sukh123 Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 3 minutes ago, michael hofmann said: Yes but i don"t want to shw my face or other people. i have to edit these photos and i do not know how. It’s very simple if you have a iPhone , the clinic photos will also show your face I assume . Use markup on the iPhone if you have it on the images. Are you from Germany Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member michael hofmann Posted July 24, 2022 Author Senior Member Share Posted July 24, 2022 i have lg, no iphone. Yes i am from Germany. I will try to post this photos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member michael hofmann Posted July 25, 2022 Author Senior Member Share Posted July 25, 2022 That is a photo of my donor area 6 weeks after the first surgery with HLC. I use toppik on the crown. I hope you can see, the donor area was ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Jackdaniels Posted July 25, 2022 Regular Member Share Posted July 25, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, michael hofmann said: That is a photo of my donor area 6 weeks after the first surgery with HLC. I use toppik on the crown. I hope you can see, the donor area was ok. this is very small photo. We cant see. Dont you have a better one ? also dont you have pre op photos of you ? Edited July 25, 2022 by hawkins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member michael hofmann Posted July 25, 2022 Author Senior Member Share Posted July 25, 2022 No, i dont have any pre op photos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member A Fue Good Men Posted July 25, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted July 25, 2022 I’m very sorry to hear about your story OP. I used to recommend hlc all the time as I assumed they were doing good work. Your story has changed my mind 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member michael hofmann Posted July 25, 2022 Author Senior Member Share Posted July 25, 2022 Thanks man. I really hope i am the lust one who makes such a mistake. You think you are in good hands and you end up getting destroyed by others. I have posted my story to warn other people, to do what i did not do. Before you will make such a decision xou need to spend much time doing your research and finding a REAL DOCTOR who can help you and not going after your money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member ITA Posted July 25, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted July 25, 2022 What HLC did with you, is what the pseudo clinics or Turkish hair mills do to so many guys, I advise you to publish your bad story all over the web, so that many can read and save their heads. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Vann Posted July 25, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted July 25, 2022 13 hours ago, michael hofmann said: No, i dont have any pre op photos. what about the photos you sent to the clinic prior to your surgery? I am sure you sent something to them with updates? I saw that bathroom photo with the shirt and I can recognize that setting so I am not saying I dont believe you. Its just alarming to see this type of work being done. So to better grasp what was done if you have any prior photos you could show us that would be helpful. 1 Follow my first hair transplant journey 3,252 Grafts a minimum of 6,712 hairs June 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Senior Member michael hofmann Posted July 25, 2022 Author Senior Member Share Posted July 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Vann said: what about the photos you sent to the clinic prior to your surgery? I am sure you sent something to them with updates? I saw that bathroom photo with the shirt and I can recognize that setting so I am not saying I dont believe you. Its just alarming to see this type of work being done. So to better grasp what was done if you have any prior photos you could show us that would be helpful. I had a consulting with hlc in frankfurt before my first surgery, i did not send any photos to them. I have arranged my second surgery in August 2021, so 6 Months after the fisrt surgery because their waiting list was becuase of the covid about six months. At that time i really thought that it was too early for a final judgment of the first operation. In internet what i have become is that for the beard grafts you have to wait at least 16 Months to get a result. Anyway we arranged a consulting one day prior to the operation in Ancara. This was supposed to be in 18 January. Instead of that we go ahead for the operation at the same day. As i told before i am planning to ask from the clinic to send me the pictures that they took. In the Photo i have send i hope you can see that my donor area, after the first operation was ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member michael hofmann Posted July 25, 2022 Author Senior Member Share Posted July 25, 2022 7 minutes ago, michael hofmann said: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member michael hofmann Posted July 25, 2022 Author Senior Member Share Posted July 25, 2022 This photo took the "surgeon" at the end of the operation with my phone to show me the number of the grafts they took. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE TRUTH Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 Man this is by far one of the worst and nastiest hairmill botches I've seen in a quite a while... Poor growth + overharvested donor + unethical post op behaviour All the ingredients are there. Shame on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Vann Posted July 25, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted July 25, 2022 1 hour ago, michael hofmann said: I had a consulting with hlc in frankfurt before my first surgery, i did not send any photos to them. I have arranged my second surgery in August 2021, so 6 Months after the fisrt surgery because their waiting list was becuase of the covid about six months. At that time i really thought that it was too early for a final judgment of the first operation. In internet what i have become is that for the beard grafts you have to wait at least 16 Months to get a result. Anyway we arranged a consulting one day prior to the operation in Ancara. This was supposed to be in 18 January. Instead of that we go ahead for the operation at the same day. As i told before i am planning to ask from the clinic to send me the pictures that they took. In the Photo i have send i hope you can see that my donor area, after the first operation was ok. Yeah I understand better now. I am sorry this was your experience. I’m surprised you wouldn’t have taken any before photos even before consulting. But everyone handles things differently. Has there been any contact between you and HLC? Whether that’s between any of the coordinators, doctors, etc? Follow my first hair transplant journey 3,252 Grafts a minimum of 6,712 hairs June 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member michael hofmann Posted July 25, 2022 Author Senior Member Share Posted July 25, 2022 I have spoken to dogan, one from the coordinators, 4 weeks and three months after the operation. Andreas Kramer, a HT-Consultant from Germany has spoken to them too. They told me then i should not woory about it and after 6 months it will be fine. After 6 months i have spoken to Dogan again and send him my pictures. The guy really did not give a sh.. about it. I have explained him my Situation and asked him to show the pictures to the Doctor. I did not gen any answers. I have called him again and asked him, he told me he was too busy to examine the pictures ans i should send them per email, then it goes faster to the "doctors". I did it and still not got any answer. I texted Dogan about this ans his answer was: i should wait for my turn. What do you thind about this behaviour? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member ITA Posted July 25, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted July 25, 2022 20 minutes ago, michael hofmann said: What do you thind about this behaviour? Which is a classic of the lousiest places in Turkey where they say they do hair transplants. In a while they will not even answer you anymore and will also block you on whatsapp 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Jackdaniels Posted July 25, 2022 Regular Member Share Posted July 25, 2022 25 minutes ago, michael hofmann said: I have spoken to dogan, one from the coordinators, 4 weeks and three months after the operation. Andreas Kramer, a HT-Consultant from Germany has spoken to them too. They told me then i should not woory about it and after 6 months it will be fine. After 6 months i have spoken to Dogan again and send him my pictures. The guy really did not give a sh.. about it. I have explained him my Situation and asked him to show the pictures to the Doctor. I did not gen any answers. I have called him again and asked him, he told me he was too busy to examine the pictures ans i should send them per email, then it goes faster to the "doctors". I did it and still not got any answer. I texted Dogan about this ans his answer was: i should wait for my turn. What do you thind about this behaviour? have you asked @Melvin- Moderatorto talk with the HLC clinic ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member ITA Posted July 25, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted July 25, 2022 10 minutes ago, jose07 said: have you asked @Melvin- Moderatorto talk with the HLC clinic ? I don't think @Melvin- Moderatorcan do this, HLC is not a clinic of those recommended on HRN, they are not obliged to answer to @Melvin- Moderator in case he want to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member michael hofmann Posted July 25, 2022 Author Senior Member Share Posted July 25, 2022 10 minutes ago, jose07 said: have you asked @Melvin- Moderatorto talk with the HLC clinic ? I have asked Andreas Krämer to talk with them again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted July 25, 2022 Administrators Share Posted July 25, 2022 Guys, Unfortunately, I do not have HLC’s contact information. However, I do believe it’s important to give this case time. 6 months is hardly enough time to cast judgment. I understand it’s very easy to start commenting, but it’s important to remember that 6 months is too early. I was not satisfied at 6 months. Rarely, is anyone satisfied at 6 months. I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Gramatik Posted July 25, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted July 25, 2022 Can you upload clear photos of your current situation ? Recipient area and donor. To see how you look now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member michael hofmann Posted July 25, 2022 Author Senior Member Share Posted July 25, 2022 18 minutes ago, ITA said: Which is a classic of the lousiest places in Turkey where they say they do hair transplants. In a while they will not even answer you anymore and will also block you on whatsapp Exactly man. I just cannot believe i did not see this before. Just now, Gramatik said: Can you upload clear photos of your current situation ? Recipient area and donor. To see how you look now. I have now shaved my head to see how it looks, but it did not get any better. I am planning to post new photos in 1-2 weeks. But when i compare it from 3 to 6 Months the problem in my donor area has only gotten worse. I have too hoped that this is some kind of schockloss at the beginning but clearly that is not the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Gramatik Posted July 25, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted July 25, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, michael hofmann said: Exactly man. I just cannot believe i did not see this before. I have now shaved my head to see how it looks, but it did not get any better. I am planning to post new photos in 1-2 weeks. But when i compare it from 3 to 6 Months the problem in my donor area has only gotten worse. I have too hoped that this is some kind of schockloss at the beginning but clearly that is not the case. It might be shock loss, which comes back after months. We are waiting your new photos then, so we can see your progress. If there are no pictures of your current situation we can not discuss about ur problem l, cause we can’t see it. I think it’s reasonable to ask from you to upload clear current photos of yourself. I wish you all the best. Edited July 25, 2022 by Gramatik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member michael hofmann Posted July 25, 2022 Author Senior Member Share Posted July 25, 2022 5 minutes ago, Gramatik said: It might be shock loss, which comes back after months. We are waiting your new photos then, so we can see your progress. If there are no pictures of your current situation we can not discuss about ur problem l, cause we can’t see it. I think it’s reasonable to ask from you to upload clear current photos of yourself. I wish you all the best. The photos that i have uploaded are from 10 days ago. There is not any big difference. Halo? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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