Regular Member Momo said Posted October 1, 2020 Regular Member Share Posted October 1, 2020 So I had a hair transplant at Esteworld and while I would consider it a failure I have a hair line and it actually looks pretty good at a number 1 so I’m kind of happy. Now I need to know what’s a good clinic for $3000 in Turkey or India? I was planning on Eugenix but that will cost me $6000 and that’s way out of my price range. I don’t want to hear about saving up money because it’s now or never for me as I’ll be moving to New Zealand and won’t be anywhere near Turkey again. THANK YOU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Britanium Posted October 1, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted October 1, 2020 If you want a decent cost effective clinic which will give a good result @Portugal25 is the man with a very good list ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted October 1, 2020 Administrators Share Posted October 1, 2020 Do not get a hair transplant if you have such a low budget. Good work aint cheap, and cheap work aint good. Save up until you can afford a decent clinic like Eugenix, which is reasonably priced. 2 I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Portugal25 Posted October 1, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted October 1, 2020 (edited) @Momo said you should thank God for the fact you went to a hairmill like Esteworld and came out without having a botched hair transplant. The cheapest Doctor in Turkey with decent results is Dr. Demirsoy at 1.25€/graft. He does 1 patient per day but he does have the techs do the implanting after he has done the slits. If you even consider going to a hairmill where technicians without any medical background perform your surgery I advise you to instead go to the nurses Esma&Serkan Tetik as they charge 1400€ and do just 1 patient per day using the DHI technique. HRN has 1 real patient posting results from these nurses and the Turkish forum has dozen of real patients posting decent results (even the forum Administrator). Better having a surgery with nurses than techs at a hairmill. @JohnAC71 thank you for your kind words but I won’t bother uploading my list because Momo just wants a cheap HT and is surely not concerned with a list that compares Doctors techniques and prices that are more expensive than Eugenix. Edited October 1, 2020 by Portugal25 Dr. Rahal 28/3/2008 (3425 Grafts / 7035 Hairs) https://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/topic/17877-dr-rahal-3425-grafts-28032008-18-months-update/ Dr. Kaan Pekiner 26-28/12/2019 -3895 grafts (2007 FUE + 1888 BHT https://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/topic/55853-dr-kaan-pekiner-fuebht-3895-2007-fue-1888-bht-28122019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Momo said Posted October 1, 2020 Author Regular Member Share Posted October 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, Portugal25 said: @Momo said you should thank God for the fact you went to a hairmill like Esteworld and came out without having a botched hair transplant. The cheapest Doctor in Turkey with decent results is Dr. Demirsoy at 1.25€/graft. He does 1 patient per day but he does have the techs do the implanting after he has done the slits. If you even consider going to a hairmill where technicians without any medical background perform your surgery I advise you to instead go to the nurses Esma&Serkan Tetik as they charge 1400€ and do just 1 patient per day using the DHI technique. HRN has 1 real patient posting results from these nurses and the Turkish forum has dozen of real patients posting decent results (even the forum Administrator). Better having a surgery with nurses than techs at a hairmill. Appreciate the reply man 🙏🏾 Yeah I’m so glad they didn’t overharvest my donor area. Also, do you genuinely think Esma&Serkan Tetik is the best cheap place to go? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Portugal25 Posted October 1, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted October 1, 2020 @Momo said you won’t find a cheaper option that has dozens of real patients posting their decent results. Go to the Turkish forum sacekimisonuclari and check real patients threads that had their HT with Esma&Serkan. Dr. Rahal 28/3/2008 (3425 Grafts / 7035 Hairs) https://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/topic/17877-dr-rahal-3425-grafts-28032008-18-months-update/ Dr. Kaan Pekiner 26-28/12/2019 -3895 grafts (2007 FUE + 1888 BHT https://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/topic/55853-dr-kaan-pekiner-fuebht-3895-2007-fue-1888-bht-28122019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted October 1, 2020 Administrators Share Posted October 1, 2020 You’re setting yourself up for failure. Why on earth would you go in to surgery if your goal is to get the cheapest, not the best. We need to as a community not entertain such inquiries, they’re detrimental to what we stand for as a community. 2 I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Britanium Posted October 1, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted October 1, 2020 (edited) Definitely consider the options @Portugal25 has given. Please do not consider anyone else if you really can only go cost effective. Or better still save up and you will have much better options! Eugenix being the most obvious. It really is worth it. Edited October 1, 2020 by JohnAC71 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Momo said Posted October 1, 2020 Author Regular Member Share Posted October 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, Melvin-Moderator said: You’re setting yourself up for failure. Why on earth would you go in to surgery if your goal is to get the cheapest, not the best. We need to as a community not entertain such inquiries, they’re detrimental to what we stand for as a community. I understand bro, but Eugenix is the best choice for me but they sent me 5 African American results and they were all mediocre ( I’m black). So I’m just going with something cheap because I don’t trust paying too much for a botched HT. And doctors who do excel in my kind of hair like Diep are waaaay out of my price range Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Momo said Posted October 1, 2020 Author Regular Member Share Posted October 1, 2020 7 minutes ago, Portugal25 said: @Momo said you won’t find a cheaper option that has dozens of real patients posting their decent results. Go to the Turkish forum sacekimisonuclari and check real patients threads that had their HT with Esma&Serkan. Thank you man. If you don’t mind could you please post their website? I can’t seem to find it anywhere! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Momo said Posted October 1, 2020 Author Regular Member Share Posted October 1, 2020 36 minutes ago, Melvin-Moderator said: Do not get a hair transplant if you have such a low budget. Good work aint cheap, and cheap work aint good. Save up until you can afford a decent clinic like Eugenix, which is reasonably priced. I’m African and they sent me a list of African recipients and they were mediocre. They excel in Caucasian and Indian hair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Portugal25 Posted October 1, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted October 1, 2020 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Melvin-Moderator said: You’re setting yourself up for failure. Why on earth would you go in to surgery if your goal is to get the cheapest, not the best. We need to as a community not entertain such inquiries, they’re detrimental to what we stand for as a community. @Melvin-Moderator I do agree with you but I rather advise a cheap option that I know is able to provide a decent result than just let this member get seduced by Cinik (or any other Hairmills) and end up getting a bad tech team that will provide yet another Turkish botched HT Edited October 1, 2020 by Portugal25 Dr. Rahal 28/3/2008 (3425 Grafts / 7035 Hairs) https://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/topic/17877-dr-rahal-3425-grafts-28032008-18-months-update/ Dr. Kaan Pekiner 26-28/12/2019 -3895 grafts (2007 FUE + 1888 BHT https://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/topic/55853-dr-kaan-pekiner-fuebht-3895-2007-fue-1888-bht-28122019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Portugal25 Posted October 1, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted October 1, 2020 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Momo said said: Thank you man. If you don’t mind could you please post their website? I can’t seem to find it anywhere! Sorry I don’t think we can share links to other foruns Edited October 1, 2020 by Portugal25 Dr. Rahal 28/3/2008 (3425 Grafts / 7035 Hairs) https://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/topic/17877-dr-rahal-3425-grafts-28032008-18-months-update/ Dr. Kaan Pekiner 26-28/12/2019 -3895 grafts (2007 FUE + 1888 BHT https://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/topic/55853-dr-kaan-pekiner-fuebht-3895-2007-fue-1888-bht-28122019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Momo said Posted October 1, 2020 Author Regular Member Share Posted October 1, 2020 6 minutes ago, JohnAC71 said: Definitely consider the options @Portugal25 has given. Please do not consider anyone else if you really can only go cost effective. Or better still save up and you will have much better options! Eugenix being the most obvious. It really is worth it. Thanks man, the thing with Eugenix who I was really excited for have really bad results with nappy hair which is my hair. They excel in Caucasian and Indian hair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Britanium Posted October 1, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted October 1, 2020 Like @Portugal25said I would much prefer to steer people in the best possible direction as opposed what could and would actually happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Britanium Posted October 1, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted October 1, 2020 (edited) @fabofly has a recent thread you could take a look at! Edited October 2, 2020 by JohnAC71 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted October 2, 2020 Administrators Share Posted October 2, 2020 29 minutes ago, Portugal25 said: @Melvin-Moderator I do agree with you but I rather advise a cheap option that I know is able to provide a decent result than just let this member get seduced by Cinik (or any other Hairmills) and end up getting a bad tech team that will provide yet another Turkish botched HT A hair mill is a hair mill, it’s better to do nothing if you can’t afford it. Shaving is free. 1 I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member didit07 Posted October 2, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted October 2, 2020 39 minutes ago, Portugal25 said: @Momo said you won’t find a cheaper option that has dozens of real patients posting their decent results. Go to the Turkish forum sacekimisonuclari and check real patients threads that had their HT with Esma&Serkan. You are wrong. I've posted a thread on my journey and there are dozens of vloggers on YouTube. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Momo said Posted October 2, 2020 Author Regular Member Share Posted October 2, 2020 3 minutes ago, fabofly said: You are wrong. I've posted a thread on my journey and there are dozens of vloggers on YouTube. I think he meant dozens of documented hair transplants from the same cheap clinic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member didit07 Posted October 2, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted October 2, 2020 Just now, Momo said said: I think he meant dozens of documented hair transplants from the same cheap clinic? And he's wrong examples all over YouTube 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Momo said Posted October 2, 2020 Author Regular Member Share Posted October 2, 2020 1 minute ago, fabofly said: And he's wrong examples all over YouTube Okay what’s an example of a cheap clinic with dozens of reviews on YouTube? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Portugal25 Posted October 2, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted October 2, 2020 (edited) 12 minutes ago, fabofly said: You are wrong. I've posted a thread on my journey and there are dozens of vloggers on YouTube. @fabofly I don’t understand what you are accusing me of being wrong about. You should be aware that here at HRN everyone advises to ignore YouTube videos, Instagram, Social media or images on Clinic websits because those are usually either fake results or cherry picked results. The best and only way to chose a Doctor is by looking at several real patient results and talking with real patients about their experience. Your advice to look at YouTube videos shows you are new to HRN. I did a quick search of your clinic at the Turkish forum, opened the first patient showing photos his HT and saw this overharvested donor area. When I recommend a Doctor I usually have done extensive research on them. You can search as much as you want and you won’t find this bad work from any Doctor on my list. Edited October 2, 2020 by Portugal25 Dr. Rahal 28/3/2008 (3425 Grafts / 7035 Hairs) https://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/topic/17877-dr-rahal-3425-grafts-28032008-18-months-update/ Dr. Kaan Pekiner 26-28/12/2019 -3895 grafts (2007 FUE + 1888 BHT https://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/topic/55853-dr-kaan-pekiner-fuebht-3895-2007-fue-1888-bht-28122019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Portugal25 Posted October 2, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted October 2, 2020 (edited) @fabofly I just opened another patient thread on the Turkish forum showing his results from the Turkish Hairmill where you claim to have had your surgery and boom I found another overharvested donor and a patient saying he’s suing the clinic. It took me under 3 minutes to find two botched patients from this clinic. Not going to bother looking any further as it’s pretty clear this a place to avoid like the plague! Edited October 2, 2020 by Portugal25 Dr. Rahal 28/3/2008 (3425 Grafts / 7035 Hairs) https://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/topic/17877-dr-rahal-3425-grafts-28032008-18-months-update/ Dr. Kaan Pekiner 26-28/12/2019 -3895 grafts (2007 FUE + 1888 BHT https://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/topic/55853-dr-kaan-pekiner-fuebht-3895-2007-fue-1888-bht-28122019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member didit07 Posted October 2, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted October 2, 2020 7 minutes ago, Portugal25 said: @fabofly I don’t understand what you are accusing me of being wrong about. You should be aware that here at HRN everyone advises to ignore YouTube videos, Instagram, Social media or images on Clinic websits because those are usually either fake results or cherry picked results. The best and only way to chose a Doctor is by looking at several real patient results and talking with real patients about their experience. Your advice to look at YouTube videos shows you are new to HRN. I did a quick search of your clinic at the Turkish forum, opened the first patient showing photos his HT and saw this overharvested donor area. When I recommend a Doctor I usually have done extensive research on them. You can search as much as you want and you won’t find this bad work from any Doctor on my list. One instance of a botched job means nothing. Fact of the matter is that if you want any meaningful statistical significance you are going to need far more than 1,5, 10 examples. When i say YouTube, I'm not talking about the hair clinics posts, that would be a clear conflict of interest. My point is that there are real people with no affiliation to clinics who are posting their journey on a weekly/monthly basis. You can reach out to them and ask questions like i have, i have a YouTube page that I am posting too sporadically as well. Most people are not interested in forums. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Portugal25 Posted October 2, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted October 2, 2020 (edited) I opened two real patients threads on the Turkish forum and they were both botched so its 2 for 2 = 100% botched! You really should be aware of what you are recommending to other members because your basically sending lambs to the slaughterhouse. if you seriously believe this clinic that destroyed the donor area of that poor guy is a clinic to be recommended at HRN then you are either employed by this clinic or seriously delusional. Edited October 2, 2020 by Portugal25 Dr. Rahal 28/3/2008 (3425 Grafts / 7035 Hairs) https://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/topic/17877-dr-rahal-3425-grafts-28032008-18-months-update/ Dr. Kaan Pekiner 26-28/12/2019 -3895 grafts (2007 FUE + 1888 BHT https://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/topic/55853-dr-kaan-pekiner-fuebht-3895-2007-fue-1888-bht-28122019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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