Jhonny

What about vaping liquids without nicotine? Would it be safe?

Hasson & Wong insanely expensive!

Many better alternatives cost/quality wise in Spain and Belgium to name a few...

I've paid my deposit to Turkey with Transferwise, it all went well and they got the money in about 4-5days.

Been taking that poison for many years and it simply killed my sexdrive and it took me few years to recover even though not 100%

I wouldn't recommend it.

I'm also having the same doubts. I'm gonna have my surgery in 2months and wondering if vaping can be as bad as smoking.

I am afraid so but good to hear some second opinion.

 

@Bigjab I just sent you a PM but I'll sort of copy/paste that message here to help others.

Anyway, as my friend @HLPToronto said I made an extensive research and I am a sort of mental when it comes to chose the best product or Dr.

- Demirsoy, 80%+ of the cases present on here, turkish, german, italian forums are positive to very positive. He does one patient per day and perform himself the most critical parts of the surgery. Great communication with his patient advisor. Affordable. Contacted about 15 former patients privately, 14 gave an extremely positive feedback.

- Bhatti, I almost went with him but lack of communication and his very bad attitude in his replies made me wait. Very low density in most of his cases. Too many marketing users everywhere, it looks all made up. Similar cost to Demirsoy.

- Yaman, similar cost of the above two, very incosistent, some good job, many other bad results. He is a gamble. Can't remember if he performs the surgery about himself.

Being a member of IAHRS or other associations from my understanding is just bullshit. To be members they have to pay a fee. What's the point? Being able to go to a conference once on every blue moon. On my opinion, it's purely marketing.

Cinik, is one of those chep bets you can make. He is a gamble exactly like Erdogan but a least cheaper.

If you are extremely tight on budget, maybe. I hate tech clinics so I am against it.

I am not saying Demirsoy is the n. 1, in my opinion he is the n.1 in that price range. There are many other great surgeons that charge 5times more though.

At the end of the day, my opinion is that the surgery is nothing astronomical, it's a pretty straight forward procedure, simple I would say. That is why I can't justify clinics like Hasson & Wong charging about 8times more than Demirsoy....what for!? I felt very offended when i got their quotation!!! They are good but honestly It is a mistery to me why patients go to them paying that price...

Other thing, if a Doctor is recognised on this website/forum, it doesn't mean he's good if you know what I mean. Do your research, speak to real patients, that's the way.

I hope it helps.

Cheers

 

I see you are also after Biotin. I usually buy it on iherb.com

Great prices and a very wide choice of products. Very detailed description of the products. Last night I did a bit of research into Biotin brands and came up with these 3 being the best according to some comparison websites:

• Sports research with coconut oil
• Solgar
• Zhou Nutrition’s HAIRFLUENCE

I have no idea if these are any better than others. I will give them a try probably.

I hope it helps.

Cheers

I use Rogaine Foam which is called Regaine in Australia because of some trademark issue. On special I can get the 4months supply here for $80AUD which is not too bad.

I tried also Foligain and like Kirkland was very unconfortable.

3 hours ago, Lennney said:

Thanks, my goal is to help others. Booking your actual flights on Mon-wed (regardless of days you fly to and back). In my experience the most expensive days to actually fly are Friday and Sunday. You're more likely to find better deals using kayak or your preferred travel search engine feature of " +/- 3 days " for the lower cost flights.

Here is my post, it has pretty good info.

https://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/topic/54236-travel-advice-airfare-guide/

 

You are a champion mate!

I usually use skyscanner to find the best suitable flight and then look for that exact flight on the airline website directly. It worked well few times.

4 minutes ago, Lennney said:

Best of luck, a HT is a big decision. Cant wait to see your post about the travel experience and the HT itself. You will have a life altering procedure, and I'm very excited on your behalf. It's improved my life. If you have the time to shop tickets and are looking for good deals (check prices daily, but note prices Mon-wed as they are usually lowest) could you please assist my price compilation? I didn't pull any data from Australia to Turkey nor India. If you have the time, could you make notes of any prices on my forum post in "open topics"? 

Just for your benefit, check prices from both large Australian airports to Istanbul. It may save you a decent amount of money, depending on additional cost of getting to other airport.

Again, best of luck!

Thanks Lenney, you have been of great help with all your reccomendations!

Do you mean book on Mo-Wed or fly those days?

Can you link your post?

Cheers

23 hours ago, HLPToronto said:

Thanks again Lennney ! this helps to solidify my decision and I am going to try Kirkland minox ( with extra strength )  

if its cheaper in the long run, reliable and  equally or less/more effective  then i think its a good costco product and should be on walmart shelfs too but walmart only sells rogaine. 

I never knew any thing other than rogaine, also tugaine recently was introduced ( due  to darling buds clinic )

Regarding Biotin brand , let me know which one you select in the end. I am also doing some research on that.......

Hi mate,

if it helps I tried Minox from Kirkland extra strenght and made my scalp super itchy. had to sop.

I switched to Rogaine now and it's fine, no itchiness. As far as efficency i have no idea, honestly taking minox for the last 8-10months haven't seen any difference.

 

Hi everyone,

I made my choice to go with Dr. Demirsoy, booked on 02/09 this year. His patient advisor Muzaffer was extremely helpful and I got several extremely good feedbacks from former patients. So my Dr. it's him 100%!

I can't say the same for Bhatti, his way of communication was very very disappointing, it took me several emails to get a simple answer to my questions, everytime he replied he seemed annoyed and on top of that I saw few bad cases recently handled by the clinic even worse. Also i don't like the fact that this forum is packed with his promoters, I felt everything that is being said about him on here is slightly pumped up and pushed with youtube videos and comments from users that clearly work for him. Not to mention their location, not the easiest to reach.

I will keep you guys posted with a new thred of my procedure when time comes.

Thnk you all for your help.

Very promising Lenney and even more important, very natural! It can just get better!

Badresults, I feel very sorry for you. 

@Shera you know I am only hours away from making a decision myself and Bhatti is on the shortlist ... your reply is very unprofessional,  you sound resentful, I felt like you were attacking the patient instead of supporting him...wtf!?!?

It doesn't matter if he didn't contact you before, he felt to go direct to Dr.Bhatti and you as a part of the Darling Buds Team should give the best support possible to this guy! 

The HT went bad, yes it is bad which is one more reason for you and all Darling Buds representatives to help this guy and for Dr. Bhatti to give him a full refund, this is what I would expect.

On 6/5/2019 at 6:15 AM, PlzRespond said:

This is just my opinion so keep that in mind. If I was stuck on turkey only I’d add HLC, demirsoy (although I did hear of a poor result here recently), and keser (only if 2000 grafts or less as he doesn’t do many grafts per session). I’m sure there are other good doctors too

@PlzRespond Hi mate, I haven't seen poor results from Demirsoy lately, can you pls tell me where i can find them? Via private message is also fine.  I am considering to book either with him or Dr.Bahtti.

Thanks @Shera and @Lennney for your pecious info!

In India I consider only Dr. Bhatti and btw eugenix is not cheaper.

I would be travelling from Australia heading to Europe to visit my parents so a stopover either in India or Turkey would be no problem.

I love istanbul, not sure that is a pros towards Demirsoy LOL

I ve been stalking his results as well and the fewer available are good to great.

Why so few testimonials online?

Hi @Lennney, you and @HLPToronto have been of great inspiration towards having Bhatti in my toplist. Genuine patients, similar hair caliber and concerns and especially same requirements when it comes to chose a doctor (Dr doing the critical tasks). On the other hand, I see a lot of other HT posted by representatives which somehow I trust less, I am of the opinion that a good doctor doesn't need this much marketing but results instead and that is the case of Demirsoy for example together with many other great surgeons like Lorenzo, Couto, Devroye, feriduni, Lupanzula, Keser, whom all fly somehow under the radar and none of them are being pushed on this forum by represenattives. Nothing wrong with Bhatti marketing strategy, I would just personally prefer to see less marketing involved and more real impartial patients but this is just me.

Hard to tell who is better in my case, both are equally at the top of my list each with their pro and cons in my eyes.

@Lennney how do you explain the low density offered from Bhatti in most cases?  My feeling is that he spreads the grafts too far apart, why is that? Because is less risky whereas dense packing it is more in terms of potential yield, damaging nearby grafts, necrosis and so on? Or is it simply the way he feels comfortable? Conservative approach is good but cannot be the answer, you see denser HT made with consciousness as well...this is my biggest dilemma.

I love Bhatti's attitude, kindness and knowledge but that is not all, if he only could guarantee a better density I would have already booked with him.

Demirsoy, a part from before after pictures, there aren't many real patients around to check unfortunately, I wish someone could pop up and tell me more.

 

Thank you guys always!

18 hours ago, Shera said:

I think with 3500-4000 grafts you will have a result that resembles a full head of hair. If you take Finasteride it looks like you have a lot of hairs that can be recovered and will enhance your result further. If you really want that super dense look then you always have the option of having a second surgery to top up the previous implanted areas.

 

@Shera, I stopped finasteride about 7years ago due to side effects but I'm willing to give it a new try if that helps. Should I approach the surgery being under finasteride or is good enough to start taking it right after surgery? Currently I am taking biotin, saw palmetto and minoxidil foam only.

You are not the first one to tell me to get a second touch up in 1year time but I don't technically understand how is it possible to have a second procedure if during the first one all available graft were taken? 

Hi guys,

 

I am at the stage now where I have to make a decision and pick the right surgeon for my needs and nobody else can push me to the right direction better than you guys, so here we go!

After about a year of reading this and other forums, considering my budget, requirements and my gut feeling, I’m down to Dr.Demirsoy and Dr.Bhatti.

They both sit within my budget, both perform most of the surgery (harvesting and slit making), both are delivering good results and good feedbacks from patients can be found online.

·        Demirsoy Pro & Cons:

Great results, good density, helpful customer care/representative.

Very few results online, surprisingly not very popular, few average results.

4000grafts quoted.

·         Bhatti pro & Cons:

Good constant results, highly ethical, I love his attitude, great clinic.

Density in most cases low to very low, no outstanding results online.

3500grafts quoted.

  

Within my budget and requirements, I don’t see any other Dr. that can be considered.

What do you guys think?

 

Few pics of my empty “head” here below LOL

On 3/3/2019 at 10:06 PM, psychopomp1 said:

Been using Regaine 5% foam for a while and never seen it dry or plasticize my hair.

A few things you need to be aware of:

1) Make sure you apply Minoxidil to a completely dry scalp

2) Ensure you massage it properly into the scalp for a good 30 seconds or so (gently of course), so more of the Minoxidil is absorbed rather than just letting it dry on your hair.

3) Don't use too much! A small blob of foam is all you need..assuming you aren't completely bald lol.

Hi mate, I switched to Rogaine 5% foam and I would say it works better on me...I still get that sticky feeling but less and no itching so satisfied overall. Thanks for your help!

Just thought this update might help someone in my same situation.

Cheers

Thank you guys for your replies!

On 4/9/2019 at 10:30 PM, Dr Blake Bloxham said:

I hate to harp on this, but we are seeing a big influx of patients who underwent hair transplantation at clinics where they were told the procedure was "scarless" and they could simply shave their head if they did not like the results. The patients then did try to shave their head, saw the scarring, and were upset. So it is good to see this topic being discussed openly and honestly. 

Good point Dr. Bloxham, this is exactly why I asked this question...I always got the feeling like FUE + scarless so then after seeing some pics i wondered if that was really true!

HT can be succesful but also unsuccesful we know that. What if I lose most of the transplanted hair and the ones in the donor area as well? It would be ugly not to buzz the few remaining hair down but it would be bad also to see thousand tiny scars. I wonder if this unlucky situation has ever happened to someone here on the forum.

I believe it's important to be aware of the potential consequences of anything we do in life wether them being positive or negaive.

Wether these 2 users are genuine or not i don't know.

I am genuine, a simple fella looking for the best place to go for an HT.

Given the fact that I am totally impartial I feel disturbing to see an army of fake users continuously highlighting your clinic. I'm not saying you are not producing great results, I'm just saying that your marketing strategy and sometimes arrogance doesn't help your reputation.

Be humble, let results speak for themselves.

 

Honestly I don't understand why @Ashishmehta hasn't been banned from this forum yet!

He's clearly 100% an Eugenix employee, you'll find him in every single Bhatti's thread stating that Eugenix is better...come on, this user is just ruining the reputation and trustability of this forum and we are all wasting time and such post/users are just misleading future patients like myself!

@Bill - Managing Publisher @Melvin-Moderator please take this seriously for the sake of this forum.

Dr. Bhatti is probably the most ethical Dr. on the market. Highly knowledgeable, good results and very customer focused.

Eugenix, seems to deliver good jobs according to pictures but too much forced fake advertising with fake users continuosly highlighting the clinic. To me they sound too dodgy, I don't trust them.