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Just want to applaud for how you worded this, I find it pretty irresponsible when people casually tell others to "hop on fin bro".

Is there any correlation between how quickly your hair grows(naturally) and how quickly you see growth from a transplant?

I like Dr Reddy's work but why does he charge per hair? I'm no surgeon but transplanting a graft with one hair is the same as transplanting one with 4 or 5 hairs no?

Pekiner raised his prices recently, now it's €2.70 per graft whether that's hair or beard/body.

2.5k grafts at a guess. You have quite thick hair which is both good and bad. Good because, well, thick hair but bad because it might mean more grafts are needed so the density looks comparable.

I've not heard of the clinic but you look normal for 2 months out, you should start to see hairs growing from the 3.5-4 month mark.

You chose a good clinic so you've given yourself the best chance, HLC and Pekiner seem to do the best work in Turkey.

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No, it just means you'll likely need more transplants than someone who is on fin and you may need to compromise in some areas - more conservative hairline, less crown coverage.

Do you have any pics? H&W know what they're doing but 3000 grafts is a lot for some simple temple recession, 1500-1800 is usually more the typical number and I've seen a lot of good results using this amount but obviously every case is different. As for the other Dr saying he can do it but you'll be left with thinning temples, I'd probably avoid. To the average person, NW2 isn't balding but thinning is a sign of balding, I'd personally rather be an NW2 than a "thinning" NW1 so if he can't be confident of good coverage then I'd look elsewhere.

So who was the 2nd procedure with? The 3200 number was obviously a complete lie, you only have to look at the area covered and as pointed out before the time the surgery took. I guess this is what some of these clinics do, they lower their price per graft but then charge you for more grafts than they actually extract - which is basically fraud but then it's difficult to prove. Anyway, the work looks good and I hope you get the result you should have got the first time. Good luck 🙂

Hopefully you take this the right way but damn, you look so much younger. Great result.

So the end result is still the same, it just took longer to happen. Let's say your pic of you at 23 is actually you at 35 and your pic at 29 is actually you at 50. The net outcome is still the same, you're bald and you want hair. The only difference I see in terms of transplants is that you'd be able to stagger them further apart, or would you just wait until you're slick bald and only then do something about it? Obviously there is a point where I agree with you, a 20 year old with aggressive thinning shouldn't be thinking about a transplant and again I don't advise young guys going to some shady clinic who will give them a hairline 3cm above their eyebrows but I also don't see why they should just sit and wait until they reach some arbitrary age(usually 30) until they're allowed to do something about it.

I think this is true of all countries. Actually though, Turkey probably has more good clinics per sq/mile than anywhere else, unfortunately the same is also true for the bad ones. Based on the reviews on here there are still some surgeons doing nice work at the lower end of the price scale as well, they might not be as spectacular as some of the big names but they're not butcher jobs either. I've seen worse results from the UK(where I am) for example and at probably 3x the price.

I do get what you're saying, you had good hair at 23 and by 29 most of it was gone but there will also be many guys who have good hair at 29 and then lose it by 35. Hair loss is unpredictable and can strike at any time. If this guy goes to an ethical surgeon then they will only use grafts from the safest possible zone and give him a suitable hairline. Only if he requires more surgeries will they "expand" where they take the grafts from. I just don't think there's a magical age that you reach whereby it's suddenly fine to get a transplant.

Not necessarily in this thread but there is a general overtone of "avoid Turkey" on the forum, I just don't think it's fair on the good clinics who lose out on potential patients because the bad clinics give the country a bad name.

I don't really understand the need to wait mentality. So he waits, loses a bit more hair, now what? Wait some more? At what point does he stop waiting and start acting? If it bugs you then get it done but: - Do your research first, this is the most important step. Don't book with the first flashy instagram clinic you come across. You don't have an infinite amount of shots at this so get it right the first time. - This ties into the above point but you need to realise that you're very likely going to lose more hair so you need to be conservative with your use of grafts. don't go getting a silly low hairline that you can't back up in years to come. As for Turkey. Well IMO there are many good clinics there but there are also many bad ones, unfortunately because of the latter people tend to just say "avoid Turkey", which isn't fair on those clinics who actually are doing good work for very reasonable prices.

Spend the next few months reading up on as many reports on here as you can. You're paying £7.50/€8.50 per graft but even the highest rated surgeons on here are only charging around half that amount, there are also plenty of good options even in the €2-€3 range. Take your time and see which surgeons you like the look of and then take it from there. Your result so far is by no means bad but for the price paid I would be expecting spectacular, rather than just "passable".

Love the shape of the hairline, the slight dip in the middle is much more aesthetically pleasing than a straight line IMO.

That feature is already there, click the star/circle at the side of the thread title.

Wow, £7.50 per graft, that puts this surgeon as one of the most expensive in the world. It's hard to tell from the photos provided but the work looks good, 1600 grafts seems a bit overkill for the area treated though?

I have exactly the same, it doesn't really bother me all that much but I worry about what it means for the future. Is retrograde alopecia separate from MPB? As in, can you have RA but not MBP? Or is RA a sure sign that MPB will happen?

Wtf man. You've paid 2k and what have you gotten for it? Nothing! Get your money back. Tell them you have covid if you have to.

I can't recall seeing any permanent shock loss cases on here, though granted I haven't looked at every single report. I have seen a few where patients have been left with patchy donors and people on here have told them that it's shock loss and will grow back ... but it never did. I think in those cases though it was more likely poor harvesting rather than permanent shock loss.

Zero.