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Before I post what they take. I'll post some of the science behind MPB. What the real Causes are that trigger DHT to attack hair follicles and the mechanisms.This is back by Science research. So its pseudo nonesense. If you want to check the links. I wont post all of it cause theirs a lot. As said I'll link you then. Live longer and grow your hair by reducing your insulin levels.

I think you misread. It decreases prostate cancer. But increases the SEVERITY of the cancer, if you get it. As for depression and neuro degenerative problems This is why I don't trust the Merck study. How could 5 years of studies miss such a obvious symptom and inbalance? I believe the Merck Study has down played a lot of the symptoms associated with Fin. Saw Palmetto is a effective treatment. Its safe and works similar to Fin.As the studied quoted As for herbs and such. They are underrated in the fight against hair loss. Its possible just by adjusting your diet and getting the right supplements you can completely halt your hair loss. Again I know people who've done this. I've been to forums where people go this route against MPB and its a purely internal regimen. If you want all the information you can get on Fin go to this site. Its loaded with studies and feedback and is very informative. I'm not sure if we are PROPECIAHELP: Unresolved Finasteride Propecia Proscar side effects info & forum There should be a lot of useful information at their forum to As for the last part I'll reply in a new post

Your body only needs a small amount. So you don't want to take a lot. 90 mcg daily is all you should need. As said it has a great synergy with D3. Its very cheap together and helps to stop hair loss

That is a spelling error" Estrogenic" To put it simple. When a male is young his body is Testosterone dominant. As one gets older the spectrum shifts and a male becomes estrogenic. Fin is not good in this circumstance since it can cause a total dominance of estrogen. High estrogen will then result in possible BPH which a lot older men coincidentally experience. However, MPB is not that simple. Firstly there are lots of factors contributing to hairloss. There's two types of DHT, for a start, and the probability of numerous other hormonal and genetic issues that create hairloss. Lowering DHT does a great job of helping your hair but it doesn't stop balding. Yes I know the causes and symptoms. Fin is not a permanent solution it only attacks the symptoms. That's exactly what DHT is, a symptom in the grand scheme of things. Not the cause. I know plenty of people who've completely stopped their hair loss without Minox or Fin . I have part of the answer its just gonna take a lot of discipline to follow through. First off when a company does a study on its own product or a unbias source I'd consider it unreliable. It amazes me that some actually accept the Merk studies without question. I know I wouldn't. Their job is to make money. If there's one thing I know its that the medical companies out there are very corrupt and have pushed products on the market before that were dangerous only to be recalled..As if they didn't know the effects to begin with. It happens all the time. ....But yes most people I've met on hair loss forums other than this have told of the horrors of being on Fin. I've found the other forums to be a better indicator of people experiencing sides effects than some study fueled by a companies own interests. But if you aren't experiencing sides on this (whomever) then good for you. I don't have the site, But you can take my word for it until I can actually find the site again. Research does show that Fin decreases Prostate cancer. But studies have also shown a increase in severity of the cancer. So its sort of a trade off. Long term use of finasteride is potential neurodegenerative capabilities. Research has already shown that finasteride promotes a greater likelihood of anxiety and depression. Through the same mechanism, which is a reduction in the production of pregenolone & progesterone the propensity to acquire a neurodegenerative disease, such as early dementia is possible. I don't think I said anything out of line. Or said anything untrue. I never said Fin could kill ya. But of you are gonna go on something like this. Its a good Idea to take DIM. It will block the bad estrogen and limit the sides.

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K-2 isn't bad for you. If you actually believe that its misinformation. Your body needs it and is powerful at prevent osteoporosis and preventing calcification of the arteries...Along with the scalp. Stopping cardio vascular disease.Particularly MK-7. But if you want to believe k-2 is bad be my guest. The symptoms of deficient K-2 can lead to these Good symptoms as a result Anemia Heart disease Calcification of soft tissue easy bruising eye hemorrhage fractures gastrointestinal bleeding gum bleeding heavy menstrual bleeding hematuria Hypercalciuria osteopenia osteporosis Purpura Nosebleeds This doesn't include the numerous birth defects it can cause.

It wears off as you age. As your body becomes more estrogenetic. So if someone doesn't take fin they aren't worried about their hair loss? Nice logic. I know plenty of people and other forums that people refuse to take fin. Actually most other hair loss forums refer to Fin as "poison" and yes the % of people experiencing side effects is greatly under exaggerated. There's a lot of people out there taking and doing other things to prevent hair loss other than Fin.

The problem is you all are duped into believing that they don't work. That the only Lasers available are the likes of the laser comb or going to a clinic. All of it is ridiculously expensive and over priced. The problem isn't that they don't work. They aren't STRONG enough! They are selling you underpowered laser that's made out of cheap plastic. A ripoff The truth is LLLT is effective against hair loss. They reducing inflammation, help to replicate your mitochondria and increase ATP production. The only way to do this cheap and effectively compared to the alternative is build your own laser helmet which certain sites can instruct you on doing or may even build one for you. These homemade laser helmets are powerful enough to get results.

Um. Its actually being use in a lot of topical formulations for awhile now

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There's a lot of shampoos on the market and good conditioners. Its a trial and error to find what you really like However, My Shampoo recommendation would be Organix South Thera Neem Scalp Therape Shampoo. It contains beneficial ingredients for hair loss. Contains Natural anti DHT inhibitors and I believe is Anti Fungal as well. Its only 12 dollars and maybe cheaper at other sources. Ingredients Aqueous Extracts of Azadirachta Indica (Neem) Leaf*, Mentha Piperita (Peppermint)*, Rosmarinus Officinalis* and Melissa Officinalis (Lemon Balm)*, Aloe Barbadensis Leaf Juice*, Cetearyl Alcohol, Glyceryl Stearate, Butyrospermum Parkii (Shea Butter) Fruit, Azadirachta Indica (Neem) Oil*, Panthenol, Stearalkonium Chloride, Hydrolyzed Rice Protein, Essential Oils of Citrus Medica Limonum (Lemon) Peel, Mentha Piperita (Peppermint) and Lavandula Angustifolia (Lavender), Guar Hydroxypropyltrimonium Chloride, Simmondsia Chinensis (Jojoba) Seed Oil*, Phenoxyethanol, Tocopherol (Natural Vitamin E), Ethylhexyl Glycerin. * Certified Organic As for the conditioner one of the very best is Luxe Conditioner. Yeah its 22 dollars but with shorter hair it should go along way and it wont clog your follicles like most conditioners do. It also contains a lot of natural anti hair loss ingredients Ingredients: water, behentrimonium methosulfate, cetearyl alcohol, *cetyl babassuate, *babassu oil, **emu oil, wheat amino acids, soy amino acids, arginine, serine, threonine, acetamide MEA, hydrolyzed hair keratin, panthenol, sorbitol, sodium cocoyl, collagen amino acids, cocoyl sarcosine, wheat germ acid, wheat germ oil, linolenic acid, linoleic acid, sulfur, polysorbate 80, oleth-10, *jojoba oil, ***organic rosemary essential oil, organic lavender essential oil, organic thyme essential oil, organic cedarwood essential oil, ***organic orange essential oil, tocopheryl acetate, hydrolyzed glycosaminoglycans, dehydroacetic acid, benzyl alcohol.

D-3 and K-2 together with continual use is very BENEFICAL for hair loss. I'd would say its a top 6 supplement to take to fight hair loss.

I wouldn't call someone who refused to use Fin stupid. There are a lot of side effects. Some of them can be irreversible or required heavy treatment. Or the fact that it can increase severity of cancer. Androgen sensitive hair. That over time it does wear off and you are screwed later on.

Masturbation does increase hair loss. The evidence is very valid. Interestingly enough sex doesn't have the same side effect

Anti depressant & Stimulant: The components of Bergamot Oil, like Alpha Pinene and Limonene, are anti depressant and stimulant in nature. They give a feeling of freshness, joy and energy in cases of sadness and depression by improving circulation. They also stimulate hormone secretion and thus help maintaining proper rates of metabolism. This stimulating effect increases secretion of digestive juices, bile and insulin, thereby aiding digestion, proper absorption of nutrients, assimilation and decomposition of sugar and t he resultant lowering of blood sugar level. Relaxant & Sedative: The Flavonoids present in Bergamot oil are very good relaxants too. They soothe nerves and reduce nervous tension, anxiety, stress etc. and hence help cure ailments associated with stress such as sleeplessness, high blood pressure etc. Anti Biotic & Disinfectant: Certain components of the essential oil of Bergamot are anti biotic and disinfectant in nature. They inhibit growth of germs, virus and fungi. They also effectively prohibit infections, such as those of skin. If regularly used with bathing water or in soaps (this is already used extensively in skin-care soaps), the skin and hair remains protected from infections and become shiny. It also cures infections of colon, intestines, urinary tract and kidneys. Anti Septic & Vulnerary: The same disinfectant and anti biotic properties of Bergamot Oil make it a good anti septic and vulnerary agent. It not only helps fast healing up of wounds, cracks on skin and heels, ulcers, eczema, itches etc. but also protects wounds from being septic and developing tetanus. Febrifuge: Febrifuge is a substance or an agent that reduces fever and lowers body temperature. Bergamot is a good febrifuge due to many reasons. First, being an anti biotic, it fights infections from virus, bacteria and protozoa which cause fever, such as influenza (virus), malaria (protozoa) and typhoid (typhus bacteria), and thus helps curing fever. Second, it stimulates the metabolic system and secretions, thereby giving a feeling of warmth and resulting in more secretion (perspiration or sweat) from the Eccrine glands (sweat glands) and sebaceous (sebum) glands, thus reducing body temperature. Analgesic: It reduces the feeling of pain in the body. Actually it stimulates secretion of certain hormones which lessen sensitivity of nerves to pain. Thus it is very helpful in case of headache, sprains etc. all those symptoms which require heavy dosage of analgesic pills. Digestive: As discussed above, it activates and increases secretions of the digestive acids, enzymes and bile and facilitates digestion. It also synchronizes or regulates the peristaltic motion of the intestines and this way too, help in digestion. Cicatrisant: This property of Bergamot oil is the reason behind its extensive use in cosmetics, skin-care products such as beauty soaps, creams, lotions etc. Cicatrisant is a property or an agent which helps the scar and other marks on the skin to disappear. It also makes the distribution of pigments and melanin even and uniform, resulting in the fading away of marks. Deodorant: No doubt, this property of bergamot oil is going to attract the teenagers who are after every new deodorant in the market and desperately want something really refreshing and natural. This is an excellent deodorant. Its own refreshing aroma (fragrance) and disinfectant properties (which inhibit growth of germs causing body-odor) make it a really effective and attractive package as a deodorant. Anti Spasmodic: It relaxes nerves and muscles and thus gives quick relief in cramps, convulsions, painful muscle contractions etc. Vermifuge: It kills worms. Thus it is going to be a very fragrant choice for children who have worms. It can also be applied on the affected tooth or used as a mouthwash to kill oral germs and protect teeth from cavities. It does cover a lot of aspects of hair loss, theoretically. It might be worth a try

Never used it . But should help your hair not hurt it

You mean super zix?

Acetyl L Carnitine should always be taken synergistically with Alpha Lipoic Acid. Preferrably the stabilized version. Don't take L carnitine by itself. Through its generation of ATP through the mitochondria, it can increase free radicals without Lipoic acid. But together they are a very powerful antioxidant and will help your hair. Also you'll need to supplement with biotin then to. Since Lipoic Acid will drain biotin from your body. The combo is effective. Anyone looking to prevent hair loss internally, this is part of the equation

I don't see a list of ingredients anywhere. Are you putting this stuff on your head unaware of the ingredients?

DMSO/lithium is also anti fungal. Studies have also shown increase bone mass in mice when it was applied. Which would be good for hair

There are a lot of high quality herbal shampoos out there on the market. Try to avoid Shampoo that uses chemicals. Particularly SLS. If you go to Iherb. Its a distribution site for VItamins, shampoo etc. They usually carry some good shampoos. I've recently been using Aubrey Organics Ginseng Biotin. Its not a miracle shampoo but its nice. My advice would just experiment. I took a plunge and bought Bicolin Phydrium advance shampoo. For a whopping 40 dollars this stuff better be good.

My regimen to keep my hair is working for me..But my temples are transparent and the only way around this is if I get lucky and get Lots and lots of regrowth there (unlikely). My hair is medium length so the transparent temples becomes a problem. At times on a good hair day I can get around it. But most times not so much. I would go shorter but I do not look good at all. It does nothing to compliment my features but only showcases the worst..Also I have a mole in the upper right corner on my temple that would be noticeable if I got it short. It seems that my hair wouldn't look too bad and would be bearable in public if I just had my temples filled to provide adequate coverage on the sides. Not to mention a whole other reason just to cover that mole up..Of course I'm 24 but would I be turned down by a good HT doctor for such minor work?

Ann Dermatol Venereol. 2007 Apr;134(4 Pt 1):347-51. [Lithium gluconate 8% in the treatment of seborrheic dermatitis] Dr?no B, Blouin E, Moyse D. D?partement de Dermatologie, CHU de Nantes, 44035 Nantes Cedex. bdreno@wanadoo.fr Seborrheic dermatitis is a chronic from of inflammatory dermatitis characterized by erythema and desquamation with predominant localization on the face (nasolabial folds, eyebrows, hair-line and ears). It appears to be caused by proliferation of Malassezia yeasts. Lithium gluconate 8% gel (Lithioderm 8% gel) is the only drug containing topical lithium salt commercially available in France for the treatment of seborrheic dermatitis. The mechanism of action of topical lithium is not well known; it may act through anti-inflammatory and antifungal action. Efficacy and safety were assessed in 2 clinical studies, one versus placebo and the other versus ketoconazole 2% foaming gel using the same principal criterion defined as the rate of patients showing complete remission after 2 months of treatment (complete disappearance of both erythema and desquamation). Lithium gluconate 8% was significantly more effective than placebo and than ketoconazole 2% foaming gel and was well tolerated. Adverse events observed were cutaneous (burning sensation, erythema and pruritus), for the most part of mild severity. No cutaneous side effects contributed to those reported with the use of systemic lithium in psychiatric disorders were noted. Pharmacokinetic studies have shown that systemic absorption after topical application is low. Lithioderm 8% gel is applied twice daily over a recommended period of 2 months. It constitutes a new alternative in the treatment of facial seborrheic dermatitis, regardless of severity. Br J Dermatol. 2003 Jun;148(6):1230-6. Lithium gluconate 8% vs ketoconazole 2% in the treatment of seborrhoeic dermatitis: a multicentre, randomized study. Dreno B, Chosidow O, Revuz J, Moyse D; STUDY INVESTIGATOR GROUP. Clinique Dermatologique, CHU Nantes, H?tel Dieu, BP 1005, 44305 Nantes cedex, France. bdreno@wanadoo.fr Abstract BACKGROUND: Lithium significantly improved seborrhoeic dermatitis symptoms in comparison with placebo. Objectives This randomized controlled trial was designed to show a non-inferiority of 15% (primary end-point) of lithium gluconate 8% ointment compared with ketoconazole 2% emulsion. METHODS: The study population comprised out-patients who had facial seborrhoeic dermatitis for at least 2 months, with moderate to severe erythema and desquamation at inclusion. The primary end-point was complete remission, defined as the disappearance of both erythema and desquamation. The non-inferiority of lithium was assessed on the 95% confidence interval (CI) of the difference between treatments. RESULTS: The intent-to-treat analysis (ITT) involved 288 patients and the per protocol (PP) analysis 269 patients. Treatment groups were comparable at baseline on age, sex, disease duration and symptoms. For the main criterion, the success rate was 52.0% (lithium) vs. 30.1% (ketoconazole) in the ITT population and 53.2% (lithium) vs. 30.7% (ketoconazole) in the PP population. The non-inferiority of lithium was demonstrated with differences of 21.9% (95% CI 10.0-33.7%) and 22.5% (95% CI 10.2-34.8%), respectively, in the ITT and PP population. As the lower limit of the 95% CI was > 0, the superiority of lithium was shown. Lithium also showed better results on other symptoms: burning and dryness. Adverse events were reported by 26.3% (lithium) and 25% (ketoconazole) of patients. CONCLUSIONS: Lithium was 22% more effective than ketoconazole in giving complete remission of seborrhoeic dermatitis, with comparable safety. Proc Natl Acad Sci U S A. 2003 May 13;100(10):5834-9. A Wnt- and beta -catenin-dependent pathway for mammalian cardiac myogenesis. Nakamura T, Sano M, Songyang Z, Schneider MD. Center for Cardiovascular Development and Department of Biochemistry, Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, TX 77030, USA. Abstract Acquisition of a cardiac fate by embryonic mesodermal cells is a fundamental step in heart formation. Heart development in frogs and avians requires positive signals from adjacent endoderm, including bone morphogenic proteins, and is antagonized by a second secreted signal, Wnt proteins, from neural tube. By contrast, mechanisms of mesodermal commitment to create heart muscle in mammals are largely unknown. In addition, Wnt-dependent signals can involve either a canonical beta-catenin pathway or other, alternative mediators. Here, we tested the involvement of Wnts and beta-catenin in mammalian cardiac myogenesis by using a pluripotent mouse cell line (P19CL6) that recapitulates early steps for cardiac specification. In this system, early and late cardiac genes are up-regulated by 1% DMSO, and spontaneous beating occurs. Notably, Wnt3A and Wnt8A were induced days before even the earliest cardiogenic transcription factors. DMSO induced biochemical mediators of Wnt signaling (decreased phosphorylation and increased levels of beta-catenin), which were suppressed by Frizzled-8Fc, a soluble Wnt antagonist. DMSO provoked T cell factor-dependent transcriptional activity; thus, induction of Wnt proteins by DMSO was functionally coupled. Frizzled-8Fc inhibited the induction of cardiogenic transcription factors, cardiogenic growth factors, and sarcomeric myosin heavy chains. Likewise, differentiation was blocked by constitutively active glycogen synthase kinase 3beta, an intracellular inhibitor of the Wntbeta-catenin pathway. Conversely, lithium chloride, which inhibits glycogen synthase kinase 3beta, and Wnt3A-conditioned medium up-regulated early cardiac markers and the proportion of differentiated cells. Thus, Wntbeta-catenin signaling is activated at the inception of mammalian cardiac myogenesis and is indispensable for cardiac differentiation, at least in this pluripotent model system.

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