Senior Member mmokin Posted February 24, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted February 24, 2022 On 2/19/2022 at 6:27 AM, tressful11 said: Are the scars visible if you shave your chest? I am considering this repair option for my decimated donor and visible scars is my biggest concern. Don't want small holes on my chest. The scars heal better on chest than scalp, the skin is much more elastic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member mustang Posted February 24, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted February 24, 2022 I have yet to develop a scar on my chest or beard and have had thousands extracted. It just doesn't happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted February 24, 2022 Administrators Share Posted February 24, 2022 7 hours ago, mmokin said: The scars heal better on chest than scalp, the skin is much more elastic Yes, this is true. My beard has no visible scars. I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Britanium Posted February 24, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted February 24, 2022 1 hour ago, mustang said: I have yet to develop a scar on my chest or beard and have had thousands extracted. It just doesn't happen. 5 minutes ago, Melvin- Moderator said: Yes, this is true. My beard has no visible scars. I like hearing this 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member gimpoli Posted March 5, 2022 Author Regular Member Share Posted March 5, 2022 Hey guys, long time coming I know so apologies for the delay. So I'm now about 7 months since my last (second) repair job with Mwamba. The photos are WITHOUT Toppik of course, and apologies if the light isn't great. As you can all tell from the first set, hair has come on massively since the epic botch job took place in 2019. Mwamba is literally a saint. I have a low fade hair cut so the lack of volume in parts of the donor isn't really a big deal. I've also had a couple of SMP treatments and that seems to extra help with the appearance of volume if you keep your hair short and tidy. As you see, on the upper sides there's still some density lacking and Toppik does a great job at masking those parts. I do admittedly rely on it, and because I have diffuse thinning (even before a HTP) it's a friggin' savior. During my second I tried to add more density there, but obviously the chest hair quality isn't quite up to scratch and several just aren't sticking. That being said, I am happy with the result now, isn't a Toppik overload, takes me about 20 seconds a day to do. I just keep it cut once a week or so. The hair on top I am happy with. Still a more the average visible crown, but the HTPs (especially Mwamba ofc) definitely has helped there, now it doesn't look that bad at all. Have a good day all, and for those with decimated donor areas, body hair DOES WORK! It saved my self-esteem and I have Mwamba to thank. You won't regret going with this whiz! Was well worth traveling over and getting it done RIGHT! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Britanium Posted March 5, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted March 5, 2022 Looking absolutely fantastic! 💥 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Icicle Posted March 5, 2022 Regular Member Share Posted March 5, 2022 @gimpoliAre you on medication, does the dr recommend you take it or was that your own choice if so and how many body hair grafts did you add to your donor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member gimpoli Posted March 5, 2022 Author Regular Member Share Posted March 5, 2022 No meds at all. Mwamba didn't even recommend I do. That includes applying any creams or sprays. No minoxidil, nothing. I think my hair thinning on top has pretty much stopped. Think I had aggravated hair loss from stress/gym nutrition and doing a better job these days to stop taking dodgy pills and manage stress. The donor area still isn't great I know but why I have a 0 low fade, and really short hair on the back and sides. This was taken before I just went for a chop. Less obvious the thin donor the shorter it is I think. That said, look at the front sides of my donor area. That was never touched. I just have a natural thin hair type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Icicle Posted March 5, 2022 Regular Member Share Posted March 5, 2022 1 minute ago, gimpoli said: No meds at all. Mwamba didn't even recommend I do. That includes applying any creams or sprays. No minoxidil, nothing. I think my hair thinning on top has pretty much stopped. Think I had aggravated hair loss from stress/gym nutrition and doing a better job these days to stop taking dodgy pills and manage stress. The donor area still isn't great I know but why I have a 0 low fade, and really short hair on the back and sides. This was taken before I just went for a chop. Less obvious the thin donor the shorter it is I think. That said, look at the front sides of my donor area. That was never touched. I just have a natural thin hair type. Did he mention why no meds? Because I am in talks with one of his consultants regarding donor restocking and he said they will prescribe me meds to ensure my body hair grows richly on my head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member gimpoli Posted March 5, 2022 Author Regular Member Share Posted March 5, 2022 Hmmm, I guess it depends per case. He likes to prescribe his protein shakes, I took them for a while but stopped. Also hair vitamins, but I don't take anything for hair now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Icicle Posted March 5, 2022 Regular Member Share Posted March 5, 2022 Thanks for the info. Are you not worried about the future of your hair? I’m o my asking because I myself am worried about taking meds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member gimpoli Posted March 5, 2022 Author Regular Member Share Posted March 5, 2022 Not worried anymore. Been through enough of these things. If it keeps going south, I will just stick to number 1s/2s all over. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted March 7, 2022 Administrators Share Posted March 7, 2022 Wow it’s looking fantastic already 👏🏼 I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member gimpoli Posted March 8, 2022 Author Regular Member Share Posted March 8, 2022 I actually had a better look today with double mirrors and I actually feel I have gone a little bit south. Not sure the second body hair transplant had much of an effect. Still very reliant on the Toppik for the upper sides, and the donor area at the back still very spacey/holey, obviously a demolished donor even when short. I am going to talk to Mwamba again and see if I can fix the donor even potentially at the expense of some of the good quality hairs on top. I'm less pleased today then I was before and will maybe back-track on my 1s and 2s all over. Still seems a bit premature, but will talk to him in case I have options. Moral of the story: get a HTP right (and sparing graft wise) the first time, but if you have suffered a bad job, there are options. It'll never be perfect again though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member gimpoli Posted March 8, 2022 Author Regular Member Share Posted March 8, 2022 And to further, I had an SMP but don't think it really stayed. Not seeing much help filling in the holes from that, so might need a re-touch up. Unfortunate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Etownone Posted March 8, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted March 8, 2022 1 hour ago, gimpoli said: I actually had a better look today with double mirrors and I actually feel I have gone a little bit south. Not sure the second body hair transplant had much of an effect. Still very reliant on the Toppik for the upper sides, and the donor area at the back still very spacey/holey, obviously a demolished donor even when short. I am going to talk to Mwamba again and see if I can fix the donor even potentially at the expense of some of the good quality hairs on top. I'm less pleased today then I was before and will maybe back-track on my 1s and 2s all over. Still seems a bit premature, but will talk to him in case I have options. Moral of the story: get a HTP right (and sparing graft wise) the first time, but if you have suffered a bad job, there are options. It'll never be perfect again though. Why would you want to fix your donor area at the expense of your hairs in top? I also went to Dr Mwamba and he did a repair job in my donor area, using beard and nape hair. I already notice a huge difference in my problem area and it's only been 5 weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted March 8, 2022 Administrators Share Posted March 8, 2022 6 hours ago, gimpoli said: I actually had a better look today with double mirrors and I actually feel I have gone a little bit south. Not sure the second body hair transplant had much of an effect. Still very reliant on the Toppik for the upper sides, and the donor area at the back still very spacey/holey, obviously a demolished donor even when short. I am going to talk to Mwamba again and see if I can fix the donor even potentially at the expense of some of the good quality hairs on top. I'm less pleased today then I was before and will maybe back-track on my 1s and 2s all over. Still seems a bit premature, but will talk to him in case I have options. Moral of the story: get a HTP right (and sparing graft wise) the first time, but if you have suffered a bad job, there are options. It'll never be perfect again though. Doing it right the first time is so important. I didn’t do it right the first time until I found this community. 1 I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member gimpoli Posted March 8, 2022 Author Regular Member Share Posted March 8, 2022 7 hours ago, Etownone said: Why would you want to fix your donor area at the expense of your hairs in top? I also went to Dr Mwamba and he did a repair job in my donor area, using beard and nape hair. I already notice a huge difference in my problem area and it's only been 5 weeks. That's really awesome to hear. In hindsight I think the effects were more spectacular from just my first, but of course I wanted more. I am wondering now if by doing my second I've actually provoked the loss of more hairs than I've gained. Sometimes when you're quite happy with a result you should probably leave it there. Would be interesting to hear @mustang's opinion on this. Generally I thought it had massively improved, it has, but I saw the back well today in the mirror and it seems to have randomly deteriorated. Not sure why that would be. I will keep the group posted but still 100% recommend Mwamaba and am definitely not trying to create doubt. My donor is 100 x better thanks to him. But it'll never be perfect. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member gimpoli Posted April 16, 2022 Author Regular Member Share Posted April 16, 2022 I wanted to follow up on this post. As everyone knows I wasn't as happy with the last session somehow. @mustangreminded me that what had probably actually happened was the previous SMP had faded. There's a good chance he was right and when I went back for another session of SMP (so damn painful) it once again improved the donor appearance, particularly when the hair is shorter (0-1 grade). I have actually decided to book another day with Mwamba for 500 grafts in July, @mustangagain, valuable in making my decision. This time I might extract from the beard, coarser hair to sit on the top sections that hair never seemed to 'settle on'. I am wondering if in some places, hair just doesn't settle well (or pigment as in SMP, for that matter) on scar tissue. I know everyone is different and for some it grows out perfectly. Obviously there's less blood supply to a scar so the hair may just fall out. I really hope my next session is more successful but it's definitely good to combine. Get the HTP reparation first and then SMP. I think it really needs 2-3 SMP sessions to get results. Attaching photos PRE SMP and why I decided to go for a third repairation with Mwamba. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member RTC Posted April 16, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted April 16, 2022 Overall, how much better do you think the donor area is with the Mwamba repair sessions and excluding the SMP? This is a procedure I am looking to have done also to repair my botched donor area 1 Hattingen September 2023 - Punchouts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member HairRun Posted April 16, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted April 16, 2022 Been seeing a ton of fantastic work out of this guy. Will be strongly considering in the the future Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member mustang Posted April 16, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted April 16, 2022 12 hours ago, gimpoli said: I wanted to follow up on this post. As everyone knows I wasn't as happy with the last session somehow. @mustangreminded me that what had probably actually happened was the previous SMP had faded. There's a good chance he was right and when I went back for another session of SMP (so damn painful) it once again improved the donor appearance, particularly when the hair is shorter (0-1 grade). I have actually decided to book another day with Mwamba for 500 grafts in July, @mustangagain, valuable in making my decision. This time I might extract from the beard, coarser hair to sit on the top sections that hair never seemed to 'settle on'. I am wondering if in some places, hair just doesn't settle well (or pigment as in SMP, for that matter) on scar tissue. I know everyone is different and for some it grows out perfectly. Obviously there's less blood supply to a scar so the hair may just fall out. I really hope my next session is more successful but it's definitely good to combine. Get the HTP reparation first and then SMP. I think it really needs 2-3 SMP sessions to get results. Attaching photos PRE SMP and why I decided to go for a third repairation with Mwamba. Glad to be of help, make sure Dr Mwamba knows I sent you, I might get a little discount jeje I think you need less than 500 man, maybe 200 per side max. I am going for another pass next week for 500 and another SMP pass as well soon It's addictive to keep improving the donor although nobody can tell I ever had surgery and I have had over 11.000 grafts removed from a pretty standard donor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member graft81 Posted April 23, 2022 Regular Member Share Posted April 23, 2022 Where did you get the smp? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member gimpoli Posted April 23, 2022 Author Regular Member Share Posted April 23, 2022 From a woman called Dayana who works out of Marbella/Estepona in Spain. Dayana Abreu on Linkedin. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member gimpoli Posted November 21, 2022 Author Regular Member Share Posted November 21, 2022 Hey everyone. Long time since my last update. I went AGAIN for another round with Mwamba in July 2022. 4 months later and the results are GREAT. This time he took mostly beard (and more chest) units. I am happy with how things are now. That, combined with oral minoxidil tabs, a good laser cap, things are fantastic. I feel like I am basically restored, even though I keep a short back and sides, no concerns or self-consciousness. Guy is a legend, trust in him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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