Senior Member Westview Posted December 30, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted December 30, 2020 Lets say you had 3,000 grafts transplanted on your scalp. And you then transplant another 3,000 grafts in the exact same region. Does the 2nd hair transplant take longer to grow than 1st hair transplant?? I heard this from 2 different people but I'm not sure if its true or not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Britanium Posted December 30, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted December 30, 2020 8 minutes ago, Westview said: Lets say you had 3,000 grafts transplanted on your scalp. And you then transplant another 3,000 grafts in the exact same region. Does the 2nd hair transplant take longer to grow than 1st hair transplant?? I heard this from 2 different people but I'm not sure if its true or not Ok so my x2 FUTs grew exactly the same. And again when I had x3 FUE. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Westview Posted December 30, 2020 Author Senior Member Share Posted December 30, 2020 10 minutes ago, JohnAC71 said: Ok so my x2 FUTs grew exactly the same. And again when I had x3 FUE. Excellent!! Good to hear. I hope my 2nd one does the same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Britanium Posted December 30, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted December 30, 2020 It’s my crown that always takes longer! I can honestly say up to 18 months each time. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member DenverBuff1989 Posted December 30, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted December 30, 2020 43 minutes ago, JohnAC71 said: It’s my crown that always takes longer! I can honestly say up to 18 months each time. ive heard this before about the crown. can you please explain why the crown takes longer? in your personal experience at what month did hair growth start in the crown, and when did it end? thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member UnbaldEagle Posted December 30, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted December 30, 2020 (edited) This is my 2nd HT and I can already feel my darling buds anxious to be sprouting. I asked them and they all unanimously said not long now. 😍 I don't think it'll take longer than your 1st transplant. Edited December 30, 2020 by UnbaldEagle 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Westview Posted December 30, 2020 Author Senior Member Share Posted December 30, 2020 39 minutes ago, DenverBuff1989 said: ive heard this before about the crown. can you please explain why the crown takes longer? in your personal experience at what month did hair growth start in the crown, and when did it end? thanks. Its because the front of your scalp has a lot more bloodflow than the crown 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Captain Haddock Posted December 30, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted December 30, 2020 21 minutes ago, Westview said: Its because the front of your scalp has a lot more bloodflow than the crown Wonder if inclined headstands for a few minutes everyday would make any difference. 1 My Journey: NW2 @Eugenix | 1388 Graft Frontal Restoration | Dr. Arika Bansal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member deitel130 Posted December 31, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted December 31, 2020 I believe for the front and mid scalp it varies. Most likely depends on blood flow, though I wonder if Minoxidil applied to the crown helps. Perhaps the amount of scarring from the first HT also plays a role. Some people heal quicker and with less scarring so I don't think it can ever be the same timeline for every person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member aaron1234 Posted December 31, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted December 31, 2020 All of my HT's grew in at roughly the same rate. Though I've heard that subsequent procedures make take longer to fill in that wasn't really the case for me. 1 Dr. G: 1,000 grafts (FUT) 2008 Dr. Paul Shapiro: 2,348 grafts (FUT) 2009 ~ 1,999 grafts (FUT) 2011 ~ 300 grafts (Scar Reduction) 2013 Dr. Konior: 771 grafts (FUT) 2015 ~ 558 grafts (FUT) 2017 ~ 1,124 grafts (FUE) 2020 My Hair Transplant Journey with Shapiro Medical Group Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Westview Posted December 31, 2020 Author Senior Member Share Posted December 31, 2020 (edited) Just curious but exactly when did you guys notice the the first hairs coming through?? Was it during the 2nd and 3rd month, or was it after 3 months?? Edited December 31, 2020 by Westview Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Britanium Posted December 31, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted December 31, 2020 Always after 3 months for me. Never was a fast grower like some. 😀 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member DenverBuff1989 Posted December 31, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted December 31, 2020 47 minutes ago, Westview said: Just curious but exactly when did you guys notice the the first hairs coming through?? Was it during the 2nd and 3rd month, or was it after 3 months?? For my first 2 HT's, I noticed visible hair growth at 4 months, almost on the dot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Westview Posted December 31, 2020 Author Senior Member Share Posted December 31, 2020 I've heard of rare cases where some guys saw growth at 2.5 months 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Britanium Posted December 31, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted December 31, 2020 Just now, Westview said: I've heard of rare cases where some guys saw growth at 2.5 months Just as rare are the non shedders 👌 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member DenverBuff1989 Posted December 31, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted December 31, 2020 Just now, Westview said: I've heard of rare cases where some guys saw growth at 2.5 months there are some guys who never even shed. i dont know the thread offhand but some 28 yr old saw Dr. Reddy in the UK and the vast majority -if not all- of his transplant hair just never shed. I think he's at 6 months or so now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Westview Posted December 31, 2020 Author Senior Member Share Posted December 31, 2020 Lucky bastard 😕 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Westview Posted December 31, 2020 Author Senior Member Share Posted December 31, 2020 And one more question please, did your second HT follow the same growth pattern as your first HT?? (meaning the front grew first, and the crown grew last) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Britanium Posted December 31, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted December 31, 2020 For me yes, everytime ! 🙏 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member BDK081522 Posted January 2, 2021 Senior Member Share Posted January 2, 2021 (edited) My experiences were vastly different. My first hair transplant grew along a normal timeline but it wasn't done by a skilled clinic so it always lacked density. Hard to tell exactly when things were at their final growth because it just wasn't nearly dense enough to show the hairline. I continued to wear my hair down covering the hairline even after the transplant. My second transplant with Dr Diep grew in very quickly. Started seeing growth around 2.5-3 months with full visual density by 5-6 months. It was crazy how fast that one grew. Granted he used a large punch and thick grafts in the hairline. So, it was certainly dense enough but looked a bit stalky. My last transplant with Dr Konior has been much different. Started seeing growth around 3.5-4 months and it has definitely followed a more traditional timeline of sprouting immature hair that needs months of maturation before making a visual difference. I would say I'm at 80-85% visual density at almost 10 months. It may be because there's more scar tissue there or the fact that he used small punches and there's all very fine singles used up front. Upon close examination, I can tell many grafts are thin and still immature. Also, I'm still seeing a few new singles sprouting at almost 10 months. So, this one will take a full 18 months to mature. There's definitely a difference in growth rates for me that may be based on surgeon technique, scar tissue, patient physiology, or a combination of all these various factors. Edited January 2, 2021 by BDK081522 2 Bosley 11-2016 FUE - 1,407 grafts Dr. Diep 09-2017 FUE - 2,024 grafts Dr. Konior 03-2020 FUE - 2,076 grafts Dr. Konior 09-2021 FUE - 697 scalp to scalp, FUE - 716 beard to beard Total scalp FUE - 6,204 grafts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member deitel130 Posted January 2, 2021 Senior Member Share Posted January 2, 2021 3 hours ago, BDK081522 said: My experiences were vastly different. My first hair transplant grew along a normal timeline but it wasn't done by a skilled clinic so it always lacked density. Hard to tell exactly when things were at their final growth because it just wasn't nearly dense enough to show the hairline. I continued to wear my hair down covering the hairline even after the transplant. My second transplant with Dr Diep grew in very quickly. Started seeing growth around 2.5-3 months with full visual density by 5-6 months. It was crazy how fast that one grew. Granted he used a large punch and thick grafts in the hairline. So, it was certainly dense enough but looked a bit stalky. My last transplant with Dr Konior has been much different. Started seeing growth around 3.5-4 months and it has definitely followed a more traditional timeline of sprouting immature hair that needs months of maturation before making a visual difference. I would say I'm at 80-85% visual density at almost 10 months. It may be because there's more scar tissue there or the fact that he used small punches and there's all very fine singles used up front. Upon close examination, I can tell many grafts are thin and still immature. Also, I'm still seeing a few new singles sprouting at almost 10 months. So, this one will take a full 18 months to mature. There's definitely a difference in growth rates for me that may be based on surgeon technique, scar tissue, patient physiology, or a combination of all these various factors. Interesting with the latest growth. Was this transplant around previously transplanted hairs which would have had previous scar tissue? Did you do anything different during your second procedure such as using Minoxidil which may have sped up the growth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member BDK081522 Posted January 2, 2021 Senior Member Share Posted January 2, 2021 6 hours ago, deitel130 said: Interesting with the latest growth. Was this transplant around previously transplanted hairs which would have had previous scar tissue? Did you do anything different during your second procedure such as using Minoxidil which may have sped up the growth? This last transplant was in, around, and in front of the previous one. I lowered the hairline about 1cm, reconstructed the temple points, and he added grafts into the previous areas that already had been transplanted for blending and gradient purposes. I'm using the same regimen that I've always had plus added biotin and dermarolling this time. Finasteride, minoxidil and started rolling around the 8th month post-op. 1 Bosley 11-2016 FUE - 1,407 grafts Dr. Diep 09-2017 FUE - 2,024 grafts Dr. Konior 03-2020 FUE - 2,076 grafts Dr. Konior 09-2021 FUE - 697 scalp to scalp, FUE - 716 beard to beard Total scalp FUE - 6,204 grafts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Westview Posted January 2, 2021 Author Senior Member Share Posted January 2, 2021 13 hours ago, BDK081522 said: My experiences were vastly different. My first hair transplant grew along a normal timeline but it wasn't done by a skilled clinic so it always lacked density. Hard to tell exactly when things were at their final growth because it just wasn't nearly dense enough to show the hairline. I continued to wear my hair down covering the hairline even after the transplant. My second transplant with Dr Diep grew in very quickly. Started seeing growth around 2.5-3 months with full visual density by 5-6 months. It was crazy how fast that one grew. Granted he used a large punch and thick grafts in the hairline. So, it was certainly dense enough but looked a bit stalky. My last transplant with Dr Konior has been much different. Started seeing growth around 3.5-4 months and it has definitely followed a more traditional timeline of sprouting immature hair that needs months of maturation before making a visual difference. I would say I'm at 80-85% visual density at almost 10 months. It may be because there's more scar tissue there or the fact that he used small punches and there's all very fine singles used up front. Upon close examination, I can tell many grafts are thin and still immature. Also, I'm still seeing a few new singles sprouting at almost 10 months. So, this one will take a full 18 months to mature. There's definitely a difference in growth rates for me that may be based on surgeon technique, scar tissue, patient physiology, or a combination of all these various factors. This is what I've heard from other people as well. But I think your type of cases are in the minority, not most people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Westview Posted January 12, 2021 Author Senior Member Share Posted January 12, 2021 My first transplanted hairs just popped through 😃 I'm soooooooooooooooooooooooo excited!!!!!!!!!!!!! 🥳 They are a bit early too, 3 days short of the 3-month mark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Britanium Posted January 13, 2021 Senior Member Share Posted January 13, 2021 Awesome 😎 an early grower 👏 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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