Regular Member raybones007 Posted June 14, 2009 Regular Member Share Posted June 14, 2009 I've always like dr. rassman's advice on hair transplantation.. however i've felt his results aren't very impressive.. I remember reading about his doing a transplant on a patient that won " the great american dream" I was curious to see his results compared to the photoshop.. i'd say he was a little off.. I found this youtube clip taken about a year after his surgery.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wanthairs Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 if that really is the final result one year after surgery ---Id say its a collosal failure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member PLEASE GROW PLEASE Posted June 15, 2009 Senior Member Share Posted June 15, 2009 http://www.baldingblog.com/200...llow-up-with-photos/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member HairIsThere Posted June 15, 2009 Senior Member Share Posted June 15, 2009 .........wow...that is awful..I've read rassman charges like $10 a graft for the first 2000 and then like $8 per graft after that. For results like that, no way in hell is that worth it. - 1 HT ~ 3000 grafts - Regimen: Propecia 1X daily Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member TC17 Posted June 16, 2009 Senior Member Share Posted June 16, 2009 The result is not that good, but the kid was EXTENSIVELY balding before Dr. Rassman got to him, and there is only so much you can do in a situation like that. I'm not arguing that the result is good, but how many patients do you see who are that bald with good results? (that's not rhetorical, I would really like someone to post some for comparison sake) If you take Dr. Rassman at his word that the patient had very poor hair characteristics, what more could you ask for? The good thing about this result is that if this guy had not been on TV, I highly doubt that any of us would ever see the after pictures. You do have to give Dr. Rassman some credit for putting himself in a position where he knows that whether the surgery turns out great or poor, people will eventually know. My final point is that I'm a little surprised that this kid was a candidate for hair transplantation. He is a full blown NW6 at 22 AND had poor hair characteristics. I know I've said that I won't tell anyone to do with their own head, but if that were me, I would have shaved down. I think for younger patients like that they look better with a shaved head than with a thin hairline and a bald back 2/3rds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member aaron1234 Posted June 16, 2009 Senior Member Share Posted June 16, 2009 Yeah, that guy should have shaved it down for sure. Yikes. Dr. G: 1,000 grafts (FUT) 2008 Dr. Paul Shapiro: 2,348 grafts (FUT) 2009 ~ 1,999 grafts (FUT) 2011 ~ 300 grafts (Scar Reduction) 2013 Dr. Konior: 771 grafts (FUT) 2015 ~ 558 grafts (FUT) 2017 ~ 1,124 grafts (FUE) 2020 My Hair Transplant Journey with Shapiro Medical Group Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member thanatopsis_awry Posted June 16, 2009 Senior Member Share Posted June 16, 2009 I wouldn't expect some thick lion's mane, but this looks pretty poor for nearly 6000. The documentation, as usual, is lacking, as well. H+W pump out cases like pez w/ similiar (if not lower) graft totals with end-results that dwarf this; several from SMG, Feller, and Konior, too, come to mind with far superior, far more natural-looking results. Totally agree that he should not have gotten a HT, and I'm surprised that if his hair charachteristics are as bad as Rassman says that he even operated on him. I find it very hard to believe this kis is truly happy with where his hair currently stands and his future prospects for now his *3rd* surgery. ----------- *A Follicles Dying Wish To Clinics* 1 top-down, 1 portrait, 1 side-shot, 1 hairline....4 photos. No flash. Follicles have asked for centuries, in ten languages, as many times so as to confuse a mathematician. Enough is enough! Give me documentation or give me death! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member imissthebarber Posted June 16, 2009 Senior Member Share Posted June 16, 2009 Rassman states in the article PGP linked: A coarser hair will have three or four times the volume (visual effect) than a fine hair with less bulk to it. I think it would be fair to say that a lot of photos of "great results" are with patients whose hair is not fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member PLEASE GROW PLEASE Posted June 16, 2009 Senior Member Share Posted June 16, 2009 IMB . Your exactly right. Take a look at most of the homeruns clinics provide . Those patients had alot of grafts with super thick donor hair shafts . It makes a HUGE difference in density. I dont care how bad your donor is 6000 grafts should produced a much better result then this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member hairthere Posted June 17, 2009 Senior Member Share Posted June 17, 2009 i have yet to see a rassman ht that has impressed me.... I am the owner/operator of AHEAD INK a Scalp Micropigmentation Company in Fort Lee, New Jersey. www.aheadink.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member vincehair Posted June 17, 2009 Senior Member Share Posted June 17, 2009 Imagine spending your own 25grand for that result! SHEESH! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wanthairs Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 True---Ive never seen an impressive result either from Rassman, that can compare to the few top docs that regularly post on this forum......Is he still a member of this organisation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member raybones007 Posted June 18, 2009 Author Regular Member Share Posted June 18, 2009 I think there are two things of note here.. one is that the youtube link I provided was one year later.. the link that was provided from PLEASE GROW was AFTER his 2nd surgery.. Rassman probably knew it wasn't going to turn out good but you couldn't buy that kind of publicity.. if the show turned out to be a huge hit, it would've definitely been worth giving him a band result.. NW6 on a 22yr old with band characteristics should probably never happen.. it actually goes against alot of what i read rassman speak about on his blog.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill - Seemiller Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 Guys, There are a lot of considerations and variables beyond the number of grafts that make up a hair transplant result. And though I can understand why nobody thinks this is a "wow" transformation based on the minimal amount of information we have, I think some of you may be a little quick with your judgement on the outcome, especially since I don't think any of the photos presented above show the result after all 3 surgeries - unless I missed them. Mind you, some of this may be the fault of how this has been presented. I have encouraged Dr. Rassman on previously posted albums to post photos showing the top of the head along with the others, yet I haven't seen him take my advice. This would clearly help us evaluate and appreciate his work more. I am going to send an email to Dr. Rassman (who is still a member of the Coalition) and ask if he's willing and able to share more information and photos on this patient. Best wishes, Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member youngsuccess Posted June 18, 2009 Senior Member Share Posted June 18, 2009 Yeah, Rassman's results usually don't "wow" me. This also is one of the worst cases of female hairline work I have seen on this forum: http://hair-restoration-info.c...21087683/m/402101651 I think my last post in the thread sums up the issue there, but who knows since we never got a response. ------- All opinions are my own and my advice should not constitute as medical advice. View my My Hair Loss Website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Speegs Posted June 19, 2009 Senior Member Share Posted June 19, 2009 Rassman did a good job with Jon Gosselin of TLC's "Jon & Kate + 8", he restored his face framing which makes all other thinning a heck of a lot easier to deal with. http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_redface.gif[/img]fficial%26sa%3DN%26um%3D1&ei=eUY7SvOIMqW8tAPvxbj3Cg"]http://images.google.com/imgre...Y7SvOIMqW8tAPvxbj3Cg Hair loss patient and transplant veteran. Once a Norwood 3A. Received 2,700 grafts with coalition doctor on 8/13/2010 Received 2,380 grafts with Dr. Steven Gabel on 9/30/2011 Received 1,820 grafts with Dr. Steven Gabel on 7/28/2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member thanatopsis_awry Posted June 19, 2009 Senior Member Share Posted June 19, 2009 Rassman didn't perform that HT; it was done by his partner, Dr. Pak. ----------- *A Follicles Dying Wish To Clinics* 1 top-down, 1 portrait, 1 side-shot, 1 hairline....4 photos. No flash. Follicles have asked for centuries, in ten languages, as many times so as to confuse a mathematician. Enough is enough! Give me documentation or give me death! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Mr. GQ Posted June 19, 2009 Senior Member Share Posted June 19, 2009 Rassman or Pak - one word BRUTAL!!!! but hey nobody bats 1000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member thanatopsis_awry Posted June 19, 2009 Senior Member Share Posted June 19, 2009 GQ, "hey nobody bats 1000" is the new "hey there's always next year" for Ranger fans in winning another Stanley Cup! ----------- *A Follicles Dying Wish To Clinics* 1 top-down, 1 portrait, 1 side-shot, 1 hairline....4 photos. No flash. Follicles have asked for centuries, in ten languages, as many times so as to confuse a mathematician. Enough is enough! Give me documentation or give me death! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Mr. GQ Posted June 19, 2009 Senior Member Share Posted June 19, 2009 LOL - either way thana but first quote somehow sounds better and more promising Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member PLEASE GROW PLEASE Posted June 19, 2009 Senior Member Share Posted June 19, 2009 Originally posted by thanatopsis_awry:GQ, "hey nobody bats 1000" is the new "hey there's always next year" for Ranger fans in winning another Stanley Cup! Cubs fans favorite saying for the past 100 years. Rassman may be a pioneer and well respected surgeon but his results are average at best. You would think for a surgeon to charge twice the amount that his results would be at least on the same level as the top clinics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member JohnS Posted June 22, 2009 Senior Member Share Posted June 22, 2009 I have no idea why he was allowed to become a member of this forum, his work is not up to par. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member spin266 Posted July 3, 2009 Regular Member Share Posted July 3, 2009 hey pgp ur a hawks fan right. when was the last time they won the cup.alot longer than1994.lay off my rangers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member PLEASE GROW PLEASE Posted July 3, 2009 Senior Member Share Posted July 3, 2009 HUH? OOOOOK Did you see who the Hawks just signed. Anyway I know its a holiday weekend but it too early to be drinking . I didnt post that homey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member JohnS Posted July 3, 2009 Senior Member Share Posted July 3, 2009 I could never understand how Rassman gets patients to pay his exorbitant fees! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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