Mickey85

Have always loved Demirsoy's prestine work and ethics. Wishing you an amazing result.

Still up there in my opinion.

Immaculate. The immediate post-operative recipient area is ultra prestine, wow.

I have to agree here. Whilst I did not see the initial post and was curious as to what was written, I don't personally think it should have been re-posted(publicly anyway) as it was willingly deleted by Dr Harris by choice.

Dr Feller, I ask you this question in respect and sincerity. Whilst the ISHRS data on strip/FUE percentages is certainly not definitive by any means, could it not at least be vaguely indicative of the trend in hair transplantation procedures? As in, FUE is currently and slowly taking away the 'market share"(if we can call it that) of strip? Would that be a fair assumption? Curious as to your thoughts on this. Again I'm not saying the data is 100% accurate as it excludes many vital elements.

Just watched Dr Karadeniz's video on strip/FUE. I can certainly understand alot of his sentiments(strip taking the strongest/most permanent hairs in the donor, FUE not being scarless etc) but would have been cool if he touched on the subject of the yields of both procedures. I could always send him an email and I'm sure he would answer.

Will check the video shortly. Thanks for that.

Karadeniz's opinion would have been great but he is no longer affiliated with the forum...

Isn't that a coincedence Hope everything works out for you buddy

Thank you for the very kind words Doctor, much appreciated. Great to hear a doctor's views on the various FUE devices out there also. I will come up with a term, might take a few days because I don't want to come up with something that is laughable lol.

looking great buddie. Grow it out and you will see the real benefit of benefit!

Fair question. I have not used any of those tools(I'm no tech or surgeon ) but I will lay down my opinions on the main FUE tools: Neograft: I think the suction aspect of the device is much too violent personally from the videos I have seen. I could certainly see this part of the device shearing the follicle from the scalp potentially causing damage to the dermal papilla. The graft canister being supplied a constant volume of air could cause drying of the grafts and desiccation. ARTAS: From what I have seen I think the punching process is much too swift(compression?). From the results I have seen I don't think it has lived up to it's claims of such high yields so I question the devices ability to detect and work around the grafts angles and depth. The Harris SAFE system uses a blunt punch which looks like it can actually create moe tension on the graft, rather than punching through it with as few oscillations as possible. This is what you would call torsion? I have seen some good results from the SAFE system but have sadly seen more unsuccessful ones. CIT/Versi manual sharp tip punch in my view looks like it reduces those three elements you speak of the most. Being a sharp tipped punch and manual, the surgeon can control the oscillations and use as few turns as possible because of its sharpness. I would imagine it would reduce compression apon the punching of the graft too, due to the razor sharp edge. The traction aspect you speak of has more to do with the actual pulling of the graft out of the scalp than the punch itself. I have seen surgeon's use different techniques. i do agree that when I see surgeon's 'yanking' the graft our and seeing the scalp pull up, it does make me think there is a possibility of damage to the graft. I have seen some surgeons like Lorenzo used the two forcep method where one forcep holds the graft whilst the other pulls tension on the area behind the graft, sliding it out in a gentle manner. This is just what I have seen. Do any of these tools eliminate all chances of graft damage? Probably not. But I think the CIT/Versi handle with a sharp punch gives the best chance. What do you think Doctor?

Dr Feller, what FUE tools have come out in the last 14 years have impressed you the most?

- Minimal depth extractions - Calculated extraction pattern protocol in order to avoid severe donor thinning - Prohibition of the use of excessively large punch diameters(beard hair extractions might have to have an allowance) - Avoidance of concentrating extractions to a small area of the donor(I saw a hairline case a few months ago where the patient's lower donor was completely barren whilst the rest of the donor was untouched...) - Restriction on performing on patients with diffuse thinning in the donor(this goes for strip also) - Complete disclosure of tools used. Punch diameter, handle type, sharp or blunt tip. If motorized, what brand(SAFE, PCID etc). Forceps or implanter pens for implanting? Choi or Lion? Holding solution. Extraction/implanting protocol(do they extract 500 grafts and then implant them and go back for 500 more etc? Or do they extract the full amout in one go and then implant?). This relates to the time out of body factor. I don't really think maximum session size or speed should be a factor. Skill, technique and protocol should definitely take precedence as I have seen some aggressively large FUE sessions being done in one single day and wouldn't like to see this promoted or encouraged. Just my thoughts anyway.

Oh it goes far beyond inter-forum politics, online conduct and mere disagreements. I once shared the same sentiments.

The part in bold highly dubious...

Thanks Doctor.

Doctor, in your opinion, if you stacked up the best strip surgeon/s against the best FUE surgeons in the world, what would the general yield difference be(all best case scenario)? I'm not trying to bait you and I can understand if you don't want to answer my question. Up to you.

Most impressive.

Excellent!

Also this one: http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/176046-repair-case-performed-dr-feriduni-%96-2922-fu.html

Yes.. Very concerning.. Maybe he meant 4,000 'hairs' into the hairline??

Thanks John, very much appreciated You look great by the way, about 15 years younger than pre-op

Thanks for the support guys, very much appreciated and touched. Hugs to all(1978Matt included).

The best scar revision result I have seen is this one: http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/178599-combo-fut-fue-performed-dr-feriduni-%96-3950-fu-single-day-session.html Although there is no promise that scar revision will work, this result was amazing.