norwoodreaper Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 Hey everyone, I've researched this to death but want to make sure I have this correct. From what I've found, you do not lose transplanted hair. But people still take fin, why? Is it so they don't lose the remaining hair they have left? Is there any way to tell when the balding phase stops? (If it ever does) Are those who do not take fin the ones that have multiple hair transplants to fix this issue down the line? Little bit about me just in case anyone's curious. I'm not sure if I'm diffuse thinning or balding. Norwood 2 on hairline and between 3 and 4 for crown. I'm considering going to Turkey to get a hair transplant, willing to spend 5k-10k. But I absolutely do not want to get on fin. I do not want to risk it. I think I'll just wait till I'm 30+ (right now 28) to do a hair transplant to see what's left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted January 6, 2021 Administrators Share Posted January 6, 2021 Is fin required? No, is it preferred? Yes. Kind of a long video on my experience but I touch on why 2 I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member UnbaldEagle Posted January 6, 2021 Senior Member Share Posted January 6, 2021 37 minutes ago, norwoodreaper said: I'm considering going to Turkey to get a hair transplant, willing to spend 5k-10k. But I absolutely do not want to get on fin. I do not want to risk it. I think I'll just wait till I'm 30+ (right now 28) to do a hair transplant to see what's left. Hope you do your research on both though.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwoodreaper Posted January 7, 2021 Author Share Posted January 7, 2021 Thanks for the video, will watch later! 15 minutes ago, UnbaldEagle said: Hope you do your research on both though.. I dont know if it's just people who had sides post online or what but it seems much more than the % reported. Judging by your name, im guessing youre on it? As for turkey. Hair of istanbul is what i will prob go with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Britanium Posted January 7, 2021 Senior Member Share Posted January 7, 2021 (edited) 16 minutes ago, norwoodreaper said: Thanks for the video, will watch later! I dont know if it's just people who had sides post online or what but it seems much more than the % reported. Judging by your name, im guessing youre on it? As for turkey. Hair of istanbul is what i will prob go with. Please keep researching the clinics! Hair of Istanbul is not a top clinic. Infact there is a very poor recent result. Im not a person who would say avoid Turkey. But I would urge you to look at other Clincs/Drs. I could suggest some better choices. If your open to Europe then you have a even better list of possibles ! Edited January 7, 2021 by JohnAC71 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member UnbaldEagle Posted January 7, 2021 Senior Member Share Posted January 7, 2021 2 minutes ago, norwoodreaper said: Thanks for the video, will watch later! I dont know if it's just people who had sides post online or what but it seems much more than the % reported. Judging by your name, im guessing youre on it? As for turkey. Hair of istanbul is what i will prob go with. No, I agree, it's probably more than the % reported. But why not try it first and see if you're one of those? It's not the best idea to have a HT without preventive measures, unless of course you have a good plan for the future, such as knowing where you're headed in the Norwood cemetery and whether you have a good quality donor or not. Also knowing you're going to a good clinic, etc. And Hair of Instanbul is not one of those. 😕 Just search this forum for a few horror stories. Please don't be deceived by their fake instagram. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Britanium Posted January 7, 2021 Senior Member Share Posted January 7, 2021 Just for example, some names I do consider doing good work in Turkey are: Dr Pekiner, HLC and Dr Bicer. Or if you open up the search to Europe then you could consider: Dr Bisanga @Raphael84, Vertex clinic @DrTBarghouthi or HDC @Doron Harati Those are just some suggestions, you can research plenty of others: https://www.hairtransplantnetwork.com/Consult-a-Physician/hair-transplant-surgeons.asp?sr=HRN-MOB 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwoodreaper Posted January 7, 2021 Author Share Posted January 7, 2021 4 minutes ago, JohnAC71 said: Please keep researching the clinics! Hair of Istanbul is not top clinic. Infact there is a very poor recent result. Im not a person which would say avoid Turkey. But I would urge you to look at other Clincs/Drs. I could suggest some better choices. If your open to Europe then you have a even better list of possibles ! I was judging off my friends experience but now you got me thinking. Im open to suggestions. I did look at HLC too. Any idea on pricing? Id think europe is more expensive. 3 minutes ago, UnbaldEagle said: No, I agree, it's probably more than the % reported. But why not try it first and see if you're one of those? It's not the best idea to have a HT without preventive measures, unless of course you have a good plan for the future, such as knowing where you're headed in the Norwood cemetery and whether you have a good quality donor or not. Also knowing you're going to a good clinic, etc. And Hair of Instanbul is not one of those. 😕 Just search this forum for a few horror stories. Please don't be deceived by their fake instagram. Honestly, im scared of the sides. And it potentially chemically castrating me sides are permanent. I know thats a smaller percent but still. Is there anyway to get blood tests to determine how your body will react to fin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Britanium Posted January 7, 2021 Senior Member Share Posted January 7, 2021 You mentioned of having a budget of between 5-10k? What currency? You can look at the names I mentioned above and consult with them. They will give you more accurate pricing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwoodreaper Posted January 7, 2021 Author Share Posted January 7, 2021 USD, thanks for the suggestions. Ill look into them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Britanium Posted January 7, 2021 Senior Member Share Posted January 7, 2021 Your welcome ! Let us know how your continued research is going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member JohnBob Posted January 7, 2021 Senior Member Share Posted January 7, 2021 1 hour ago, Melvin-Moderator said: Is fin required? No, is it preferred? Yes. Kind of a long video on my experience but I touch on why It's a pity you had sides with fina. People with similar hair loss pattern as you are usually the best responders to meds. Have you thought about trying topical fin or duta? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Future Hair Doc Posted January 7, 2021 Senior Member Share Posted January 7, 2021 Chances of having side effects on oral finasteride are 5%. If you don't want to risk it, just use a combo of topical finasteride/minoxidil. I use Morr F and have had 2 FUTs and it works well for me. You won't get side effects on the topical solution. The reason you see more people complaining about finasteride is that people report negative side effects and for people who don't have any side effects, they usually don't post about it. 1 My advice does not constitute a patient-physician relationship nor as medical advice and all medical questions/concerns should be addressed to your medical provider. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted January 7, 2021 Administrators Share Posted January 7, 2021 17 hours ago, JohnBob said: It's a pity you had sides with fina. People with similar hair loss pattern as you are usually the best responders to meds. Have you thought about trying topical fin or duta? Nah, most of my hair is transplanted, it’s not worth the risk. I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member MachoVato Posted January 7, 2021 Senior Member Share Posted January 7, 2021 6 hours ago, Dr. Suhail Khokhar said: Chances of having side effects on oral finasteride are 5%. If you don't want to risk it, just use a combo of topical finasteride/minoxidil. I use Morr F and have had 2 FUTs and it works well for me. You won't get side effects on the topical solution. The reason you see more people complaining about finasteride is that people report negative side effects and for people who don't have any side effects, they usually don't post about it. Like many others, I have a Proscar Rx. For years I used to split into 4 pieces and take 1.25mg per day. But I was getting sides. Lower sex drive, difficulty with erections and even with the blue pill I still had difficulty "finishing" during intercourse. Right now, I'm taking 1.25mg twice per week. Sides have subsided some but I think I'm one of those people that shouldn't be taking it. I've ordered a 6-month supply of a topical fin/min combo, Maxogen-X. Looks like they are sold out at the moment but this is the product HLC recommended. I'm already using Rogaine foam so I'll be able to replace that with Maxogen. HLC Ankara | 4261 Grafts | Nov 7, 2020 (Hairline) Dr. Bisanga, BHR Clinic in Brussels | 1528 Grafts | Aug 12, 2021 (Crown and Temples) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwoodreaper Posted January 8, 2021 Author Share Posted January 8, 2021 13 hours ago, Dr. Suhail Khokhar said: Chances of having side effects on oral finasteride are 5%. If you don't want to risk it, just use a combo of topical finasteride/minoxidil. I use Morr F and have had 2 FUTs and it works well for me. You won't get side effects on the topical solution. The reason you see more people complaining about finasteride is that people report negative side effects and for people who don't have any side effects, they usually don't post about it. Topical doesn't have sides? Why aren't more people using this then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Future Hair Doc Posted January 8, 2021 Senior Member Share Posted January 8, 2021 8 hours ago, norwoodreaper said: Topical doesn't have sides? Why aren't more people using this then? It's becoming more popular. But that's just based on my own observation. My advice does not constitute a patient-physician relationship nor as medical advice and all medical questions/concerns should be addressed to your medical provider. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member JohnBob Posted January 8, 2021 Senior Member Share Posted January 8, 2021 I read in a thread here that there are some docs (eg. Couto) that will only operate you if you promise them you will use finasteride for the rest of your life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member ciaus Posted January 9, 2021 Senior Member Share Posted January 9, 2021 2 hours ago, JohnBob said: I read in a thread here that there are some docs (eg. Couto) that will only operate you if you promise them you will use finasteride for the rest of your life. That makes sense and is ethical if we're talking about borderline candidates for hair transplants with aggressive hair loss patterns and less than optimal donor reserves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwoodreaper Posted April 21, 2021 Author Share Posted April 21, 2021 I'm back. I'm planning to go to a hair consultation by the end of the week or next week. I've decided to just stick to the US, more specifically in the city I live for a HT. I don't feel like traveling overseas for a hair transplant and besides I imagine I'll have to do this again. I found a couple places near me, one I'm looking at specifically. I don't see any clinics mentioned here for the city I live in (Kansas City). So I might be taking a gamble, iunno. My hair has gotten progressively thinner though, my hairline isn't receding too bad but when you look the top of my hair under lighting... you can see the majority of my scalp. My crown already has a noticeable bald spot. Idk what norwood scale I am, maybe 3 but idk with all the thinning? I took a video in sunlight might post here if people want to see. What would be the proper section to ask about clinics in KC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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