 1st timer or otherwise straightforward case then I would say no its not necessary - there are plenty of other competent doctors who you can get better bang for your buck. Especially bc of the VAT tax, but for other reasons as well. Unless you are a Belgian citizen and directly benefitting from the tax, it can be a very hard pill to swallow. The ROI I as an American get from paying an additional +25% costs of surgery to the Belgian government is literally the same as if I just lit the money on fire. It's alot easier to stomach paying for a very costly HT surgery as long as you know all your money is directly going towards the clinic, operation, medical staff, etc. But until the Belgian government starts providing me with some benefits, I consider the money sorely lost. But whatever. You have to follow the laws of the country you're in. What can you do 🤷‍♀️ If you want to look into other Belgian doctors, I am pretty sure Bisanga's patients dont have to pay the VAT tax. But I am not sure of the reason why. Maybe you want to look into him. Feriduni is good too. I have no idea if he has the VAT tax tho. Hattingen is an arms reach away in Switzerland, he might be a viable option. Lastly, keep in mind that the reality is most guys need multiple HT's for a happy end-result. So that would mean multiple VAT taxes as well.

No correlation with hair transplants or hairloss.

im honestly not seeing any signs of MPB. The reason you shouldn't wet your hair for photos is because it weighs down your hair and can make it appear thinner than it actually is. Also its just not the default/natural state of your hair. The same reason you wouldn't want to show pics with a bunch of gel in your hair, etc.

Can you take more pictures, and also pictures that are normal profile photos? Headshot, right side, left side, and back? The positioning in your current pics is kind of awkward. Also don't have your hair wet. With the information and pics you have provided, you barely have any MPB, and a hair transplant at this stage would do more harm than good. Its like if a 50 yr old had the very very slightest of hip pain, and opted to get a full blown hip transplant, even if it wasnt necessary for another 20 years or so. If I were you I would try to relax and enjoy my youth. Come back to this world if you have more hairloss.

Everyone is mentioning swelling, but what evidence of swelling is there? @LptfwpkHh4Lzccg8GNU6NZwXbM does your face have any swelling? Does your face look like you've been in a boxing match at all? If you don't have any actual swelling symptoms, I'm inclined to think it is bad hairline design.

Many doctors simply hate working on the crown. This is because the crown is a black hole for grafts. It is very hard to estimate the # of grafts needed for the crown from visual observation alone. Whatever your visual observation is, triple that amount. The crown can suck someone's donor count dry. Since the frontal third makes the most difference, any doctor who cares about your donor availability will only focus on the frontal third. Also the crown develops its 'final form' of MPB much later than the frontal area/hairline. It is hard to predict just much crown loss you will actually have until later in life. For this reason as well, doctors can be hard-pressed to do significant crown work on younger people.

of course there are exceptions but in general scabs will not make or break your result. For both my 1st and 2nd surgeries I was super nervous about taking off the scabs so just let them naturally come off. It took around 3 weeks. As far as I can tell it had zero impact on results. Unless the scabs are looking infected or otherwise abnormal, there is nothing necessarily wrong with just letting them come off naturally. So worst case scenario you don't really have anything to worry about.

this just contributes to the negative stigma towards males getting cosmetic procedures. Society says its ok to take out a $50k loan for a hot new car which immediately depreciates in value the moment you drive off the dealership. But take out a $15k loan for a permanent procedure which is investing in your self-esteem, confidence, etc. and will be a permanent improvement to one's life, and suddenly its being "irresponsible" Also using a credit card for surgery is basically the same thing as taking out a loan. So I assume your comment applies to anyone who cannot pay for surgery in a 100% cash upfront manner.

Agree with @BeHappy it is harder and easier. Easier: The surgery and post-op process may be easier because you have already gone through it. Also if you are going to the same doctor for the 2nd pass, you will have less anxiety and fear of the unknown as the doctor is no longer a mystery and you pretty much know what you are getting into Harder: Perhaps you went into you 1st surgery extremely naive and really thought you were a "one and done" case. Perhaps you spent all your savings on the 1st surgery, bent over backwards with your boss and work to take time off, and suffered thru months and months of the ugly duckling phase. Perhaps your 1st surgery was even a terrible botch job So now, for the 2nd round, you may have to take out a loan and be in a dicey financial position, have to awkwardly tell your boss you need another procedure, are likely a lot more jaded and cynical towards this industry, and overall just depressed that you will have to sacrifice so much money and time towards yet again another surgery. And then who is to say you will even be happy with just 2 surgeries? You may need 3, 4, 5, etc. Ultimately the psychological journey varies person by person. There are various factors affected by HR surgery, which are not the same for any 2 people.

looks like normal scab shedding but I can't definitively say

to the benefit of Dr. Lorenzo, he is a well-established doctor with proven and consistent results. I assume you did your research, and he is the surgeon you went with. At the end of the day you have to trust the surgeon you chose. Contrary, to the benefit of not being naive, sometimes doctors will promise you the world during consult, but when it is surgery day they will lower expectations and/or refuse to do additional work that will - for whatever reason - complicate surgery or adversely affect their financial bottom line. I can't tell if which is the reason without photos. Also keep in mind that basically 90% of guys will need multiple HT's to be happy. If this is your very first HT - even with Dr. Lorenzo did a 10/10 job - just due to the nature and science of MPB and hair transplants, you may need a 2nd sugery to take care of the forelock area.

I think at minimum you should do some free consults with some lawyers and see if you may have a case. You don't have anything to lose. And what the heck do you have to be afraid of? If the doctor legally wronged you, then you can legally get justice for it. After 10 years I also have to assume that this doctor doesn't even remember you at this point.

Get a lawyer and start escalating things. In general you cant sue for a HT if its just that the aesthetics are bad (even if the work is super poor and botched) But if you have a neurologist confirming nerve damage, and multiple dermatologists confirming permanent redness - I would call that a physical injury and that really escalates things in terms of the law.

Well even when i was initially on Fin, i didnt notice any further hairloss. So i would have rated Fin 10/10 in prevention. I still happily and without hesitation upgraded to Dut tho. Bc even though Fin was apparently working marvelously, i still wanted the best preventative treatment out there and Fin wasnt it.