GeneralNorwood

I asked for temple restoration. That was the project that we made together. I am not satisfied. The worst thing is lateral humps, because it looks very unnatural from the side that i have dense front and then it's bald spot on the side. The aggresive hairline was first draft of dr Das and i agreed to this. I asked for some grafts on the crown, but what i got was only 350. Lateral humps was neglected, we didn't talk about it, i didn't see at the moment that this requires a lot of grafts to look good with HT on the front. I am not happy with strong hairline and weaker midscalp/lateral humps. The final result is not good. Bisanga told me that safe zone is 4 cm. You multiply it by 26 cm and you have 104cm2 donor area. The donor area is 65 grafts/cm2. So if you take 31 grafts from each cm2, you take 3200 grafts total. Donor area will be then 65-31 grafts = 34 grafts/cm2. Anyway, what can do dr Zarev and Pitella? Take more grafts from safezone and donor will look sparse or avoid the safe zone. Concealer doesnt work for midscalp and lateral humps, because there is huge difference in density and everything behind frontal third loos flat. Furthermore, frontal hair are curly and miniaturised hair in the midscalp aren't. What is prosthesis? Fake hair?

@BHRClinic Dr Bisanga came to Warsaw, Poland 2 days ago. I had consultation with him, which was for free. He was heavely critisising this hair transplant. His main points : - My hair transplant was made without a plan. It was like building a house without foundation. - Donor managment was bad and it didn't take into account future progression of baldness. - Hairline was made too low and it was a waste of precious grafts. In his opinion Caucasians have higher foreheads and my hairline shouldn't be lowered but made on the level of native hair. - HT on temples was mistake too. In his opinion it was a waste of grafts and caucasians don't have such prominent hair on the temples. He said that maybe it can look great on instagram, but it's not natural. - He used some special device and calculated that i have 60+ grafts per cm/2 in donor area. He estimated that i have 3200 grafts in safe zone for future HT. -He said that i have retrograde alopecia starting from the nape of the neck. - I have a lot of miniaturised, vellus hair on the midscalp and crown. - There is visible border between transplanted hair and nontransplanted, it looks very unnatural. - Next steps should be made carefully. He estimated that for 2HT i need 2500 grafts for midscalp and lateral humps. I asked him what about the crown. He said that if we had unlimited donor, crown work would require 3000 grafts. - He was talking about some differences between my beard hair and scalp hair. The pojnt was that my beard is not so good for HT. - He recommended switching from liquid minoxidil to oral minoxidil 5mg. - He recorded video to teach "How to not make HT in caucasian male". So generally, this information that 2HT for midscalp and lateral humps will pretty much use all of my left donor is worrying for me. What about the crown... This is photo that i received today from BHR clinic with message " We saw your topic on forum (hairrastoration). To be honest, we believe that the actual photos you have posted do not show the real picture, which unfortunately looks worse "

Well, you just quoted the advantages 😂 won't color all your hair.The result can be very natural, hair will blend nicely

Update?

Side looks a lot better now and not only above the ear, but at the top too 😃

1.Tourist visa, i got it in 2 days. 2. Paying by wire transfer is cheaper when you use for example revolut. Paying by card requires 3% extra fee to total price. 3. I had surgery with Dr Priyadarshini Das and i stayed in Double Tree by Hilton at Baani Square, it's near clinic. Two days were included in package. I asked Satyam for 2 extra days and he booked it for me with corporate disscount. I didn't stay for head wash. 4. There was beakfast every day at the Hotel. For dinner and other meals i used app called Zomato. It's popular in India, locals use it so it has good prices. I ate pizza at pizzeria da susy and i can recommend it. Price is not so cheap like on Zomato, but it's nearby Hilton at baani square.

Today i had some sun in my room, so i took some pictures of the top. It's month 9 and there is no big improvement since month 6. Dutasteride is not helping much.

Identical twins. One took finasteride, the other didn't. Look what happens after 10 years. But jokes aside. Amazing result. This hairline was best choice for you. Now it's only matter of time for extra density to come.

@Mo1brag Can you post pictures in daylight, outdoors?

Update?

Impressive donor managment

@Xanadu It's very good to hear, that Eugenix is not abandoning Tony. I think this result is below level of what we are used to see from Eugenix, so critical posts from many of users in this topic were unevitable. Therefore, Eugenix team should have extra level of understanding and empathy for Tony and i hope that from this moment previous communication problems will fade away. What we all want is Tony happy with the end result. True. Maybe it's possible to find some extra scalp grafts and in case of donor depletion it can be repaired with body grafts. and speaking of beard graft phases, Minoxidil prolongs the anagen phase and shortens the telogen phase, so sorry for repeating myself, but topical/oral minoxidil can bring great benefit for you , Tony. It's science.

Ok, but i didn't see him being offensive or smth like this and i didn't notice that he is spamming. He is expressing in civilized manner. Banning him seems overly sensitive for my taste. If he is "suspicious", observe him further, idk guys 😆 Anyway Melvin will do as he wants 😅

Or he is user from Italian forum hungry for discussion. It's speculation unless you have prove. So i don't know why ban him for 2 weeks.If he is not welcome in this thread, just ban him from this thread 🙄

Yeah, but Titanic had only 20 lifeboats that could accomadate only half of the passengers. That's why Leo died and he had Norwood 1... Interpretation is obvious 😄

Unfortunate metaphor dude. DId you ever see "Titanic" ? 🤣

Well, for the last 20 years i belive there was little improvement. But now this Chinese guys from Kintor are up to something and hopefully things will speed up.

But it can be after 20 years so i don't care. If you are good responder to finasteride/dutasteride, it is scientifically proven that this drugs will stabilize your hairloss for 10+ years. I started finasteride 2 years ago(now i am on dut) and since then i am better off. I will be extremly happy if i finish this journey with 2nd HT and mantain effects for next 10 years, i am dedicated to stay on medicine therapy. And on this forum we have @MazABwho is taking finasteride since times that it wasn't even called finasteride, so + 20 years and i think his hair are pretty stabile since he started taking this drug.

i am from Poland, so we have different products here and i use some polish brands You have to test different products for yourself. I can elaborate that my hair mask has sunflower oil, rycin oil and avocado oil. My conditioner has wheat protein, soy protein and arginine. My hairdresser recommended to use this kind of "women products" when she saw that my hair are very dry. Here is the result :

Well, your hair look a lot better then month ago. Waiting for pictures from photo session before and after procedure

You need to ask a lot of questions before procedure, they won't do it for you. Number of grafts is basic question. You didn't agree on specific number of grafts, so they did low effort job, harsh truth. Trust, but verify. Nah, you won't gain anything by contacting them. Would you go for another touch up? I wouldn't. So contacting this clinic is pointless. Can you send some pictures in daylight, when you are outdoors? Another thing is that your hair look dry on some pictures. Do you use protein conditioner and hair mask? It should improve condition of your hair. You can use hair mask once weekly and leave ir for 30-40 minutes, then wash it.

Tony, maybe you can try using 5% minoxidil, because as i remember you only mentioned using topical dutasteride. Topical minoxidil can do tremendous job for beard grafts. You can use it once per day, before going to sleep.

Yeah, my is maybe even little more aggressive then this "ideal hairline" project for Bandit90. However i am 3 Norwood stages lower, having Norwood 4 with diffuse thining, having good donor too, taking dutasteride and minoxidil, so i hope that i will pull it off.

You can take it only at night as i do, because of the long half-life

As i wrote in the first post, Dr Priyadarshini didn't want to implant grafts on top of my head to not harm native hair. But after watching photos from session i insisted to implant some hair on the top and she agreed to implant around 300 on the crown, it was finally 351 hair. Ok, that's fair 😄