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My hair transplant FUE 3800 Graft dec 2014 with Dr. Koray Erdogan at ASMED, Istanbul


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Hello Everyone

 

 

35 Year old Male from India with 3V diffuse thinning.

 

 

Had my 2nd hair transplant FUE 3800 Grafts dec 2014 at ASMED, Istanbul with Dr. Koray Erdogan

 

 

 

 

 

Since I was not Happy with my 1st HT results from other clinic so I have repeated the procedure to same areas to add density.

 

 

For Brief details about my 1st Hair Transplant at other clinic in India in dec 2012 you can check my Thread link below:-

 

 

http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/169007-fue-hair-transplant-dr-prabdeep-sohi-reviva-clinic-chandigarh-india.html

 

 

 

2nd HT Journey:-

 

I had an online consultation first and had an opportunity to visit Istanbul so I also had a personal Consultation as well in june 2014 with Dr Koray (Also Dr Hakan in Antalya)

 

 

The Asmed clinic (mini hospital) looked very posh and busy and Dr Koray was very helpful in clearing my doubts and queries on my personal consultation.

 

 

 

Sevinj my Interpreter was very helpful throughout in my email / personal consultation and Final surgery.

 

 

Dr Koray speaks English very well. But for communication with the Staff & technicians Sevinj was always around.

 

 

After returning back to India I booked for my HT for 29th December 2014 with deposit of 1000 Euro.

 

Reached Istanbul on 26th dec Morning. Stayed in Radisson blu which was booked by the clinic , being close to the clinic they have a contract with them to provide discounted price for first 5 days to their patients (80 Euro/night including breakfast), cheaper than booking online yourself as It was 120 Euro/night including breakfast).

 

 

Same day afternoon went to the clinic for shaving my hair, deciding/marking hairline, photo session and blood samples for tests & PRP Treatment. Dr koray starts surgery early morning and prefer this pre-op rituals 1 day before.

 

 

Since the clinic is closed on weekends so I had to go through this process on 26th dec i.e Friday and wait in the hotel for my surgery on Monday (So Avoid Mondays if you don’t want to reach there early:))

 

 

Since I was shaved and marked on Friday I used a Cap till Monday to roam around beautiful Istanbul.

 

 

The Clinic also provides you with their custom Hat, in my case I already brought many with me, since I knew the drill being my 2nd HT.

 

Day 1:-

 

 

I was picked by Clinic transfer service 7:00 AM (Transfer charges 30 Euro) along with 3 other Patients staying in the same hotel. So we were total 4 person having HT in the same day. I had a concern about it throughout that how this was to be pulled off having 4 surgeries with average 2000 grafts in a day/person coming to 8000 grafts in a day/person.

 

Reached the clinic, greeted well and immediately changed clothes and checked for re-shave any hairs slightly grown in 2 days. Test reports were checked and approved for further movement to the surgery room downstairs where i got 1 locker to keep my clothes and I also chose 1 movie to be seen at the time of surgery.

 

 

I realized that the clinic has 4 surgery rooms downstairs, so 4 patients per day is routine. They have enough techs n staff for this.

 

 

First Day was dedicated to hairline area and Crown for Second day.

 

 

I must confess here that after slight concern realizing 4 patients per day and how it will be pulled off with good quality work, I got introduced to another concern when the surgery was started with graft extraction by techs and without presence of Dr Koray. Then I realized that the extractions are done by the techs and not by Dr Koray.

 

 

Dr Koray only performs Incisions.

 

 

 

Techs do extractions & implantation.

 

 

Dr Koray did come in between to extract 80 odd grafts and went, same with other 3 patients. I think this was primarily for 2 reasons,

 

 

 

(1) To keep himself in the practice of extraction, and/or

(2) To make patients feel comfortable showing his presence.

 

 

I am sure that the clinic hires highly skilled Techs only and as long as my HT turns out satisfactory I have no issues with this, but since I have gone through one average HT in the past so this will keep me slightly concerned until 8-12 months post op.

 

After 4 hours of extraction, we had a lunch break and post lunch we started with the incision part with Dr Koray and final implantation with the techs.

 

 

We finished Day 1 around 4 p.m and all 4 were transferred to the Hotel.

 

 

We were provided with Pain killer medicine (which I did not require) & Neck support pillows to avoid direct contact of the head to anything which disturbs/dislocate the new grafts while sleeping. It was still not comfortable though, so I preferring sleeping without it with caution.

 

Day 2:-

 

This day was dedicated for crown area and Side Bridge joining crown to hairline.

 

 

The process was same as Day 1, only addition was that PRP was injected this day.

 

We ended the day around 5 a.m and after photo session we went to the hotel.

 

Day:-3

 

We were again picked up in the morning for head wash and were provided with the shampoo & cream KIT for head wash for next 10 days. Also with the documents showing the hair/graft bifurcation, picture of it uploaded in this thread.

 

 

I pre-planned my stay for 10 days considering face swelling will take 7 days to subsidize, so I stayed back in the hotel. Had another head wash at the clinic on 7th day post HT and then return back to my country.

 

I have been advised to start finasteride if not regularly than atleast 12 months post op.

 

 

I had side effects 3 years back when I used Finpecia (product of Cipla) for 3-4 months and had to quit, the side effect took 8 months to go out of my system.

 

 

So I am not sure about it. Though I have started taking 1mg per day now, will see how much time I will continue before I give up.

 

 

Future expectation:-

 

 

Since i have used most of my donor hairs, so i am mentally prepared for having another 5000 grafts HT in future.May be 1000 scalp + 4000 body grafts.

 

 

I have thick body hairs so am i positive for covering full area of my head with it.

 

 

When i may opt for my 3rd HT shall depend on whether i continue with finasteride or not after 1 year and also till how much time i feel comfortable using Toppik (if i have to use it ;))

 

 

 

 

 

Question:-

 

 

I am having hard time finding an online site which deliver Propecia to India as most of them says worldwide delivery but at the payment process do not show India as an option.

 

 

If anyone has a clue than let me know.I bought 1 month pack of propecia from the Asmed clinic, now i have locally bought Finpecia (product of Cipla) and using it.

 

 

 

Thanks.

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wow 3800 for that small a area ..... think its too Much !!

 

Small area? Not small at all imo. 1750 in frontal hairline, 1000 in mid left area behind temple, rest in crown.

 

To OP looks clean & nice work.

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1) I think we ended up doing approx 1450 grafts in front, 850 at mid left & 1500 grafts at crown.Coz on first day 1800 grafts session was done and we ended covering hairline & some area of mid left as well.

 

2) Approx 100 sq. cm area was covered so 3800 grafts are not too much i guess.

 

Since i still have hairs in middle area so we decided to not to touch that part and improve it with meds.

 

3) I have kept my hairstyle side parted all my life so i wanted to fill/thicken the exposed area i.e mid left, in future i would prefer BHT anyway for the mid and mid right area.

 

Please note that 1 to 11 no. pics are with dry hairs and 12 to 22 no. pics are with wet hairs in harsh studio lighting. Wet hairs look more worse than dry hairs, i keep my hairs dry all the time so mid area still look ok to me at this stage, compare to other areas.

 

Hairline is the most important part of the face so i wanted to fill it perfectly well with scalp grafts only. Rest area i would not mind BHT in future in case i am out of scalp donor.

 

Crown was in the worst condition with hardly any hairs to improve with meds.

In routine life the crown bald patch stands out like anything even from distance, so it needed to be addressed immediately.

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attached pics.

 

Only issue i had was 70-80 odd pimples in my donor which really itched, i had a hard time with them till they went off by 30 day mark themselves with not extra care.

 

I initially though they are in-grown hairs which are making their way out, but the clinic confirmed that those are my transected hairs which are making their way out, i didnt experienced this at all in my first HT.

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Looks good there, jeets! strategic placement of grafts!

 

Zoomed through your previous HT in India! Some swelling under your eye in one of the pics.

 

How bad was it this time and when did it start and subsided? Did the ice pack and clinic suggestion help keep it at minimum?

 

Did you end up using ASMED hat or other?

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Looks good there, jeets! strategic placement of grafts!

 

Zoomed through your previous HT in India! Some swelling under your eye in one of the pics.

 

How bad was it this time and when did it start and subsided? Did the ice pack and clinic suggestion help keep it at minimum?

 

Did you end up using ASMED hat or other?

 

 

My first HT had too much swelling, the pic of 1 swelled eye was just the start, it wend more worse later.

 

Swelling started around day 3 and remained till day 7 post op.

 

The swelling part was the same for my both HT, i planned my visit accordingly for 10 days.The amount of swelling may vary due to various factors from patient to patient.

 

I saw most of the patients in the clinic preferred to move out back to their country on 2nd/3rd day of their surgery and preferred to reach home before swelling starts.But that is personal choice.

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Looks good there, jeets! strategic placement of grafts!

 

Zoomed through your previous HT in India! Some swelling under your eye in one of the pics.

 

How bad was it this time and when did it start and subsided? Did the ice pack and clinic suggestion help keep it at minimum?

 

Did you end up using ASMED hat or other?

 

 

My first HT had too much swelling, the pic of 1 swelled eye was just the start, it wend more worse later.

 

The swelling part was the same for my both HT, i planned my visit accordingly for 10 days.The amount of swelling may vary due to various factors from patient to patient.

 

Swelling started around day 3 and remained till day 7 post op.

Ice pack or meds may help to subsidize faster.We were not provided any meds for swelling by the clinic.Ice pack/gel was provided but i dont think it really helped much in my case.

 

I used their Hat only once while coming back to the hotel on 2nd day of HT from the clinic. I brought many with me so i used those.

 

I saw most of the patients in the clinic preferred to move out back to their country on 2nd/3rd day of their surgery and preferred to reach home before swelling starts.But that is personal choice.

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Jeet thanks for your feedback, I love Dr Koray work. How you finding the finasteride med, any side effects?

 

Please keep us updated on your growth.

 

 

I had side effects 3 years back when I used Finpecia (product of Cipla) for 3-4 months and had to quit, the side effect took 8 months to go out of my system.

 

 

So I am not sure about it. Though I have started taking 1mg per day now, will see how much time I will continue before I give up.Right now its only 1 month since i started.

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Hello Jeet

 

Any update on the results. I also had a transplant last year and not too happy with the results either. Is there any way I can contact you and discuss the current results. I am also planning for a second ht. Do let Me know if you read this message. Thanks

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sry i was not able to log in for a while.

Its 8.5 months since my 2 HT

 

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1) I quit Propecia at 4 month mark.So i am not using any tabs and since i use toppik all the time so i am not able to use minoxidil as well coz it creates mess while on toppik.

I know tabs and minoxidil helps sustain what you have got,but side effects which get from tabs are not worth.Any guidance/suggestion to cope with it will help.

 

2) Since these pics are with dry hairs, kindly compare with my previous pics with dry hairs only.

 

3) Crown still has visible thinning and my right side also have visible thinning (right side was not addressed in my 2nd HT) may be i have to go for another HT 100% body hairs approx 2000 grafts at crown area and 1500-2000 grafts in mid scalp (if my scalp donor allows).

 

Will decide after 12 month mark.

 

Some feedback will be appreciated.

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Is this what 1500 fue into crown looks like ? Were you advised that it would not give coverage and you would still have to use concealers or do you think there's is more thickening to come ? Also did you suffer any shockloss ?

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Hello Jeet

 

Thanks a lot for the update. The hair looks great from the front.

 

The crown is bit sparse but growth in crown area can be slow. Lets hope by the 12 month mark it should be filled.

 

Did you try consulting the doctor? What did he say about the growth?

 

 

Also since meds dont suit you you can probably try having saw pelmetto which is herbal and might help in reducing DHT and further thinning.

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