augustya

Jesus Christ It is such a such a Gross and Painful Video !! :eek: God Forbid even a Foe is not made to go through all this ever....

I think you should figure out a way to ban fueonly, because regardless of the fact that he is not affiliated with Dr. Bhatti he is negatively affecting his reputation with his incoherent ramblings and his incessant need to inject Dr. Bhatti into every thread.

 

I really hope English is like his 10th language.

Absolutely some or the other way he(FUEONLY) has to mention Dr.Bhatti's name somewhere in his post. I fail to understand what is his motive...Absolutely all his threads have to have Dr.Bhatti's Name in it. atleast once..

Note: I just think dr bhattis hairline is the only hitch

Again this is my opinion

Again a Baseless Theory ! :rolleyes:

hairlines people are talking about

lets go and watch dr paul shapiro , hasson and wong, rahal, dr umar sanusi hairlines here on HT network and utube and some turkish surgeon hairlines

then we will know what is hairline

rightnow i think if we garee dr bhatti giving best hairline and he is best in the world for hairline then we should sure shot wee videos of surgeons i mentioned and then lets compare hairline of dr bhatti

Ok, Now everyone is aware that the names of the HT Surgeons that you mentioned are world class. But that does not make Dr.Bhatti's work bad. unless you tell us what is it with the Hairline of Dr.Bhatti that you see as a problem. I am afraid people are gonna have to treat all your posts (which are repetitive, meaningless bashing) as "TROLL" :rolleyes:

Hey there, feel free to have a look at my frontal hair line done by Dr Bhatti, Im only 10 weeks since having my FUE, 1500 graphs for front line, I'm really happy I went ahead with the transplant, unsure where or why you have heard bad things about his clinic, I've been nothing but over joyed by every part of the trip. anyway take care, and if you go with Dr Bhatti tell him his lame jokes are funny, from Seth

 

Hair Restoration Social Network ? Community for and by Hair Loss Patients

Nope, I never said I have heard bad things about Dr.Bhatti's clinic !!

When did I say that ? Had that been the case I would have not publicly announced that even I will get a HT done from him !! I just had some concerns how good is he in mimicking nature's job of giving a Natural hairline, requires artistry IMO !!

I think this thread got a little misunderstood in the end, in the sense people are talking about lowering hairline then usual or permitted however when I started this thread I didn't mean that what I meant was after a Hairline is decided upon mutually by the patient and the Dr in this case Dr.Bhatti how good is he in implementing it, like giving it some fine, finishing touches like giving it angles, twists and turns to make it look like artist done job...how good is he in doing the fine artistry job. I never meant of lowering hairline than usual.

Mine is exactly the same case lowering Hairline !! I pray I get the same results.

SO WHO HAS THE FINAL SAY DR or the PATIENT ????

PATIENT HAS TO HAVE THE LAST SAY !!!! which is endorsed by the Doctor

Dr Bhatti is happy for me to post his reply that he emailed to me.....

 

"Thank you for the mail. I have been following on a few threads discussing my hairlines. Once bitten twice shy!

I no longer get carried away by pow hairlines which I used to allow to my patients who wanted them desperately. This was when I started off in my hair transplant career.

 

I soon realised that with age, your view of your body image changes and hairlines start to look rather puerile (child like).

Some of my patients resented low hairlines which they themselves forced upon me; so now I counsel all my patients about placing the hairline lower than normal.

I would not any more place a hairline lower than what I have explained here-

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I have refused a hair transplant to many patients who would not listen to me.

The doctor is not a mechanic who would do whatever a patient desires him to do.

Yes ofcourse I am flexible by half a centimeter!"

Regards,

Dr Tejinder Bhatti

Doesn't come to me as surprise, when similarly I consulted one more top FUE Surgeon in India, he had the same thing to say If at a point the patient starts demanding and asking for some funny looking hairlines very opposite to what he can carry at his age, I straight away refuse to do a HT on him, my reputation and name is at stake he said...

But having said that I am very keen to find out when Dr.Bhatti so emphatically says no to listen to any unreasonable suggestions or demands about hairlines from patient but whether is he open to take into consideration the patients opinion his objective and aspirations about doing a HT and hence having a desired hairline, I would love to see him do atleast this much what's the point otherwise if the patient goes through all this hassles and what is he paying so much for. (maybe "california" can comment on this) so I feel the patient and the HT surgeon has to reach to a common agreeable point which makes both of them happy...more the patient :-)

WOW Im a secret informer....:cool:

 

augustya I wish you all the best in your HT journey and I hope you find the right surgeon.

I have already decided on that ! It is Dr.Bhatti who will do my HT

All I did was to mention this thread to Dr Bhatti and than I asked him to give his opinion to me.IMO I felt that he needed to see what some members are saying about him (GOOD OR BAD) so that he can give his views to me only.

Again That was a foolish act IMO !

"That raises all the more suspicion about you!!".........please explain more:D:D

Yes firstly you act like a secret informer and then you do not say How Dr.Bhatti reacted on this ! It does raise some doubts in minds.

I didnt know you was complaining about his hairline...I thought you was giving your opinion...:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

That still remains the fact, I wasnt complaining I was just curious to some of the critics here like "FUEONLY" who said Dr.Bhatti is not a good artist when it comes to designing hairlines. Even I am planning my HT with him. So it affects me aswell. But we are here to discuss, now for each and every point here, if you go and ask the Doctor, that look some one is talking about you like this...do you have anything to say ? It is like kids fighting in school and then going and compalining it to the Teacher or the Prinicpal that look somone is talking about you like this ! Sends a wrong message IMO.

And on top of that you dont want to say it here what did Dr.Bhatti tell you. That raises all the more suspicion about you !!

 

Augustya u must remember you started this thread and we are here to help each other.

Oh Thanks for reminding me that, like I was not aware about that :rolleyes: I did not like it nor do I appreciate you going and telling Dr.Bhatti that look...look Doctor someone is complaining about you what do you have to say about it ? It will get anybody furious !!

For me its very important as Im thinking of having my HT with Dr Bhatti and to get his opinion on this matter I felt that he needed to see this topic (which he did) and from this he kindly gave me his honest answer.

 

BTW I emailed him not called him.

So why shoot it from someone else's shoulder !!

I have spoken to dr bhatti about his hairline and mentioned to him about this thread (topic)...he gave me a good answer and I was happy with his statement. Im not going to post here what he said as this may kick off another discussion.

 

If any of you guys need to know about dr bhatti hairline, than I say please contact him yrself......like I did.

Was this really required ?? I mean you calling Dr.Bhatti and telling this to him that someone has started a thread like this !! That was being a little over smart in my humble opinion !! Really not required !!

dr bhatti has to learn and he has potential to do better. i think dr bhatti has to post some recent pic of his hairline skilled work

now dr bhatti s only hitch which is hairline has to be tackled

i dont like dr bhattis any of the hairline he gave till date its my opinion

this being said i will also say he is the cheapppppppppppppppessssssssssssssssstttttttttttttt

fur surgeon on this planet

ok, I have gone through all your earlier threads where you have gone on and on saying about you don't like Dr.Bhatti's hairline, but in none of the posts you have mentioned what is it that is bothering you so much about Dr.Bhatti's hairline and what is it that you would like to see him change or do. Being a critic is fine but you should also know for what reasons do you not like him just saying all his hairlines are bad, bad and eternally bad how does it help mate ? If you have any creative suggestions let it come out here !!

 

I take it that you don't need your temple points reconstructed as well then?

 

I am in two minds about this, I do want to make it pronounced and define it more clearly, But I may not pack it with the number of grafs Dr.Bhatti has suggested. I would like to give it a touch-up kind of work so as to just marginally make it more pronounced but not make it look dense, it will look super artificial in my opinion.

Out of curiousity I would like to know how many follicles he recommends to lower your hairline?

 

 

1500-1800 Grafts.

Hey, sorry about my inability to be clear about my meaning previously. Hopefully with the photos in the first post it will make more sense now. Try re-reading it [with the edits] referring to the photos at the bottom of the post.

 

Here are hairline photos that were requsted + a couple more chucked in:

 

Photo #1: Pre op photo.

Photo #2: Front on hairline 2 weeks post surgery. Whole head shaved to about 3mm. This demonstrates the hairline you should expect.

Photo #3: Same photo with lines drawn in to emphasize how Dr. Bhatti does his hairlines. Sort on a shallow "M" shaped hairline.

Photo #4: Side on - 2 1/2 weeks post op, and already starting to shed.

Photo #5: Side on with lines to emplasize the hairline which includes the reconstructed temple points.

Photo #6: Taken today while driving in the car for the purpose of uploading today. 4 months post op. Head shaved to 9mm. I wear it out at work now, but gotta beware having lights above me (see next photo).

Photo #7: Taken last night under the light which demonstrates that it looks like it's thinning under light. At month 4 it should be about 25% of the end result, so I should be able to look forward to it thickening and filling out a lot more.

 

Photo #8: example of a flat across hairline - you will not be able to get this from Dr. Bhatti.

Photo #9: example of a rounded across hairline - you might be able to get this. I have seen a couple Dr. Bhatti patients with this result. If you want this ask for it specifically, because it is rare that he does these.

Photo #10: example of an M-shaped hairline - this is Dr. Bhatti's specialty.

 

 

I can't remember it looking great. The guy's forehead perhaps wasn't wide enough post hair transplant. Basically there wasn't enough width of forehead showing. He didn't like it. It looked bearable to me, but perhaps didn't suit his head shape. It was eerie looking at almost exactly the same hairline that I had - on another person, but it didn't suit him, whereas it seemed to suit me well.

 

PS fueonly has probably noticed the distinctive shape of Dr. Bhatti's hairlines, but personally I've found that it was right for me.

 

PPS now that I've clarified my meaning try checking out the other Dr. Bhatti hairlines (I won't mention names) and you will see the same trend, usually a prominent widow's peak tip [point A in pictures in first post], and varying degrees of what would emulate mature hairline recession [points B and C]. In fact my M-shape hairline is quite shallow (not receded) in comparison to most other patients.

 

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Ok, now I get it what you meant earlier. yes, a sharp widows peak, triangle at the temple points, a hairline which looks like a "M" looks like a patented hairline with Dr. Bhatti even in my consultation with Him, he suggested me the same hairline. But I thought it was a blessing in disguise for me because even I was kinda looking out for the same kinda hairline. It works out well for me, because even right now my current hairline is very close to what Dr.Bhatti was proposing me, Infact I felt really excited when he suggested me this, as I felt we connected on the same point. But it is one thing to just describe a hairline verbally or draw it with a marker as a line on your head, but at the end how do you actually make and execute it with a HT is a different ball game. I am a little nervous about all this, it doesn't matter what anyone says, I know my only concern is lowering my Hairline I don't have a bald patch or a bald crown it is just that I have a very big forehead giving a impression of a receding hairline so I just wanna lower my hairline and so a neat and critically executed hairline is very very important thing, infact that I the only thing I am looking out for. But I am anxious what if it turns out to be a bizarre looking one, I don't know how do I convince myself and push myself for this..:eek:

RNZ can you please show us your hairline photos

Yep that would be nice.

It will come down to a point in the middle, and have two high points above the temples like it is slightly receding. Sorry, not sure of the technical jargon here.

 

No idea Mate what are you talking about ? :rolleyes: perhaps need illustration to be able to understand better...

I actually negotiated the receding points to be 2mm lower, so mine is more flat across than most of the Bhatti hairlines you will see, and I'm glad that I did.

 

Would love to understand this, but again without pictures or illustration it is becoming difficult to comprehend what you mean here...Can you draw this on a piece of paper and upload it here.

One other point: He will say that the hairline needs to be asymmetrical to look realistic. If you don't want that, and I didn't, then be prepared to argue with him for 5 or more minutes. "No I will not have one temple 2 mm higher than the other one", "No I will not have it 1 mm higher than the other one". I am so glad that I got exactly what I wanted in this regard.

 

Man I need to know this what is it when you say one temple 2 MM higher and 1 MM higher

As for what can go wrong with a hairline: while I was in India I met somebody else who had had a Bhatti hairline and it didn't suit him for some reason. He was there for a second go at it and just wanted a flat across the top look, without the point in the middle, and the two slightly receded points, and had to negotiate/argue with Bhatti for a long time, and basically sign an agreement that said that he was doing it against Bhatti's advice. He had brought pictures to demonstrate that a straight across hairline is quite common but Bhatti would not have a bar of it. I never found out what the end result was though. This person said that if necessary he could remove some of it through permanent hair removal. He asked me my opinion and I said that it's for the rest of his life, so damn right he should have it how he wanted it. (I was secretly very happy that I argued with Bhatti as much as I did to get exactly what I wanted after that).

 

 

What did you personally think, did he have a proper hairline in the first instance when he got his HT Done in the first attempt with Dr.Bhatti and when he was asking you how his HT had been done.

Ok, so as of now. I have undeterred plans of doing my HT with Dr. Bhatti but what is making me nervous about my decision is when I see some heavy criticism here about Bhatti's Hairline being horrible, especially from members like "FUEONLY" so if he can chip in here aswell, I have gone through some of his earlier thread and he is like a big, big critic of Dr. Bhatti's hairline so I would really like to know this from him and also others that what is it that is so horrible wrong about Dr. Bhatti's hairline his hairline for sure don't look pluggy so what else can be done better with his hairline.

Come to think about it, I was wondering what can go wrong with a hairline, what else can you do with a hairline. Once your HT Doctor has drawn a line with a marker in consultation with you, then it is purely about implementing modern techniques of HT that is follow a Zig-Zag method of implanting hair, use Single hair graft on fine texture to create a hairline, so if you have done all this what else can possibly go wrong is what I am trying to find out, only what can go wrong according to me is either you draw it bad, make it too low, or do a pluggy hairline with more then single hair graft and with coarse hair.

I don't think after you have drawn a line with a marker, how that line touches your temple and peak and from there what angle does it take all that matters is because you have already drawn a hairline with marker to work upon isn't it ? Any inputs ? Suggestions ?

Also keep in mind that hairline design differs across ethnicities. Africans have low, square hairlines, Caucasians have high, rounded hairlines, and Asians and Latinos are in between. Dr. Diep has a series of Youtube videos and explains this very well. There is not one formula for all people.

Can you please post the link to the videos of Dr.Diep you are talking about.

Hi Guys,

 

While I do not believe I have seen a case presented on the forums, I am 99% certain Dr. Radha does perform FUE. Maybe we can contact the clinic and encourage her to share an FUE result. Her FUSS work is excellent, and I assume her FUE work meets the same high standards.

Are you sure about Dr.Radha performs FUE aswell nobody else is confirming this. I have had 2 detailed discussions with Dr. Radha and both the time she emphatically said no to doing FUE. Infact I also got a feeling during my interaction with her that she didn't believe much in the FUE Benefits and philosophy.

I think the good docs have been doing it for so long that they know instinctively, what will look best based on your facial features, head shape, loss pattern, etc. There are some rules that they follow such as most docs would never go above 7.5 cm from eyebrow to hairline as that would be considered too high. Also, temple closure and angles may have a general formula to them as well but again, most of it is the doctor's pure artistry.

I was wondring the same thing is there like a general formula on temple closure and how the angle has to be given near the temple and where should it end near the temple. I also kind of agree when you say most of it is doctor's pure artistry, I remember having a chat with Dr.Bhatti and he also concurred the same thing. Certain things I just cant explain in words, it is purely the Doctor's experience and Artistry, is what he said... But I strongly feel there should be a formula or a rule to the temple closure and the angle given to the hairline near the temple. I am a NW 2 or a 3 so for me the Hair Density does not matters as much as the Hairline design.

Was wondering what are people's experience with their doctors pre-design plan. I found that process to be a little underwhelming in terms of what I expected. Meaning, a few quick lines are drawn (on the operating table) and then was asked -"is this what you want?"

 

It's pretty hard to gauge as layman customer what and how those lines will look out when fulfilled. Is there not digital software that can take your picture and then give you estimated computer imagery of what you can expect with different 'battle lines' and with different graft counts? I'm pretty sure this is standard with plastic surgery for the face -does this software not exist in the hair industry?

 

I see a lot of clients state that they are not happy with hairline after a procedure talking about needing to get another one to either add more density or square/lower the hairline again. I think with better pre-design the first time, it would save many from having to undergo the knife again.

 

 

 

 

 

Fantastic Question Kudos to you that you brought up this question, Infact Even I had the same concern hairline design is such a imprtant point before you start the HT. I mean you can have a area filled up with hair but if it is not designed well, from the hairline perspective it all is useless.