Senior Member MachoVato Posted August 5, 2021 Senior Member Share Posted August 5, 2021 2 hours ago, Hrnzaire said: ~~UPDATE~~~~ I am currently at Dr Bisanga’s clinic. The procedure started at around 7.30am today. i went in, was given some scrubs and then it all started. I was super nervous and expected the worst (in terms of pain). But OMG, i don’t know if i have a high pain tolerance but on a scale of 0-10, 10 being extreme pain I’d say the injections were 0.5. maybe Dr Bisanga’s technique is super. im on my lunch break but will update you tomorrow with some pictures and detailed breakdown I'll be there in 5 days. Can I ask how many people are in their office? I was planning to bring some small treats from Texas. I want to make sure I bring enough for them all to enjoy. HLC Ankara | 4261 Grafts | Nov 7, 2020 (Hairline) Dr. Bisanga, BHR Clinic in Brussels | 1528 Grafts | Aug 12, 2021 (Crown and Temples) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Hrnzaire Posted August 5, 2021 Author Regular Member Share Posted August 5, 2021 9 minutes ago, MachoVato said: I'll be there in 5 days. Can I ask how many people are in their office? I was planning to bring some small treats from Texas. I want to make sure I bring enough for them all to enjoy. I’d say there’s about 10 staff right now 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member deeznuts Posted August 5, 2021 Senior Member Share Posted August 5, 2021 5GBP per graft is too much lol. That's probably more than you'll pay anywhere else in continental Europe and continental Europe has some really good doctors. Good choice on going to Dr. Bisanga imo. I kinda understand though why Dr. Arshad might raise the price. Usually difficult surgeries get a price bump (i.e. HIV, repairs, etc). Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member MachoVato Posted August 5, 2021 Senior Member Share Posted August 5, 2021 Yeah, Bisanga is about 5 Euro (including 21% Belgian VAT). 1 HLC Ankara | 4261 Grafts | Nov 7, 2020 (Hairline) Dr. Bisanga, BHR Clinic in Brussels | 1528 Grafts | Aug 12, 2021 (Crown and Temples) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted August 5, 2021 Administrators Share Posted August 5, 2021 3 hours ago, Hrnzaire said: ~~UPDATE~~~~ I am currently at Dr Bisanga’s clinic. The procedure started at around 7.30am today. i went in, was given some scrubs and then it all started. I was super nervous and expected the worst (in terms of pain). But OMG, i don’t know if i have a high pain tolerance but on a scale of 0-10, 10 being extreme pain I’d say the injections were 0.5. maybe Dr Bisanga’s technique is super. im on my lunch break but will update you tomorrow with some pictures and detailed breakdown Congratulations 🎉 can’t wait to see more updates. I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Hrnzaire Posted August 6, 2021 Author Regular Member Share Posted August 6, 2021 (edited) I don’t know how to edit and add to my original post so I’ll put my update here. I arrived in Belgium and the clinic arranged for a driver to pick me up. The driver took me to my hotel (2 minutes walk from the clinic) and then to the clinic. Everyone at the clinic was super nice and friendly! During the consultation, Dr Bisanga and the team measured the density of my hair and drew on my hairline. My hair density was 60 and Dr Bisanga said this was normal for curly afro hair as the curl pattern gives the illusion of thick hair. After the consultation I had my blood drawn and then went back to the hotel surgery day i arrived at 7.30, had my temperature taken and then was invited to the surgery room where i was given scrubs to put on. Immediately after putting on the scrubs, I sat on the surgery table/chair and Dr Bisanga came. He proceeded to shave the donor region and applied the local anaesthesia. I was mentally prepared for absolute pain but honestly, it was fine. The pain level to me was very very low and i was surprised. Maybe it was the Valium they gave me lol. After the anaesthetic kicked in, they started to remove the tissue and i felt no pain. Once the tissue was removed Dr Bisanga stitched me up and prepared the front part of my head. The local anaesthesia there was a little bit more uncomfortable but not painful. Whilst this was happening many technicians were extracting the grafts at the bench. I think the tissue was taken in 3 parts and this allowed multiple people to extract the grafts. Dr Bisanga himself punched the holes but. Honestly I swear I saw high off the Valium and was having wavey dreams. The procedure went very smoothly, so smoothly i slept for like 90% of it. The last hour and half thought were the toughest. I felt more sore/pain from the donor region and was given local anaesthesic the first time but the region was so raw that it was very painful. So the second time i felt pain, I just firmed it! They did give me paracetamol to help relieve it, I don’t know if it helped. But even then guys, the pain was a 5 and was bearable. The last hour and a half was the hardest because i was physically/mentally drained and was ready to go home (i can’t explain it but i was over it lol). The surgery took 12 hours (with breaks etc) Hair information grafts:3211 technique: FUT 1 follicular unit: 713 grafts 2 follicular unit: 1844 grafts 3 follicular unit: 641 grafts 4 follicular unit: 13 grafts After the surgery, I had my consultation with Hilde and was given the pos-op care instructions, medicines etc. HAIR BEFORE FUT PHOTOS A FEW HOURS AFTER SURGERY Edited August 6, 2021 by Hrnzaire 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member HMSDread Posted August 7, 2021 Regular Member Share Posted August 7, 2021 On 8/6/2021 at 8:38 AM, Hrnzaire said: Honestly I swear I saw high off the Valium and was having wavey dreams. Ha, same experience here. My surgery took about the same amount of time as you, but I cannot remember much of the day between getting into the scrubs and going back to the hotel! Good write up! 👍🏻 Happy growing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Hrnzaire Posted August 21, 2021 Author Regular Member Share Posted August 21, 2021 (edited) ~~ 2 weeks, 2 days update ~~ I started washing the grafted area with the two shampoos Dr Bisanga provided and applied the Serum 3x a day as instructed from day 8. This really helped the scabs fall off. On day 10-14, i washed the grafts twice a day and by day 13, i barely had any scabs left. The scabs were very small and white and kinda gooey to touch, I think it’s because I kept them hydrated using the serum and this made it easier for them to fall off. I had my stitches removed on Wednesday at my local GP by a nurse and my doctor supervised. I don’t think I have experienced any shedding yet. The recipient area looks a little spiky with all the little hairs. I experienced some weird sharp and very short lived electricity like feeling. It wasn’t painful just odd, but i think this was the nerves repairing? I don’t know. They happened from around day 5 to day 14. I haven’t experienced them since. I did end up cutting my hair with scissors on day 10. My afro was badly tangled after the procedure and I just couldn’t be asked to deal with it. I will most likely shave my head on month 2 so that I have a more uniformed hair length. I am currently wearing headscarves to work meetings (thank goodness for work from home) and I make them look cute and now wear make-up, earnings etc so that I don’t look sloppy to my clients. I’m not saying headscarves are sloppy but I’m conscious that my new look will come as a surprise as I used to wear really great wigs that passed for my hair. although i can wear wigs later down the line, I have opted not to. When i got my stitches removed, the nurse and doctor noted that my skin had slightly healed over the knot so when they removed it, i bled a little, hence the steristrip on my head. The small white dots are the “freed” scabs that are stubbornly attached to my hair. No amount of washing will remove them, they just relocate 😂 Here is a photo of the donor area after the stitches were removed. The scabs have been coming off nicely since then too. I think the flash made my hair look white-ish here. Edited August 21, 2021 by Hrnzaire 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Britanium Posted August 21, 2021 Senior Member Share Posted August 21, 2021 Coming along really nicely ! That FUT Scar is going to end up basically invisible. Thanks for sharing a detailed update 👌 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lego1993 Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 (edited) On 8/6/2021 at 8:38 AM, Hrnzaire said: I don’t know how to edit and add to my original post so I’ll put my update here. I arrived in Belgium and the clinic arranged for a driver to pick me up. The driver took me to my hotel (2 minutes walk from the clinic) and then to the clinic. Everyone at the clinic was super nice and friendly! During the consultation, Dr Bisanga and the team measured the density of my hair and drew on my hairline. My hair density was 60 and Dr Bisanga said this was normal for curly afro hair as the curl pattern gives the illusion of thick hair. After the consultation I had my blood drawn and then went back to the hotel surgery day i arrived at 7.30, had my temperature taken and then was invited to the surgery room where i was given scrubs to put on. Immediately after putting on the scrubs, I sat on the surgery table/chair and Dr Bisanga came. He proceeded to shave the donor region and applied the local anaesthesia. I was mentally prepared for absolute pain but honestly, it was fine. The pain level to me was very very low and i was surprised. Maybe it was the Valium they gave me lol. After the anaesthetic kicked in, they started to remove the tissue and i felt no pain. Once the tissue was removed Dr Bisanga stitched me up and prepared the front part of my head. The local anaesthesia there was a little bit more uncomfortable but not painful. Whilst this was happening many technicians were extracting the grafts at the bench. I think the tissue was taken in 3 parts and this allowed multiple people to extract the grafts. Dr Bisanga himself punched the holes but. Honestly I swear I saw high off the Valium and was having wavey dreams. The procedure went very smoothly, so smoothly i slept for like 90% of it. The last hour and half thought were the toughest. I felt more sore/pain from the donor region and was given local anaesthesic the first time but the region was so raw that it was very painful. So the second time i felt pain, I just firmed it! They did give me paracetamol to help relieve it, I don’t know if it helped. But even then guys, the pain was a 5 and was bearable. The last hour and a half was the hardest because i was physically/mentally drained and was ready to go home (i can’t explain it but i was over it lol). The surgery took 12 hours (with breaks etc) Hair information grafts:3211 technique: FUT 1 follicular unit: 713 grafts 2 follicular unit: 1844 grafts 3 follicular unit: 641 grafts 4 follicular unit: 13 grafts After the surgery, I had my consultation with Hilde and was given the pos-op care instructions, medicines etc. HAIR BEFORE FUT PHOTOS A FEW HOURS AFTER SURGERY Hello Do you mind sharing the cost of your procedure? Also is there a reason you opted for an FUT over the FUE method? Best regards, Lego Edited August 30, 2021 by Lego1993 Spelling correction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valued Contributor Gatsby Posted August 30, 2021 Valued Contributor Share Posted August 30, 2021 So very happy for you. That scar is going to be like trying to find a needle in a hay stack! All the best and I look forward to following your journey. Thanks for sharing. 2 GATSBY 'UNPLUGGED!' 15,671 (3 surgeries) Grafts FUE+BHT Dr. Sethi Eugenix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Hrnzaire Posted October 7, 2021 Author Regular Member Share Posted October 7, 2021 ~~~~2 month update~~~ Here is a close up of the area. One side seems to be growing faster than the other. My recovery in terms of discomfort took longer than expected. I had a weird sensation for about 6-7 weeks post surgery and my head felt squishy and tender. I can now sleep properly and comfortably. I have returned to the gym but I’m avoiding heavier weights. I wear headscarves when out and about because of the scar and wigs for work. I can’t wait for my hair to grow out so that i can rock my afro again! I have 2.5mg oral minoxidil but I haven’t started taking them. I wanted to wait a while after my second COVID vaccine. I’m still a bit nervous/reluctant to take them. Right side Left side 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted October 7, 2021 Administrators Share Posted October 7, 2021 Have you tried topical minoxidil? Everything looks right on track. I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Britanium Posted October 7, 2021 Senior Member Share Posted October 7, 2021 Your edging closer to being over the worst part ! Another month or so and you will start to see some growth 👍🏽 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Britanium Posted October 7, 2021 Senior Member Share Posted October 7, 2021 Oh and thanks for updating us 🙏 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Hrnzaire Posted October 7, 2021 Author Regular Member Share Posted October 7, 2021 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Melvin- Moderator said: Have you tried topical minoxidil? Everything looks right on track. Thank you! I haven’t no. I’m going to look up black woman’s experience with it though. Edited October 7, 2021 by Hrnzaire 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Hrnzaire Posted October 7, 2021 Author Regular Member Share Posted October 7, 2021 27 minutes ago, JohnAC71 said: Your edging closer to being over the worst part ! Another month or so and you will start to see some growth 👍🏽 27 minutes ago, JohnAC71 said: Oh and thanks for updating us 🙏 You’re welcome! I can’t wait for the ugly duckling phase to end. It’s been tough!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Britanium Posted October 7, 2021 Senior Member Share Posted October 7, 2021 4 minutes ago, Hrnzaire said: You’re welcome! I can’t wait for the ugly duckling phase to end. It’s been tough!! Your so close ! But as much as It’s possible for early growth to happen from month 3, it’s more usual a little later 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valued Contributor Gatsby Posted October 8, 2021 Valued Contributor Share Posted October 8, 2021 Your patience will be well rewarded. You couldn't have gone to a better surgeon for Afrocentric hair. I look forward to your future updates. All the best! GATSBY 'UNPLUGGED!' 15,671 (3 surgeries) Grafts FUE+BHT Dr. Sethi Eugenix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted October 8, 2021 Administrators Share Posted October 8, 2021 3 hours ago, Hrnzaire said: Thank you! I haven’t no. I’m going to look up black woman’s experience with it though. You may want to try castor oil, I’ve heard some good things about it specifically for Afro hair and women. Check it out. I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cainhurst73 Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 I am also interested in getting FUT with Dr Bis in Belgium but I am not vaccinated. Is is still possible to get into the country from the UK? I'm a little confused, did you quarantine for 10 days on arrival and then go to clinic on the 11th day? If not, when does the quarantine start, after the operation? I read that you need a specific reason that falls under Belgium restriction laws. I can't wait to see your progress and wish you a fast recovery and healing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Hrnzaire Posted October 10, 2021 Author Regular Member Share Posted October 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Cainhurst73 said: I am also interested in getting FUT with Dr Bis in Belgium but I am not vaccinated. Is is still possible to get into the country from the UK? I'm a little confused, did you quarantine for 10 days on arrival and then go to clinic on the 11th day? If not, when does the quarantine start, after the operation? I read that you need a specific reason that falls under Belgium restriction laws. I can't wait to see your progress and wish you a fast recovery and healing Hi, I did quarantine yes, but after my procedure. I arrived the evening before my procedure (Aug 4) as it was booked for 7:30 AM on Aug 5. I also paid for the same day PCR test. I have family in Brussels and timed my surgery with a family wedding. The Belgium gov website states that there exceptions and this included a family weddings. You can obtain a travel document by emailing the Belgium embassy and providing evidence. They take forever to get back to you so if you’re keen to go to Belgium I would email them before booking and paying your deposit. I would also suggest you speak to one of Dr Bisanga’s consultants. here’s the link to the embassy with all the travel information. https://www.info-coronavirus.be/en/countries-with-high-risk/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Hrnzaire Posted October 10, 2021 Author Regular Member Share Posted October 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Cainhurst73 said: I am also interested in getting FUT with Dr Bis in Belgium but I am not vaccinated. Is is still possible to get into the country from the UK? I'm a little confused, did you quarantine for 10 days on arrival and then go to clinic on the 11th day? If not, when does the quarantine start, after the operation? I read that you need a specific reason that falls under Belgium restriction laws. I can't wait to see your progress and wish you a fast recovery and healing I forgot to add that. If you still can’t travel to Belgium. Dr Bisanga has a clinic in Athens which he travels to occasionally. When I was in the process of booking my procedure, I also enquired about Athens and I was told that he was going to be there in October but the dates had not been confirmed. May be worth a shot if Uk travel to Athens isn’t as restricted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cainhurst73 Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 Thanks so much for the information. I will send photos this week and find out more. To give me an idea on price, I think I would need 4000 and up, are you able to reveal the amount of grafts and the cost? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Hrnzaire Posted October 10, 2021 Author Regular Member Share Posted October 10, 2021 18 minutes ago, Cainhurst73 said: Thanks so much for the information. I will send photos this week and find out more. To give me an idea on price, I think I would need 4000 and up, are you able to reveal the amount of grafts and the cost? You’re welcome. I got ~3000 grafts. The price will depend on the number of grafts and technique (FUT/FUE) and texture (afro or straight). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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