15-20k budget for 2k grafts in US... suggestions?

[omgcorey]

Greetings!

I started 1mg finasteride about 2 years ago to slow the process of my receding hairline. Since then, I have saved up as much as I could to compensate for a proper HT. Most recently, I've been lurking the forums and doing research on the procedures and the doctors. I've concluded that I will at least be looking to stick with FUE instead of FUT.

I contacted a few doctors recently to see how many grafts I would possibly need. HLC quoted me 2600-3200 while others like Nadimi suggested 1700-2000. I will post pictures down below of what I'm working with.

I was hoping I could save enough up for Konior but unfortunately I just don't think that's going to be in my budget and after looking into Nadimi, it doesn't seem like I could go wrong with having the procedure through her while saving some money and getting very similar results. As far as HLC goes, this was my first option but after further contemplating the idea of a HT, I would much rather do it within my own country than to leave to go overseas. I don't mind paying a couple extra thousand to stay within the states and honestly the results I've seen from Nadimi looked a tad better with less harvesting of the donor area.

With that said, I'm looking to see if I can get some more suggestions or opinions on other doctors I should look at. I also should mention that I'm okay with being on a waiting list up to a year. I just want to make sure I get a great doctor that I feel confident with and can get my hairline fixed with a one and done procedure.

Thanks

[Fue3361]

I had a procedure very similar to yours (albeit 3361 grafts) and am at the 5 month mark. 

You have great hair.  If you're just looking to reduce the forehead and the temples, then you really want someone who's great at hairlines.  Personally, if I was inclined to do it in the US (which I'm not) I'd probably go with H&W (edit:  They’re Canada... my bad).  If they're good enough for Elon Musk, they're good enough for me.  Konior I think is way too expensive honestly (even though his transplants are absolutely amazing).

Edited February 3, 2022 by Fue3361

[Runitback]

Nadimi will say 1700 to 2000 even if you need 3000.  Honestly I think it’s just what she can do in a day.   I got the same estimate but I definitely could have used more.  Day of surgery I said that I definitely would pay for 2000 and ended up with 1700.   Will have to go for a second and right now if I had to decide I don’t think I’d go back.  She was also very conservative with drawing hairline.  Overall experience was fine but not sure I can say that paying those prices provided any extra value, except location.   

[Sean]

Honestly, the lesser the grafts the safer.  It all depends on your hair caliber and density and what the doctor is able to extract in terms of hair groupings within those grafts.  Will it be lots of ones twos or threes etc?  You just do not know until the extractions occur.

my scalp was put at risk and was damaged due to a 3000+ grafts high density frontal session in one day via FUE and due to inexperienced extractions.  I am suffering today as a repair patient in need of repair as a result of the entire ordeal.

I’d get multiple opinions from various doctors.  If Canada, the best ones seem to be Hasson & Wong.  Dr De Freitas, Dr Keser in Turkey may be other good ones to add for consult as well.  You need to go to a hairline specialist that really excels in the lateral slit technique.  That produces the most natural results and gives the area a true artistic natural feel.  The doctor also must be ethical as well and not leave you hanging.  Best wishes.
 

 

[aaron1234]

Lots of great names above, but also check out Dr. Ron Shapiro and Dr. Josephitis at Shapiro Medical Group (SMG) in Minneapolis.

[hockeyman]

Not sure about his pricing but check out Dr. Cooley

[BDK081522]

Add Gabel to your list as well. 

[JoeMan]

The truth is your money will be better spent in Europe. I was also stretching my budget trying to stay in the US. If you stay in the US with that budget you'll either get less work done or likely a lower quality Dr. In Europe with this budget, you can easily go to Dr. De Freitas, Dr. Ferreira or others that are considered top Dr's. I know it's scary having surgery in another country but these Dr's are professionals and likely most of their clients travel to them. I would reconsider Europe. If you want the best Dr you can afford, leave the US. US is too expensive unless you have money to burn. 

[Melvin- Admin]

Take a look at the forums recommended surgeons, each has been vetted and approved by our community as a collective based on results. 
 

https://www.hairtransplantnetwork.com/Consult-a-Physician/hair-transplant-surgeons.asp?sr=HRN-MOB

[Z--]

11 hours ago, Sean said:

Honestly, the lesser the grafts the safer.  It all depends on your hair caliber and density and what the doctor is able to extract in terms of hair groupings within those grafts.  Will it be lots of ones twos or threes etc?  You just do not know until the extractions occur.

my scalp was put at risk and was damaged due to a 3000+ grafts high density frontal session in one day via FUE and due to inexperienced extractions.  I am suffering today as a repair patient in need of repair as a result of the entire ordeal.

I’d get multiple opinions from various doctors.  If Canada, the best ones seem to be Hasson & Wong.  Dr De Freitas, Dr Keser in Turkey may be other good ones to add for consult as well.  You need to go to a hairline specialist that really excels in the lateral slit technique.  That produces the most natural results and gives the area a true artistic natural feel.  The doctor also must be ethical as well and not leave you hanging.  Best wishes.
 

 

Sean is correct. It's possible to do one large session -- and many people do to great success here -- but it's always a risk. Think doing something like doing multiple 2,500 seems like a sweet spot for truly high NW (which you don't appear to be though), as ensuring each graft grows in is important. You'll have a better sense of how it grows in as well, but it's also understandable that it may be frustrating having to go through the process 2+ times. H&W are good and do large sessions. Gabel is great from what I've heard in the U.S. too. Think you might be able to knock it out in one go.

Edited February 4, 2022 by Z--

[Hair Transplant Reality YT]

On 2/3/2022 at 4:47 AM, Fue3361 said:

I had a procedure very similar to yours (albeit 3361 grafts) and am at the 5 month mark. 

You have great hair.  If you're just looking to reduce the forehead and the temples, then you really want someone who's great at hairlines.  Personally, if I was inclined to do it in the US (which I'm not) I'd probably go with H&W (edit:  They’re Canada... my bad).  If they're good enough for Elon Musk, they're good enough for me.  Konior I think is way too expensive honestly (even though his transplants are absolutely amazing).

I have to agree with you dr K Is awesome but to expensive Dr Panine is local of Chicago and in my opinion as good or better he also he did my hair transplants, you can see my one year results here  is a link I had way more loss than you and he did 2650 grafts... Hassan and wong was my second choice as long as these drs are the ones your looking into then that tells me you have done good research and found quality drs I look forward to seeing which dr you do and the results! 

 

[Hair Transplant Reality YT]

23 hours ago, Z-- said:

Sean is correct. It's possible to do one large session -- and many people do to great success here -- but it's always a risk. Think doing something like doing multiple 2,500 seems like a sweet spot for truly high NW (which you don't appear to be though), as ensuring each graft grows in is important. You'll have a better sense of how it grows in as well, but it's also understandable that it may be frustrating having to go through the process 2+ times. H&W are good and do large sessions. Gabel is great from what I've heard in the U.S. too. Think you might be able to knock it out in one go.

agreed unless you have a top 1% dr going past 3000 grafts is risky to say the least... also ultra dense pack isn't always smart if you have future hairloss to come better to do multiple sessions as you lose hair so you can ensure the end goal is overall looking great

[Hair Transplant Reality YT]

On 2/3/2022 at 2:40 PM, JoeMan said:

The truth is your money will be better spent in Europe. I was also stretching my budget trying to stay in the US. If you stay in the US with that budget you'll either get less work done or likely a lower quality Dr. In Europe with this budget, you can easily go to Dr. De Freitas, Dr. Ferreira or others that are considered top Dr's. I know it's scary having surgery in another country but these Dr's are professionals and likely most of their clients travel to them. I would reconsider Europe. If you want the best Dr you can afford, leave the US. US is too expensive unless you have money to burn. 

hmm there is something to be said for travel and there are great drs everywhere but you need to be extremely careful of sales tactics, ensuring its a dr that has done 500+ surgeries himself  that the dr only does 1 patient per day, and is able to give 3+ past clients to you as referrals to call and talk to I have many other qualifications but these first few help stop you getting stuck with a ht farming company that won't be invested in your success.... in the end I think money is less important than having a dr you can call and talk to anytime your concerned and one that does quarterly check ups on you! the service and trust you have in the dr will keep your mind at ease through the first few months and first year as results grow in.... no money is worth being scared it failed for 5 months thats just torment. again the right dr is everything!

[JoeMan]

30 minutes ago, Hair Transplant Reality YT said:

hmm there is something to be said for travel and there are great drs everywhere but you need to be extremely careful of sales tactics, ensuring its a dr that has done 500+ surgeries himself  that the dr only does 1 patient per day, and is able to give 3+ past clients to you as referrals to call and talk to I have many other qualifications but these first few help stop you getting stuck with a ht farming company that won't be invested in your success.... in the end I think money is less important than having a dr you can call and talk to anytime your concerned and one that does quarterly check ups on you! the service and trust you have in the dr will keep your mind at ease through the first few months and first year as results grow in.... no money is worth being scared it failed for 5 months thats just torment. again the right dr is everything!

Obviously I wasn't referring to a hair mill. I even referenced top European Dr's in his price range. Many others too of course. I was just stating that in Europe his budget will definitely get him a top Dr. In the US, the prices are higher and likely he won't see a top Dr for 20k unless he stays on the lower end for grafts. If he really needs 3200 grafts I think he's going to bust his budget with a top US Dr. You referred to no amount of money can be substituted for a good Dr. Reality is that not everyone has the money required for top US Dr's where rates can be double and triple European prices for the same quality Dr's. 

[Hair Transplant Reality YT]

1 hour ago, JoeMan said:

Obviously I wasn't referring to a hair mill. I even referenced top European Dr's in his price range. Many others too of course. I was just stating that in Europe his budget will definitely get him a top Dr. In the US, the prices are higher and likely he won't see a top Dr for 20k unless he stays on the lower end for grafts. If he really needs 3200 grafts I think he's going to bust his budget with a top US Dr. You referred to no amount of money can be substituted for a good Dr. Reality is that not everyone has the money required for top US Dr's where rates can be double and triple European prices for the same quality Dr's. 

oops sorry didn't get to that but his budgets pretty good 15-20k could get him several top drs that I can think of for his graft needs.... at 5-6 a graft that means 2500 grafts is 12.5k-15k  and for 3500 grafts 17.5k-21k ... to drs in the Usa that can do these prices obviously I can from personal experience say dr panine in Chicago and side note for him If you go in for 2000 or 2500 for first surgery hes known for grabbing extra100-300 grafts  to ensure best results with out charging any difference... for example my first surgery at 15k usd was for 2500 grafts I got 2650 the second surgery was the same 2500 graft but I got 2800 grafts... so 5450 grafts  at a charge of 30k would have cost 3k more  Hassan and wong I believe is 6 a graft in Canada and I think an office in Seattle  there are several other great drs that are in same price range... I am not familiar with European pricing I'll check the people you listed out I love to learn more about everything in the industry ... to clarify my original statement was really just because some people dont pay attention (not you) but other readers may just look at our convo and look up drs over seas see a good price and be like Nice lets do that and not follow the simple rules to avoid a mistake....

 

im no dr but he may be able to do 2500 grafts with a dr get 100-300 extra free be at the low end of his money spend  and wait a year to see how it looks saving donor area and then choosing how greedy to get with density because a good dr may be able to make him look great at 2500-2800 grafts depending on expectations max density is rarely possible in single session based on our hopes and dreams 

[omgcorey]

I contacted H&W as well as Dr. De Freitas. I'm in no rush as I am more concerned with the quality and it just allows me more time to save up more money. I want to make sure I get the best as this will change my day to day life and give me a lot more confidence as I'm sure it has everyone else.

I can potentially see this helping me out in many factors of life. If I have more confidence, I will have more courage to do things I didn't have which could ultimately help me in many areas of my life including my career. Peace of mind is just as important as the results. I know if I were to spend the extra money on Dr. K, or any other top notch doctor, that it would give me the peace of mind knowing I got the best and not having to wonder if it could have been better.

I will continue to research and contact these doctors to see who works the best with me.

Other than that, I've noticed i have a decent amount of grey hair in my donor area. Do they navigate around the grey hair to ensure they don't implement any of them? I'm not sure I have seen anybody talk about this aspect of it.

[JoeMan]

Sounds like you have a good plan. I'd look at Dr. Basinga as well. Your definitely looking at top Dr's and that's what matters most. Good luck!

[Hair Transplant Reality YT]

On 2/4/2022 at 8:44 PM, omgcorey said:

I contacted H&W as well as Dr. De Freitas. I'm in no rush as I am more concerned with the quality and it just allows me more time to save up more money. I want to make sure I get the best as this will change my day to day life and give me a lot more confidence as I'm sure it has everyone else.

I can potentially see this helping me out in many factors of life. If I have more confidence, I will have more courage to do things I didn't have which could ultimately help me in many areas of my life including my career. Peace of mind is just as important as the results. I know if I were to spend the extra money on Dr. K, or any other top notch doctor, that it would give me the peace of mind knowing I got the best and not having to wonder if it could have been better.

I will continue to research and contact these doctors to see who works the best with me.

Other than that, I've noticed i have a decent amount of grey hair in my donor area. Do they navigate around the grey hair to ensure they don't implement any of them? I'm not sure I have seen anybody talk about this aspect of it.

I agree with @JoeMan you have a great plan I wish everyone thought about the surgeries they are going to get the way you did and took time to research more . you have a great plan I know you will have an amazing result im excited for you! please share your results when you do go  as for the confidence situation I know this will help greatly if you'd like to talk to me in private message me I know some overall business/ psych techniques that will at the start will be hard but I promise it will make you a confident person before the hair comes in and when it does you will just be a super star! 

 

to answer the grey hairs question ima assume it depends on the dr but no harm in being a silver fox women dig it and you can dye it later...