michael hofmann

I really do not know. He is not working there

The whole story with this clinic 6-7 months after the surgery is little bit of a joke. They invited me to their consultations in berlin and i went just because i wanted to hear what they have to say to me. They offered my to do a repair with 150 grafts, that means they wanted to take 150 grafts from the area above the Depletion and put them in the donor area. I have talked to many doctors after the surgery and they all told me that another hairtransplant is very difficult, i need at least 5000-6000 bodyhairs which i do not have and the result is not guaranteed. This concept with 150 gafts was straight up bullsh*t. I asked the guy why he told me that with my donor area they can go up to 6000 grafts ant their rep. answered me that he did not meaned that, he meant 6000 grafts counting the previous op that i had. This is straight up lie. I asked the guy why he did not checked my donor area at the first or at the second surgery and i did not get any answer. I sawed him pictures of my donor area and asked him how did he came up with this idea doing two surgeries and he did not answered. Their rep. told me that they cannot evaluate this pictures, the pictures that they took at the day of the surgery. After that their rep. came with another idea to do a repair with 500 grafts from the beard and some chesthairs too. He did not bothered to check the beard, which is also depleted, or if i have any chesthairs too. Anyway i dont want to get more into details but the whole thing was sketchy and premeditated. Their rep. told me after the consulting by mistake that they were reccording the conversation. Probably being afraid of a lawsuit and after legal advice they invited me there and told some more lies to me. The director of the clinic even told me that from where i begin until now i have made a big progress, that he is the prasident of fue europe and i cannor question his ethics. Well a big liar and a real snake is what he is. A couple of weeks after this consulting i got a call from their rep. asking me about my decision if i wanted to do the repair or if i wanted some money back. Otherwise we will have to go through the court because i went public with this and i should not because they did not did this intentionally. I explained the guy what the director was doing by the consulting in the second surgery, he was joking with the other doctor about the poor growth that i had, told me that i had to pay 2,7 euros for the unshaven op and never bothered to check my donor area. He then told me that he was ashamed too for what he did, which i do not believe by any means. Melvin, this is not a bad case that every clinic has. This is fraud from the very beginning. At my first surgery by them the guy saw that i had severe Dermatitis and that needed to be treated before the surgery. He did not told me anything about it because de did not wanted to cancel the surgery. He checked my donor area with naked eye after they shaved my head and told me that it looks great, that they can go up to 6000 grafts, no serious doctor does something like that. The second part of my surgery with them, making the incisions ant the implantation of the grafts in the crown which is supposed to be the difficult par, was not done by a doctor of this clinic but from a young guy who was there to do a training on fue. How can this be ok? I have a big responsibility too because i believed everythig this guy told me and did not realise where i was getting myself into. This was all done for the money.

Hi, thanks man. No, unfortunately i did not found any solution to this. I am in a stage were i am scared to leave the house or look myself in the mirror. I wish i would have found you guys before making any decisions.

I have already told what happened. Before HLC there was no damage done and no big surgery. The reason for an overharvested donor area in no other but the gread of the doctor there to get more grafts and more money out of a patient. Unfortunately there are many scammers who pretend to be the doctors and the hair spezialist.

This is 8 months after surgery, nothing really changed. They have really destroyed my donor area.

You seem to know everything about this patient and what the doctors did. How do you know all this stuff? Were you there by his consulting too? I have to ask you again, do you have any proof of what you are saying and who you are?

Happy you can assure me about this and that you are running a tight ship. Omega5 is new to this forum too and he knows another patient with the same problem too, from america. Do you have any proof from what you are saying? Because i think i have prooved everything i have said.

Honestly i feel you are missing the point and the problem they have caused me. I have made this thread to show the damage that this clinic caused to the back of my head. This is something serious and really hard to fix.

At the consulting by the first procedure the Director asked me about it and i have told him that i have ekzem. Dermatitis. That is all about. No, they did not offered or said anything about a biopsy.

All the doctors that i have mentioned are doing manual punch for the last 20 years ant they are still taking this approach in order not to damage the grafts. I do not get that point with the first and the second procedure. Are you telling me the butchers are doing this always at the first time? It is not that hard to find out if you had Schockloss or overharvesing after a hairtransplant. You go to a doctor and you let him examine photos from your donor area after the procedure and now. If you scan and compare this photos via computer you now exactly the problem and what has been done. Anyway, thanks for your opinion.

I have considered that. I have a scar on the back of my head from pervious strip and that makes me not a good candidate for smp. With smp you have to shave you head literally very day to make it look natural. By shaving the head is the scar exposed.

I am not talking about extractin 2000 grafts per day with motorised punch, i am talking about manual punch. If you go to doctors like bicer or mwamba or other top doctors the can extract 2000 grafts with the motorised punch in aday without any problems. With the manual punch you need a whole day to extract 1000 grafts, if you want to do it right. That is what i have been told at least. As i said before i feel responsiple for making this decision to go to this clinic. I was naive believing all that was said to me.

I think we know each other. It is easy for you to find a patient that travelled all this way from America to turkey and got rejected from this clinic because of his Disease. I bet he had sub. Dermatitis too. Can you saw me some pictures from this patient too?

I paid for the second surgery in full. I have already written you know, i really thought i should wait after the fist surgery for the results to come.They have used 2000 grafts from beard and it can take up to 16 months for this grafts to grow. I was unhappy 6 months after the procedure but i did not believe it was a failure. I thought i should give it more time for the final result to come.

Omega5 i think we know each other. Or not?

Yes i had two procedures with 1500 (500 and 1000 grafts) grafts to cover the front and the middle part before many years. My goal was not to get a full coverage but to be able to use toppik without any problems. I was not expecting to get a full head of hair with 1500 grafts. As i told before i had a conslulting with the clinic twice before i get the procedure. The doctor knew my full history and the problem with the Dermatitis. In the area where they took the grafts and in the area where they have placed the grafts there is no sign of dermatitis. But if this is a risk factor they shoud have told me and warn me about it, the Doctor said nothing about it. I think you are missing the point here too. I am talking the whole time about what they did to the back of my head and this is permanent damage. They quoted me for 6000 grafts from the donor area, when in the reality i had an average donor area. The Doctor who did the consulting talked to me even after the procedure twice, telling me that they can even lower the hairline if i wanted to in a second procedure. I went to this clinic because i thought they were professionals and they knew what they are saying. I never thought i had to figure it out alone, how many grafts do i have available and how many procedures do i need. I have already said that i have spoken to other top doctors now and explained them what happened. Is is just impossible to take 2000-2200 grafts in 3-4 hours without a high transection rate. Even the best doctors that do manual fue they take aroung 1000 grafts in a whole day. There is a reason for that. These are not my words.

No, you don"t get this kind of results from the best in the world, only from hairmills. As i said before i have had an evaluation by three doctors by now. If you scan and compare photos from my donor area after the second operation and the surrent state, there is no schockloss going on. They have not only overharvested but most of the grafts that are left on the donor area are single grafts. I have already said, i have ekzem. or seborrheic Dermatitis behind the ears and on my face. This is a video from a doctor, recommended in this forum, who is talking about this issues. As i said before, there is no excuse and no reason, except from money, to destroy the head of somebody.

As i told before i have asked for my case three different real doctors by now. If you see the photos of my donor area after the second surgery and compare this photos with the current state of the donor area, there is no schock loss going on. My donor area is not just being overharvested, it has being destroyed. It is very hard to fix such a damage and it is not something you can hide. So, allow me to say my opinion that no real doctor but a scammer does something like this to semebody. The ethical part is that you should not hurt and permanently damage somebody who trusted you and gave you his money thinking you know what you are doing. I have no problem with your opinion, but please do not try to twist the events. Yes, it is dangerous to say that this is nothing, it is just schockloss and you should wait a little more till you get used to it. This is what scammers from other clinics in Turkey say to avoid patients.

You are right. As i have said before i am responsible too for making this decision.

As it is told to me, and you can find many videos from doctors like Bisanga saying that, when the donor area depleted is many of the blood vessels that suply this area are damaged too. The hairs that are left are not with blood well supplied and that causes this hairs to become smaller. It is their obligation to check and examine every patient before hairtransplant to see the Donor-Capacity and if there is any miniaturization. And i mean really EXAMINE the donor area, not just touching the donor area or see from behind how it looks. This is not what professionals do. How can you say you trusted these guys to perform your hairtransplant, but you don"t really know what kind of doctor operated on you? Would you be fine knowing that the doctor who operated on you, he was before unemployed in turkey and because he could not find anything else to do he started doing HT? I have questioned myself too you know and that only shows one thing, lack of research. No, o don"t take any finasterid or minoxidil now.

As i have said before i had no intentions getting a second HT. The only reason i did this, its because they lured me in. The Director of the clinic told me they can go up to 6000 grafts and i needed 2000 grafts for the front and the hairline. So, the second surgery was scheduled. My fault is that i have believed them, Unethical is when you say to somebody he has a great donor area and he should have a second procedure ending up like this. Criminal is the doctor that destroys your donor area, giving you a much bigger problem than you had before, just to get some money.

It gets worse over time brcause the new hairs that grow there have a smaller diameter. That is not said by me, but from one of the top doctors that are recommended here. The multiple grafts on the hairline are the kind of work they did to me. How do you know everything about the kind of work they are doing every day? i have asked you before, the doctor that operated on you is he a Dermatologist or a plastic surgeon?

I have high expectations that i wanted to look normal after a hairtransplant? I have spoken to 3 different doctors by now and they all told me that a depleted donor area like mine is very hard to fix, this is permanent damage and Disfiguration and you are telling me this is ok, not botched? I have already said that with the time it has only gotten worse, the guys from the HLC told me that i had to wait for 6 months, but you know better. As i have written before they have implanted multiple grafts on the hairline with wrong angles, that is why i have cutted my hair short. And it has not gotten any better. I think i have every good reason to believe that these doctors are more than scammers, they are criminals. Do you know anything about the doctor who operated you there? Is he a Dermatologist? Is he a plastic surgeon?

How does this looks to you for a donor area after 6,5 months?. With the time it has only gotten worse. What do you think that this is?

And you are dangerous too.