Regular Member thedude84 Posted March 2, 2014 Author Regular Member Share Posted March 2, 2014 Yes I agree! Dr kent h webb oklahoma City. Advanced hair restoration. $4500 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member thedude84 Posted March 2, 2014 Author Regular Member Share Posted March 2, 2014 Can there be legal action? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member hairthere Posted March 2, 2014 Senior Member Share Posted March 2, 2014 You're going to need at least 3k grafts (F.U.s or follicular units) to address that frontal area. This would establish a hairline and coverage behind it. You have very fine hair which makes things a bit tricky and requires a top surgeon. I'd say you're looking in the $10-14k range to fix this properly. Some surgeons might cut you a bit of break though considering your circumstances. I am the owner/operator of AHEAD INK a Scalp Micropigmentation Company in Fort Lee, New Jersey. www.aheadink.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member hairthere Posted March 2, 2014 Senior Member Share Posted March 2, 2014 Don't bother with legal action. He probably has a lawyer on retainer who will just drag this out until you get tired of showing up in court. I am the owner/operator of AHEAD INK a Scalp Micropigmentation Company in Fort Lee, New Jersey. www.aheadink.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member irishsailor Posted March 2, 2014 Senior Member Share Posted March 2, 2014 I'm sorry you received this excuse for a HT. It can be fixed, and like hair there says I would start consulting with reputable clinics. I had a botched ht a few yrs, but got repaired by dr feller. Hair Transplant Dr Feller Oct 2011 Hair Transplant Dr Lorenzo June 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member zealander Posted March 2, 2014 Regular Member Share Posted March 2, 2014 I feel for you "thedude84", I have the same problem that also needs to be rectified, but difference being my 3 operations were carried out in the early 1980's when unfortunately the beauty of what results you get today was not heard of, out of sight out of mind. In this day n age 2014, the people doing that type of surgery should have their licence removed to even practice in this field, I trust you can get that 4500 back so you can use it with a Restoration Hair Specialist with Ethics, integrity and principles. The plus side to this is there are Top Hair Surgeons who can rectify it as "Hairthere" shared and bring back your peace of mind. All the very best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member ThinJim Posted March 3, 2014 Regular Member Share Posted March 3, 2014 (edited) I'm shocked to be honest. I really cannot believe there are still places out there performing this kind of work. I really feel for you and hope you can find a way to fix this. This just goes to show how important it is to thoroughly do your research before jumping into things. Unfortunately once the damage has been done its a long way back. For the money you paid to have this done you could have travelled to Europe and had a top FUE procedure. Like others had said you do have options. Firstly I would try and get my money back from this joke of a doctor. From your photos it does not even look like 1500 grafts! Your best bet then is to present your situation to a reputable doctor on this forum and ask how best to proceed. I hope everything works out for you in the end, I really do.........but seeing this sort of thing really pisses me off! Edited March 3, 2014 by ThinJim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member thedude84 Posted March 3, 2014 Author Regular Member Share Posted March 3, 2014 I Agree How Can Spencer Get This Information? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member ThinJim Posted March 3, 2014 Regular Member Share Posted March 3, 2014 Sorry, I got my organisations mixed up. Spencer actually runs the IAHRS so he has nothing to do with this. So for anybody who read my earlier post I would like to retract it entirely and have deleted it. I did check out the ISHRS website though and this doctor is indeed recommended on there. Their mission statement reads; 'The International Society of Hair Restoration Surgery is the leading authority on hair loss treatment and restoration with more than 1,000 members throughout 60 countries worldwide. We are dedicated to promoting the highest standards of medical practice and medical ethics. The ISHRS also provides continuing education to hair transplant doctors specializing in hair restoration surgery and is committed to providing the latest information on medical and surgical treatments for hair loss to the general public' The mission of the International Society of Hair Restoration Surgery is to achieve excellence in patient outcomes by promoting member education, international collegiality, research, ethics, and public awareness. The vision is to establish the ISHRS as the leading unbiased authority in hair restoration surgery. Hmmmm.......I think maybe they need to see this thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member thedude84 Posted March 3, 2014 Author Regular Member Share Posted March 3, 2014 I had a hair transplant performed at advanced hair restoration in Oklahoma City by dr. Kent webb. Here are my results... Am I going to look worse than before? Will I have to wait it out a year before it can be fixed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member hsrp10 Posted March 3, 2014 Senior Member Share Posted March 3, 2014 how many months post-op? go dense or go home Unbiased advice and opinions based on 25 plus years of researching and actual experience with hair loss, hair restoration via both FUT & FUE, SMP, scalp issues including scalp eczema & seborrheic dermatitis and many others HSRP10's favorite FUT surgeons: *Dr. Konior, *Dr Hasson, Dr. Rahal HSRP10's favorite FUE surgeons: *Dr. Konior, *Dr. Bisanga, Dr. Erdogan, Dr. Couto (*indicates actual experience with doctor) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Noodles123 Posted March 3, 2014 Senior Member Share Posted March 3, 2014 (edited) Wow man..... You seriously did your due diligence on this? So many things wrong with this whole thing. The RN did this transplant? Is this even legal considering anytime an incision is made it is considered a surgical procedure and must be carried out by a doctor? I don't want to make you feel worse, but honestly this is simply archaic, and I am shocked that kind of hair transplantation still exists. You really need to document this well, because this is beyond the pale. Legally, they will probably do everything to stonewall you. There may be some hope to get your money back though. I do recall another dude on here who got a terrible transplant and showed the documentation of the bad procedure to his credit card company, and he got his money back. There may be a way to fight this charge if a credit card was used. If anything, this serves to remind newbies that even if you think you've done your due diligence, a little bit more research can't hurt. As much as it's marketed as a non-invasive procedure nowadays, this is still real surgery folks! Edited March 3, 2014 by blahblah1982 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member StaggerLee123 Posted March 3, 2014 Senior Member Share Posted March 3, 2014 From your pics it is hard to tell if any of the scabs have already fallen off. It does look like your grafts are not very close together but again it's tough to say for sure. Your forehead looks swollen so I'm guessing this is 2-5 days after surgery? Do you have any immediate post op pics? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member tacolinowest Posted March 3, 2014 Senior Member Share Posted March 3, 2014 i can only imagine the anxiety going on in your head right now, stay strong you WILL get this fixed, if you dont mind me asking how long did it take them to do this? i feel like i could count the grafts by eye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member agenteye Posted March 3, 2014 Senior Member Share Posted March 3, 2014 thedude, I really empathize with you right now!! I have honestly never personally seen post-op pics like yours except from photos from restorations from the 90s…..not to stress you out anymore. The good news is, everyone here is right in saying that it's really fixable. It's a terrific thing that you only went with 1500 (if he even used that many) and not the 2000 as previously mentioned. That leaves you with some much needed grafts to use on your correction surgery. Unfortunately, because he is not a recommended surgeon on these forums….it is unlikely that the moderators can contact the surgeon on your behalf and try to bring this case to justice. Have you thought about calling the clinic and expressing your concerns?! Again….probably not cause to worry yet……you should wait until your hair starts growing in and seeing what you're up against before you stress out too much!! Definitely do your research on IAHRS recommended surgeons going forward. And again….if you're already this worried about the result….I'd contact the clinic and ask to speak to your surgeon and see what he has to say about it. I certainly would want to if it was me. I hope the best for you and good growth!! You came to the right forums for support, and everyone here is also hoping the best for you!! Keep us posted! Best, Mike 4737 FUT with Dr. Rahal on 11/16/2012 Daily regimen: 1/4 Proscar (1.25 mg Finasteride), Rogaine Foam (twice daily), 1000 mcg Biotin, 1 combo Vitamin D/Calcium/Magnesium, 1500 mg Glocosamine, 750 mg MSM, 1200 mg Fish Oil, 2000 mg Vitamin C, Super B-Complex, 400 I.U Vitamin E. I am not a medical professional. All views and opinions expressed in this forum are of my own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member TommyLucchese Posted March 3, 2014 Senior Member Share Posted March 3, 2014 Had you found this website before choosing this doctor? 2,000 grafts FUT Dr. Feller, July 27th 2012. 23 years old at the time. Excellent result. Need crown sorted eventually but concealer works well for now. Propecia and minoxidil since 2010. Fine for 8 years - bad sides after switching to Aindeem in 2018. Switched to topical fin/minox combo from Minoxidil Max in October 2020, along with dermarolling 1x a week. Wrote a book for newbies called Beating Hair Loss, available on Amazon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member TommyLucchese Posted March 3, 2014 Senior Member Share Posted March 3, 2014 Why did you make two threads? These aren't your results are they, this is only post op? Anyway as everyone has said in both threads, it does unfortunately look pretty terrible. You'll have to wait around a year to see how it turns out and let your donor heal etc and then go to a recommended doctor for repair work. How much research did you do before going to this doctor? Were you aware of this forum before hand? 2,000 grafts FUT Dr. Feller, July 27th 2012. 23 years old at the time. Excellent result. Need crown sorted eventually but concealer works well for now. Propecia and minoxidil since 2010. Fine for 8 years - bad sides after switching to Aindeem in 2018. Switched to topical fin/minox combo from Minoxidil Max in October 2020, along with dermarolling 1x a week. Wrote a book for newbies called Beating Hair Loss, available on Amazon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member thedude84 Posted March 3, 2014 Author Regular Member Share Posted March 3, 2014 No I was unaware of this forum beforehand and I don't have a computer and my phone locked up and I wasn't sure that the first thread went through. I'm still learning, sorry. I did quite a bit of research actually everyone was so professional and had so much experience I thought there was no way I could go wrong with them. Stagger Lee, you are correct in that these are approximately 5 days post op. Does anyone have any idea what I will have to look like for a year before I can be fixed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member thedude84 Posted March 3, 2014 Author Regular Member Share Posted March 3, 2014 I think it only took around 4-5 hours total but Idk because I was in a stupor from the drugs. I had not seen this website, regrettably. I'm glad as well that he only used/wasted 1500 instead of 2000. I just wish I had an idea what this is going to look like in 6 mos 9 mos 1 year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member thedude84 Posted March 3, 2014 Author Regular Member Share Posted March 3, 2014 I have documentation of thus whole thing before and after and did use a credit card. Could you direct me to the thread about recovering my funds? To clarify, the rn did most everything except the incision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Rootz Posted March 3, 2014 Senior Member Share Posted March 3, 2014 I feel for you, this can be fixed but like others said it's going to be a long wait. Based on what I'm seeing in your pics your result is going to end up looking pretty pluggy with low denstiy. The doctor who worked on you is absolutely terrible and should not be permitted to operate on people. This is the equivalent of looking at a surgeon's post op incision... and discovering instead of using sutures, he used duct tape. What he did should be illegal. It's unethical. I gotta ask, why/how did you end up going with this joke of a doctor? Did you see his result pics? If the pics he showed you actually looked good, you might have a good shot at getting your money back because that would be misleading. As mentioned, your best bet is to try to get your money back, then move on. The doc will probably have you wait for the "final result" before any type of compensation, but don't let em off easy. Be persistent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member thedude84 Posted March 3, 2014 Author Regular Member Share Posted March 3, 2014 No I don't have any pics immediately post op like while still at the clinic. Only the following day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member thedude84 Posted March 3, 2014 Author Regular Member Share Posted March 3, 2014 I have already contacted them and voiced my unhappiness with it. I was told that the 1500 would at least get good density in the hairline and co.e back for more density behind it later...yeah right. Not with this dr . They're reply was that It is too early to be worried and that it will look fine, I told them that there is no way that tthe almost 1/4 inch between the grafts would in no way be able to look natural and that pictures I have seen on the Internet had multiple times the density that I got and was told that that was as dense as any dr would have done because the blood supply could only support this much. Haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member thedude84 Posted March 3, 2014 Author Regular Member Share Posted March 3, 2014 The Dr was only there ffor taking out the donor strip, which surprisingly isn't as butchered as the recipient sites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member thedude84 Posted March 3, 2014 Author Regular Member Share Posted March 3, 2014 While the scabs are still visible on the recipient sites on my hairline, could I not get some fues in between them in a staggering design so as not to damage the ones already there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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