Would it be possible for me to safely get decent coverage?

[jc80220]

I don't have a decent camera (going to get a friend to take a bunch of photos to send to whichever surgeon I decide to go with) so am using a photo of a guy with similar hair to mine.

I'm thinking about a transplant. I'd like to try and avoid a second op if possible. Not just the additional cost, but more because I'd want to avoid spending a year watching just the front of my hair (hopefully) grow and nothing happening on my crown. I'd also not be able to even attempt to start dating again as the bald spot would look terrible.

I'm wary of doing a ''mega session'' and ending up with scars. Is getting a ''safe'' amount of grafts, say, 4000(?) from my head donor to cover the front and middle, and taking 1000 (a safe amount?) from the beard for the crown a realistic game plan to achieve a good result? The second photo is a crown I'd be fine with, it wouldn't have to be perfect. At the moment it's slick bald.

Thanks, guys.

 

 

[Melvin- Admin]

Honestly, in one shot, I doubt it. Someone with your level of hair loss requires at least 2-3 hair transplants. That said, you could contact H&W, Cooley, Konior, Gabel, some of the skilled FUT surgeons and see if they’d be willing to do a megasession FUT on you. I’m still not sure you’d be pleased though. You have to be realistic, one and done with your hair loss level isn’t realistic in my opinion.

[jc80220]

Cheers, Melvin.

No, I'm sadly seeing that one session is unlikely. I got excited when I first started researching transplants last week, seeing other guys pop over to Turkey and come back with a full head of hair, but this hair loss crap is never straightforward, is it.

I'm not willing to do FUT due to the scars but thanks for the suggestions. Most likely plan right now is to get the middle and front done and keep it buzzed until I can get the crown done a year after.

[Melvin- Admin]

4 hours ago, jc80220 said:

Cheers, Melvin.

No, I'm sadly seeing that one session is unlikely. I got excited when I first started researching transplants last week, seeing other guys pop over to Turkey and come back with a full head of hair, but this hair loss crap is never straightforward, is it.

I'm not willing to do FUT due to the scars but thanks for the suggestions. Most likely plan right now is to get the middle and front done and keep it buzzed until I can get the crown done a year after.

 Be careful, there’s a lot of nonsense going on in Turkey. Take some time and research real reviews here. Check out @Zoomster he was a Norwood 6 as well.

[Doron Harati]

@jc80220 with a good donor you can cover 4cover of your scalp per 1 procedure, don't be tempted to for those cheap Turkish clinics, my first HT was a mega session of 5000 grafts by a cheap black market clinic, and I almost died in the procedure,  an ambulance came and my scalp was botch both from donor and transplanted area, a year after I had a repair HT by Dr. Maras at HDC clinic in Cyprus (Greek side) which I am very happy with!

You can read about it on my links on my signature.

Today I represent HDC and you are welcome to PM me for a free consultant and join my Facebook group.

 

My HT journey:

 

Edited October 7, 2020 by Doron Harati

[jc80220]

Thanks for the link, Melvin. I appreciate what a minefield it is, I've spent hours the past week reading other peoples journey's, good and bad. I read a recent story from a guy that only had 3500 grafts at Cosmedica, which is one of the places I'm considering, and they badly over harvested.

Thanks, Doron. I'll check out your links. The reason I'm considering Turkey is that even though I know it's frowned upon here, there is a budget where I'm concerned. Even if I had a spare 10k to use one of the more expensive surgeons, I don't know if I could justify it. I think hair transplants are overpriced across the board.

 

[Melvin- Admin]

25 minutes ago, jc80220 said:

Thanks for the link, Melvin. I appreciate what a minefield it is, I've spent hours the past week reading other peoples journey's, good and bad. I read a recent story from a guy that only had 3500 grafts at Cosmedica, which is one of the places I'm considering, and they badly over harvested.

Thanks, Doron. I'll check out your links. The reason I'm considering Turkey is that even though I know it's frowned upon here, there is a budget where I'm concerned. Even if I had a spare 10k to use one of the more expensive surgeons, I don't know if I could justify it. I think hair transplants are overpriced across the board.

 

Good work aint cheap, and cheap work aint good. If you’re trying to get a budget 2k hair transplant, best to shave your head. Doing nothing is better than getting botched. 

[jc80220]

I mean, I wouldn't pay 2k. I appreciate it has to be a certain amount. But the reason I've never considered a transplant before is because of how prohibitive the UK costs are. Then I see guys in genuine forums (hairlosstalk and hairlossexperiences) paying 3, 4k for 3500 grafts in Turkey and getting great results. 3 or 4k is acceptable, to me. Doron had 2500 grafts and paid 6500 euro's. I'm assuming I need in total something like 6000 grafts so that'd be, what, 16,000 euro's?

I'm confused too. One of the three people I'm considering is a guy this forum vouches for, Resul Yaman. Isn't that the same thing as Arenamed?

Edited October 7, 2020 by jc80220

[Melvin- Admin]

13 minutes ago, jc80220 said:

I mean, I wouldn't pay 2k. I appreciate it has to be a certain amount. But the reason I've never considered a transplant before is because of how prohibitive the UK costs are. Then I see guys in genuine forums (hairlosstalk and hairlossexperiences) paying 3, 4k for 3500 grafts in Turkey and getting great results. 3 or 4k is acceptable, to me. Doron had 2500 grafts and paid 6500 euro's. I'm assuming I need in total something like 6000 grafts so that'd be, what, 16,000 euro's?

I'm confused too. One of the three people I'm considering is a guy this forum vouches for, Resul Yaman. Isn't that the same thing as Arenamed?

There are affordable surgeons, for example Dr. Maras who Doron went too, but as a Norwood 6 you’re gonna require way more grafts than Doron. So he paid 6500 which would be more like 10k for how many grafts you need.    If you’re gonna invest in yourself, do it right the first time, no happy patient has ever said “well the results weren’t good, but hey at least I got a deal” money comes and goes, your donor is finite.

[jc80220]

😄 No, that's true. I can't pay 10k though. I'd say maximum of seven, but that'd be for two transplants, with a year in between.

[naakmuka]

Please follow Melvins advice above and DO NOT make money the deciding factor for your transplant.

So the max your willing to go to is 3.5k per procedure?
I do not know of any reputable doctors that would fall in your budget with the number of grafts you require(Also note that FUE is more expensive). 

I hope the senior members in this forum guide you to the more affordable doctors.

All the best!

[Gatsby]

4 hours ago, jc80220 said:

😄 No, that's true. I can't pay 10k though. I'd say maximum of seven, but that'd be for two transplants, with a year in between.

jc80220 please seriously consider the advice given above. I'm really concerned that your expectations are far too high in what a hair transplant can do for you. Also, as has been stated if you go to Turkey or any other hair mill for that matter you run the serious risk of a bad result which will require further surgery and money. You need to read Doron Harati's thread where he literally nearly did die during a hair transplant. In the past couple of years people going for a cheap hair transplant have suffered necrosis, losing an eye and one death in that period. The others who are left with terrible results are legion. The amount of great results from Turkey are the exception, not the rule. All the best.

[aaron1234]

Yeah, no way one pass will do it for you.  Are you on fin?

[Doron Harati]

@jc80220 HDC price includes accommodations, 2 days of surgery (sometimes 3), plus 5 more days of cleansing the scalp out of scabs 100%, plus you will get my discount and escort around the clock before & after procedure .

Dr. Maras is 2.5 Euros per graft, and Dr. Christina is 2.3 Euros per graft, the main difference Dr. Maras is our repair specialist.

These pics is from I guy I know in person, he was botched in Turkey through a random agent and a year after went to repair HDC, 1850 micro FUE grafts by Dr. Maras. 

[jc80220]

Thanks, all.

Naakmuka,

I've seen lots of people getting good results spending less than 3.5k so yes, I thought that was realistic.

Gatsby,

I'm not sure I'd agree with you that good results are the exception, but this is just basing it on reading peoples experiences, and you never know who's word you can trust. I do accept though that it is a bit of a lottery, which is obviously wrong, as it's a serious operation. I am taking onboard what's being said here, even if, if I'm being completely honest, there does feel a bit of a bias on this forum towards pricier transplants.

Aaron,

No, I'll never take Fin. The risks to the average person are enough to put me off but I have Generalised Anxiety and I don't think the two things would be a good mix.

[Melvin- Admin]

3 hours ago, jc80220 said:

Thanks, all.

Naakmuka,

I've seen lots of people getting good results spending less than 3.5k so yes, I thought that was realistic.

Gatsby,

I'm not sure I'd agree with you that good results are the exception, but this is just basing it on reading peoples experiences, and you never know who's word you can trust. I do accept though that it is a bit of a lottery, which is obviously wrong, as it's a serious operation. I am taking onboard what's being said here, even if, if I'm being completely honest, there does feel a bit of a bias on this forum towards pricier transplants.

Aaron,

No, I'll never take Fin. The risks to the average person are enough to put me off but I have Generalised Anxiety and I don't think the two things would be a good mix.

In my opinion, you should probably forget about surgery. Shaving is free and risk free. If you’re not willing or can’t invest in yourself, doing nothing is the best option. Hair transplant surgery is very serious, we’re talking about your head here. It’s also a lifelong commitment, if you’re not willing to get multiple procedures as a Norwood 6 or pay for a decent surgeon, you’re not a good candidate. 

There’s a lot of nonsense going on in other forums. Fake reviews, bad reviews get censored and removed. Just ask @Egy he will confirm this is true. We may not be perfect, but we’re the most honest. You can see good, bad, and even ugly reviews here, without censorship. You get a real sense of who’s doing good work here.

We’ve also had to block a lot of these low-cost Turkish clinics who were posing as patients. We got bombarded by all these “reviews” low and behold, it was the same IP address, which we traced  it back to the clinic who had also tried to post as the clinic. Here’s the truth, do some of these low-cost clinics get good results? Yes, of course, it’s a numbers game, they do a dozen patients a day they’re bound to get some Good results. 

Now, can these results be duplicated? No, and that’s because there’s a different team working on you each time. Basically, it’s like playing Russian roulette with your head. If you happen to catch the bullet, not only will you lose valuable grafts, which to a Norwood 6 is more precious than gold, but you’ll end up having to pay a decent doctor to fix it. Have you heard the expression, going cheap comes out more expensive in the end. 

Given what I’ve heard though, I think you’re better off not getting anything done. We don’t sell hair transplants here, id rather give you honest advice that would benefit you in the end. 

[ITA]

1 hour ago, Melvin-Moderator said:

There’s a lot of nonsense going on in other forums. Fake reviews, bad reviews get censored and removed. Just ask @Egy he will confirm this is true. We may not be perfect, but we’re the most honest. You can see good, bad, and even ugly reviews here, without censorship. You get a real sense of who’s doing good work here.

I confirm,  clinics or surgeons, instead of investing in advertising, invest by buying the forums, they pay good money to the compliant forums so that the reports of disgruntled patients are deleted, especially in Europe, the only reliable and ethical forum I know is HRN, here  it's all true.

I will never stop writing it.

[jc80220]

Thanks, both.

Melvin,

I apologise if I come off as rude or confrontational at times. I have a lot of frustration in me, mostly due to the hair loss, and sometimes it's hard to keep it in check. I do really appreciate your comments though and despite how it may seem 😄 am hearing every word you and the other guys are saying. I've heard of clinics posting their own reviews before, its why I haven't gone anywhere near whichclinic (?) and only use actual people's experiences as a guide. And the ones that seem iffy I disregard.

Edit: Forgot to add. Last week I was due to go to a consultation for SMP but backed out when I got to the drawing a hairline thing, as it was just a stark reminder of how much I hate having a shaved head. Like I've said, no Fin, so the only other option to a transplant is a hair piece. But that would have to be with someone doing everything for me, as I tried going down the DIY route with it two years back and hated it. But having my own hair is obviously a much more appealing option than somebody else's stuck on my head 😄

Egy,

I only go on here, hairlosstalk and hairlossexperiences, which all seem fairly ethical. Lots of negative reviews on those sites, but then maybe not all the negative ones?

Edited October 8, 2020 by jc80220

[jc80220]

Sorry, Doron, your post showed up randomly so I missed it.

It all sounds good but 2.5 per graft is out of my price range. I'm going to contact Dermisoy, which sounds the best option. Resul Yaman too, though still reading upon him. I do want to read more about Esma Serkan Tetik too, the nurses Portugal has mentioned, once that Turkish website is functioning again. Read a Cinik horror story on ****truthtalk, and I think I'm likely ruling out Cosmedica and their ilk now. This forum helped with that, so thanks very much to all for your advice.

Edited October 9, 2020 by jc80220

[didit07]

On 10/7/2020 at 6:09 AM, jc80220 said:

Cheers, Melvin.

No, I'm sadly seeing that one session is unlikely. I got excited when I first started researching transplants last week, seeing other guys pop over to Turkey and come back with a full head of hair, but this hair loss crap is never straightforward, is it.

I'm not willing to do FUT due to the scars but thanks for the suggestions. Most likely plan right now is to get the middle and front done and keep it buzzed until I can get the crown done a year after.

Take a look at my post. I went to turkey and went to the clinic I felt comfortable and have had great results so far. 4500 grafts I had pulled and donor is healing nicely. I am already expecting i may have to do another 2000 grafts.

 

 

[Doron Harati]

@jc80220 you are still welcome to join my Facebook group:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/326632715435825/?ref=share