Ronnieman

Word of warning- I've seen many people say they regretted ever getting on Dut due to shedding. Then they said it did no better than Fin. I say stick with what you know and go up to 1mg Fin daily first

0.25mg x 3 a week should not give too much sexual sides. I think at that level, it is mainly placebo and in the person's mind. I know even me taking 1.5mg-2mg a week I get paranoid about ED...but it is overexaggerated tbh

I mean, you answered your own question. You were on Dut for 17 years. It probably saved you from needing a transplant 15 years ago.

Sorry for the (very) late reply. I've been on oral Fin for a year but I can only use about 1.5mg a week because if I even go up to 2 I get libido and ED issues. I've started mild RU and will stay at 1.5mg Oral fin for now. Have just ordered topical Fin which I will try replace Oral fin. As you can see from above, my crown thinning and lack of density is evident.

Got a short haircut today, just posting for reference in future

Just read the whole thread, this is just incredible and uplifting. Congrats, Karl! I'm only 33 but your journey has given me so much reassurance for the future. Looking forward to seeing the result of the final HT!

Hey guys, So I've been on oral fin for a year- only 1.5-2mg a week because my loss isn't that bad. It's been working well with minimal sides- sometimes when I went on 2mg for consecutive weeks, I'd need to go back to 1.5 because I felt a bit of reduced erection. Now after 1 year, it appears I was getting some reduced erection on 1.5mg, so I have gone down to 1mg the last few weeks...It seems my EQ still isn't great. I saw a video from 'The Hair Loss Show' where they said after 1 year sexual sides start appearing for some people. Has anyone experienced this after a year? If so, what did you do? Did you go easy for a bit and then up the dose again? Or will these new sides be persistant? I am hoping it is a nocebo effect because I really don't see why EQ issues should occur at even 2mg/week Thanks for reading, any feedback would be appreciated.

Hey guys, almost 2 years since I first posted, Really beginning to notice some bad thinning and loss of density at the crown now. Typical MPB I think. Hairline has held ok although maybe a little thinner there as well. I've been on Oral fin for nearly a year, but I get ED on it so I've been only taking like 1.5mg week. It seemed to do the trick for a while but not anymore. My hair blows all around the place now, density is quite thin on top. I'm going to buy som RU58814 tonight to add it in to my 1.5mg fin. Will only stay at very small doses of RU every other day, and see how it goes. Cheers, any feedback at all would be appreciated.

By the way @mustang is it you who said on one of your threads that you got worse side effects from Topical Fin (Minoxmax) than oral Fin? It's interesting, my Topical Fin is from Minoxmax too, and I noticed whenever I went above 0.125mg a day, I'd get mild but noticeable sexual sides. It's only been 11 days but I have greatly reduced the amount of topical fin and substituted it for oral..and I feel no sides at all. I'm wondering if it's worth just ditching the topical fin altogether and committing to oral fin totally. Thoughts?

My T dose is 150mg a week, very standard. Sorry for my ignorance but what is TT and FT? Damn, I have not been prescribed HCG. The only issue is that my 'TRT consultant' is really anti-Finasteride, so I haven't told him I'm on it. He did discuss prescribing me HCG if I need it. I really need to watch the progesterone levels. I heard that can be an issue on TRT and Fin. Yes I hope the combination of fin, minox and RU will do the job. Although if issues arise I can get a hair system, as I have had T problems all my life and that has caused great suffering, hormone optimization is the first priority.

Was on topical fin for 4 months, seemed to be good results. My hair wasn't bad before then but had noticed a bit of thinning at the back and front in the 2 years before . Topical fin/min seemed to work well and also the corners of my hairline filled in a bit. I started TRT this week, and last week I started adding in some oral Fin, 0.25mg a day. Taking 1mg minox and 25mg RU daily as well. Maybe I'm paranoid but I noticed the front of my hair look a bit thinner in the last couple of days since the TRT (is that even possible?) so I will start taking 0.5mg oral fin daily now. I think my ideal is to switch between 1mg and 0.5mg oral fin daily. Ie about 5mg oral fin a week. I hope that does the trick to keep my hair while on TRT This is my hair now

How often do you use topical dut? I've only read of people using it once a week.

Thank you for your reply. Yes I think it should be fine. I was only planning to use 20-30mgs a day. I just saw a guy on YouTube who mixes the two.

I have been on topical fin/min for over 3 weeks now. I'm planning to go on TRT in 10 weeks. Will need to add in RU and be on 1mg a day topical fin. Am I able to mix RU in with my topical fin/min once a day? I know people mix RU with stemoxydine so I dont see how there would be a problem with this.

I know a guy in London who has been wearing one for a few years, he says it's excellent. I think he goes to this place

I thought exactly this when I saw your pic. Very thick hair Mine is naturally quite thin in texture, and it's hard to style it in any way but messy. I suppose it's lucky for this hairline

Yes I have read many times that they bald much less.

Unbelievable hair genetics.

Almost identical hairline to me- same age as well- although I have mild thinning at the back. HT is a personal choice at this point, I wear the fringe over my forehead though so I wouldn't consider one. Good luck with it!

There is something called Morr-F which is a min/fin combo. It has been praised pretty highly. I think it ships on Ebay. Also 'Happy Head' in the US, but I'm not sure they ship overseas (I'm in Australia).

You should take minox also seperately, if you've been using it twice a day. Here is a good tutorial on how to apply fin/min

Minoxmax has had many positive reviews 5 minutes before writing this I just applied essengen 6 from minoxmax (low dose fin + min) Been on it for just over 2 weeks now, starting at very low dose, and feel good.

Just a small question. Is water and conditioner sufficient to wash out topical fin the morning after I apply it? Or is a deep cleansing with a shampoo needed?

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Even without the fin, you seem a good candidate for TRT. You are clearly experiencing the symptoms of low T, and your T level is Low Go on some TRT Facebook groups for more info