Doron Harati

And some cases you can't repair even if you'll have 1 million $ budget, I was lucky I could have 2 repairs after being botched by a hair mill in Turkey.

**The procedures were done by Dr. Christina A short video from our paitent 🙂

It's too soon for HT

I am huge fan of Sting and The Police, but when it comes to Dune franchise, I prefer Dune 2 on DOS, always loved to play the evil NW7 red Harkonnen guys 😆

Thank you 🙏🏻 I also want to mention my redness is gone.

Still recovering from the trauma.

Hi @JC71all is great! I am after 4 weeks and 2 days from the procedure. Came back to the gym and entering to the shedding "ugly duck" season, but luckily I have enough growth of transplanted hair from my previous repair procedure by Dr. Maras😉 Photos from today:

As was mentioned before on this thread, I tried 2 times to connect the paitent on video Skype and he didn't answer as in the mails he said he's expecting for my Skype call. The last post that the patient put a photo was on the 5.5 month spot. We are now trying to regain contact with the patient so that we can see the final result and if there is a problem to establish how we can help him.

Your photos are very blurry, I need better ones, please contact me on WhatApp for estimation +972526542654

At HDC clinic we offer Dr. Christina per 2 Euros for graft, price includes our free accommodations and driver, we're recommend in this forum.

Your donor photo is too dark and blurry to share an opinion, but it does look scarred and depleted, the question is how deep the scarring is.

I think you can have HT over your crown, donor looks healthy on the photo.

I am not familiar with your case, but in general as I said for additional procedure HDC usually estimate around for 70% amount number of grafts from previous procedure, it can be even more, it various between every paitent, there's no binary formula.

At HDC consultation the clinic usually estimate 70% minimum of grafts of the amount from 1st if there's a need more than 1 surgery, however my repair case was different, the clinic used microscopic scans of my donor on both repair procedures to check the quality of my donor. For instance if a NW6 paitent will want to have a procedure, HDC will explain if the patient can have more than 1 procedure, the clinic make strategy plan before accepting a paitent.

I agree with the clinics, donor looks problematic, drugs may effect it's quality with a follow up of 6-12 months. If you'll have now HT, there's a possibility you'll be happy with the result, but there's a good chance that after 2-4 years the DHT will get to your donor and most of the transplanted hair will fall. Cheap hair mills or bad doctors probably won't clarify this. In my opinion, an ethical clinic will always put the paitent's interest before theirs.

I agree with the clinics, donor looks problematic, drugs may effect it's quality with a follow up of 6-12 months. If you'll have now HT, there's a possibility you'll be happy with the result, but there's a good chance that after 2-4 years the DHT will get to your donor and most of the transplanted hair will fall. Cheap hair mills or bad doctors probably won't clarify this.

Some cases don't require pre microscopic exam, HDC is very conservative and careful when approaching a paitent, my case did demand microscopic exam, it varies between every paitent. I don't know why other clinics do their methods, when I did my research for repair I checked only MD clinics, contacted paitents, met them and decided HDC is the best option for what I am looking for without any compromise, unfortunately I also know high cost clinics with MD doctors that perform the surgical parts and don't use microscopes or even Lupa nor magnification glasses when punch, extract and making the incisions. Really glad you're happy with your result, can you share it with me? On thread? You can also send photos on private if you prefer.

Every clinic has thier philosophy for best or correct result, it's also a matter of taste, for instance to get natural hairline it's not enough to have only single grafts, you'll also need to create it with zigzags, some top clinics prefer straight lines, some prefer conservative lines for paitents who don't need need to save grafts because they believe it's better, I made my choice to go with HDC also because I love the hairlines with personal adjustment. I also coordinate plastic surgeon doctor, so for that matter it's the same goes for rhinoplasty, the doctor is aiming for natural result appearance with personal adjustment, some clinics prefer and offer aggressive Pinocchio nose results, so in the end it's your personal taste involved here with which clinic you want to go with. Yes, HDC use microscopes to divide the grafts to groups, I posted on our Instagram page a video demonstration, also as I said earlier, this time I personally documented @Jackziv2nd procedure which you will see how the staff cleaned the grafts and divide them to single grafts under microscopes, I will edit then upload it.

@_Hairman_HDC use single grafts for the 3cm hairline for natural result, therefore if you notice on my 1st experience with Dr. Maras threads, you can see our doctors doing punch with more density with single grafts which demands a lot of skill to achieve high density compare to double and triple grafts density, in some cases we may offer\consider to put some double grafts over the 3rd upper line cm for more "aggressive" hairline, but not the first 2cm, also not all single grafts are the same, some single grafts at the edge of the donor are thinner compare to other single grafts, the thinner single grafts will be transplanted first and gradually backwards with the thicker ones. 2nd reason HDC choose to do this, is to save double and triple grafts for the middle scalp and crown, especially for crown procedures that recommend to have double and triple grafts for high density. Unfortunately because I was botched in Turkey, many of my triple grafts were killed for nothing, I see some paitents that for a short period happy with exaggerated double & triples grafts hairline, then after while they realize it's not natural and the biggest problem is when they loose more natural hair at the middle and crown, they don't have enough double and triple grafts to have density proportions compare to the frontal area, I get many complaints about this with paitents that had a procedure by hair mills post 3-4 years result, a good clinic will always make a future strategy for the paitent in my opinion. HDC do have microscopic scanner for that matter, I myself was diagnosed few times when Dr. Maras wanted to see location and quality of my grafts. Here is video explanation of why we should save double and triple grafts

@Gatsbythanks, I kinda thinking to stay with the buzz cut.

@Melvin- Moderator thanks! First time I feel good with shaved head with full confidence 😎

For those who want to read on my 1st experience with HDC and 1st clinic, please check these 2 threads:

Hello everyone I posted yesterday my new thread about my 2nd HT experience I had with Dr. Maras at HDC clinic almost 2 weeks ago and I did a lot of documentation, on this photo I wanted to show how I looked after the punch procedure by Dr. Maras and by Arenamed hair mill (1st HT), to have multiple HT procedures the donor area must be preserved professionally without being overharvested. I am after my 3rd HT FUE procedure and I can have more procedures in the future, here you can read about my new experience

Hi @Scotchthanks, that depends on my recovery, after a procedure some of the roots that were punched can survive and renew themselves to a complete healthy follicular with new hair growth, especially if it's done properly by professionals, at HDC clinic we usually estimate for the paitents that if they'll need another procedure the clinic will minimum 70% grafts that were taken from previous procedure. My case is different, my donor was good and healthy above the average with high amount,though my hair is thinner than the average, the clinic said if I would come to HDC on the first time, they could punch 4000+ grafts on the 1st session, so Dr. Maras and the team take conservative approach, I actually was surprised in the good way I hoped for 2000 grafts, but they punched 2500+ with much higher amount of double grafts that I thought I will have, it all depends on my recovery, I assume if I will have another session I could get around 2000 grafts, for my lower part of the crown I'll probably would need more 1000-1500 grafts, usually hair mills just throw big number, but in my case I wish 5k was a lie with the first hair mill in Turkey, take a look on my first experience threads and see how they brutally punched me. Punch heads and punch sizes are various for every paitent's type of hair and type of skin, it's individual, unlike hair mills that don't do this customization.

Enjoy @Parasol, you look great, really glad we could make make you happy, always here for any need! I know the feeling of be 100% and not afraid from the wind anymore 😉