Doctor Cinik Hair Transplant Clinic 3375 grafts FUE - 2300 (head)+ 1000 (beard)+ 75 (chest)

[Britanium]

I think that’s a wise move to see a dermatologist. I agree it was looking much better at 6/7 months out than it is now. And they did not grow back for you as we all hoped. Sorry your in this position now. 

[ITA]

15 minutes ago, jc80220 said:

Sorry you're disappointed so far, Egy.

For what it's worth, I've seen many photo's of bad transplants, and I definitely wouldn't say yours was one. I agree with what others have said, I believe you're being too harsh on yourself.

Have you thought about cutting your hair a bit shorter? I think it would look even better.

@jc80220I was happy until the eighth month, the grafts had all regrown, it was a more than successful transplant until then, then the total decline.  I tried to shorten them, but it's worse, with the length I can cover the gaps.

[ITA]

8 minutes ago, JohnAC71 said:

 

I think that’s a wise move to see a dermatologist. I agree it was looking much better at 6/7 months out than it is now. And they did not grow back for you as we all hoped. Sorry your in this position now. 

 

@JohnAC71yes, as soon as I have the chance I will do it, but a dermatologist is not enough, but a specialist in trichology.  Thank you

[Britanium]

Yes one that specialises in trichology definitely is the way to go, I would be doing exactly the same. Be really interesting to see what they say. 

[jolly]

On 10/9/2020 at 12:49 AM, Egy said:

@jc80220I was happy until the eighth month, the grafts had all regrown, it was a more than successful transplant until then, then the total decline.  I tried to shorten them, but it's worse, with the length I can cover the gaps.

i fully agree with you ..... if you read my thread few years back .... i had written about the same things that im loosing transplanted hair after  15 months , and even mine was full bloom at months 8 - 12 , after that they started falling out ,,.... but no one agreed , im  glad you agree with the same thought , and why i'm 100 percent sure if its my transplanted hair ? ... well the area from where i lost density after 15 months was slick bald so its obvious only transplanted hair had to fall as there were no native hair in that area to begin with ..... i am also a believer that the recipient area does have any influence on the donor hair and the DHT kills it .

[DThak]

Any news on this Egy? 

 

I've had a similar result. Was looking 7-9 months but noticed a few hairs daily on comb. Went to get it cut before barbers shut for lockdown and noticed patches missing.

 

What did Cinik say in the end?

[ITA]

Hi @DThak

I had a scalp biopsy on October 29th, but bad luck haunts me because the dermatologist who performed it had to close his office because he tested positive for Covid 19 and therefore I have not yet the result.  As soon as I receive the result, I will update you and send the result to the clinic as well.

[deitel130]

@Egy your results still look better than where you started. Don't be so hard on yourself. There may be some shedding but also some later pics are under very harsh sunlight. Do you have pics of where the extraction was from? Any pics of where the hair was transplanted. Could be that they tried to cover a lot of area and you just need another pass. Don't be discouraged it's not that bad.

[ITA]

Hi @deitel130 

I have no other pics than  those I posted on my thread, certainly something I recovered after the eighth and ninth month, a period in which I lost so many, including transplants, but still I am sure that I lose so much hair in that period  post transplant, it is not normal.  I will be sure, as soon as I receive the biopsy results, and if they tell me that I have some scalp problem, I will not take any further steps, because it will only be a waste of time and money.  We will see, everything will depend on the outcome of the biopsy.

[ITA]

Hi everyone,

I finally got my biopsy response, but unfortunately, I'm even more confused than before.  My scalp is not affected by lichen pilapilaris, nor by a rare form of it, namely frontal fibrosis.  The diagnosis is as follows (I translate it with the Google translator, so I hope it keeps the same meaning):

“The histological sections under examination show a form of NON-SCARRING ALOPECIA, with a number of hair follicles within the normal limits. 
Is present situation of phlogosis chronic non-specific without waiting of aggression towards the hair follicles”

The dermatologist (who is not the one who studied and issued the report, but the one who made the incision and then sent it to the other dermatologist) says that it could be a problem due to the scars resulting from the procedure, which however sometimes take  up to 3 years to heal completely, but I don't even think it can be the latter, the problem.

[deitel130]

So the Dermatologist has confirmed you have no issue with scarring which is good news. But I guess it doesn't answer your question as to why the hair loss. You should go back to the surgeon's clinic with this report and see what they say.

[ITA]

@deitel130I sent the report to the clinic through the consultant, he told me that he has already sent it to the doctor and he will let me know.  At this point I have my own idea, and that is that with the withdrawals, they went a little too high, that is, in the non-safe area, also because I have not lost all the transplanted hair, perhaps precisely those taken from that area, otherwise  I just don't know what to think.

[deitel130]

It's possible. But given that you have had your scalp tested I'm sure they will work out something to help with the situation. Keep up posted on how things go. 

[Britanium]

Man so sorry you still haven’t a clear answer to what happened with your ht. 

[ITA]

Hi, 

I want to update my thread with a couple of freshly taken pictures.  15 months have passed since my second procedure in Cinik's clinic and unfortunately the situation deteriorated by the eighth month and has not improved.  The thing that particularly disappointed me is that the clinic, although I sent him the biopsy report, which shows that my scalp is not affected by any lichen planopilaris or anything else, hasn't contacted me anymore.

I would like to point out that the photos were taken, yes, in front of a window, but in any case not in direct sunlight, indoors, therefore they do not highlight the defects to the maximum, that is, they are a bit better than reality.

Edited January 21, 2021 by Egy

[Britanium]

Thanks for updating with recent pics. What are your plans going forward? 

[ITA]

@JohnAC71, for now I have no idea.

[deitel130]

The hairline and front looks really good. Front the front nobody would guess you have thinning. I wonder if the scalp grafts were used in the front and beard grafts behind it. Is it possible the beard grafts didn't survive? Did you reach out to the clinic again? 

[ITA]

I don't know what to answer @deitel130 I can also think, at this point, that the fallen grafts are those taken from the non-safe area, however, as I wrote before, the photos make the situation look better, but it is really one  crap.  Yes, I contacted the clinic through their consultant, I sent him the biopsy report, he told me that he would speak with Cinik, this happened about a month ago, but since then, I have not heard from him again  .

[Melvin- Admin]

1 hour ago, deitel130 said:

The hairline and front looks really good. Front the front nobody would guess you have thinning. I wonder if the scalp grafts were used in the front and beard grafts behind it. Is it possible the beard grafts didn't survive? Did you reach out to the clinic again? 

You know this makes sense. Beard hair has a different life cycle than scalp hair. It could be that’s why it grew in quickly and vanished. Very interesting case. I’ve yet to see something like it. That said, the front looks excellent.  Definitely not a failure.

[deitel130]

Are you still on Finasteride? 

Curious to know what role Finasteride or Dutasteride plays in terms of non scalp hair since it lowers DHT. 

[ITA]

I have never stopped taking finasteride, multivitamins, biotin, or minoxidil.

[ITA]

I want to inform you that this morning I had an interview via whatsapp with the consultant of the clinic (who is a very helpful person), he told me that he will sit down with the doctor again to discuss my situation.  This, for proper and appropriate knowledge to all members of the forum.  Thanks

[Britanium]

That’s good to hear @Egy🙏

[ITA]

UPDATE: 
 It seems right to me, for my part, to have to write something about my experience with Dr. Cinik's Clinic today, 04 August 2021.  As for my hair situation, unfortunately things have not improved, but after many months, from the last contact I had with the clinic (and this was recognized as a negative thing, even on their part) the consultant contacted me yesterday to ask me what the current situation is like.  After I sent the photos and communicated my disappointment to him, the consultant scheduled a video call for this morning.  Well, I have to "break a lance" in favor of the clinic, because it proved to be very helpful (I repeat, even if it took a long time), the consultant told me that the doctor does not explain why my transplant had a this involution, but he made himself available to any of my requests, 1) a completely free procedure, 2) even a refund, I think not total but that I could have quantified.  I refused both the new procedure and the partial amount, I don't feel like facing another post transplant, with the fear that after 7/8 months the hair may fall out again.  This is what I feel compelled to let all forum members know.