Senior Member ASMEDMANUALFUE Posted January 23, 2015 Senior Member Share Posted January 23, 2015 . ASMED SURGICAL MEDICAL CENTER DR KORAY ERDOGAN - PATIENT'S AGE: 25 - Hairloss type LUDWIG (Alopecia Diffusa): II - TOTAL DONOR CAPACITY: 6500 grafts * Temporal, Parietal and Occipital density: 50 uf/cm2 * Parietal and Occipital hair diameter: 50 micron - OPERATION DETAILS: 3901 grafts FUE extracted by manual punch, diameter 0.6 - 0.8 mm. Incisions realised with: custom made blades, lateral slit * 970 single grafts * 1971 double grafts * 960 multiple grafts * General average Hair per Graft: 2.00 - GRAFTS DISTRIBUTION: 1900 grafts were used to restore the patient's frontal area; 1350 grafts were used to fill the mid-scalp and 650 grafts to cover the vertex - FINASTERIDE: The patient started the treatment just after having undergone the surgery * Please note that the "result" pictures were sent by the patient. BEFORE THE OPERATION OPERATION 10 MONTHS AFTER THE SURGERY . ASMED Surgical Medical Center Dr Koray Erdogan. Istanbul, Turkey - For info, evaluations and quotations: htn@asmed.com.tr - Telephone Contacts (Numbers active in working time and 24h for urgencies): Main number : (+90) 216 464 11 11 USA: (+1) 8454612049 UK: (+44) 2035191146 - Free online consultation: Online Consultation Form - For additional information on our clinic, cost and photos: Asmed Hair Transplant Official Website - Our Official Facebook Page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member KO Posted January 23, 2015 Senior Member Share Posted January 23, 2015 Why are your before photos wet? 3382 FUE Lupanzula http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/185463-3382-grafts-lupanzula.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1966kph Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Why are your before photos wet? Agreed there should be consistency with pre op and results. I know they are photos sent by the patient so please could you ask for wet ones of the result so we could at least make a comparison of the hair when wet? Have a good day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUSA Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 Why are your before photos wet?looks like hair gel to me which I can only assume was used to make his hair look thicker but yea I agree both before and after shud be dry to get a better comparison. nonetheless thats a lotta grafts stuffed in-between native hairs and it looks as tho there was very little if any shock loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Spanker Posted January 24, 2015 Senior Member Share Posted January 24, 2015 As a diffused nw5/6, and 25 yrs old, this patient doesn't look like a good candidate. I am an online representative for Dr. Raymond Konior who is an elite member of the Coalition of Independent Hair Restoration Physicians. View Dr. Konior's Website View Spanker's Website I am not a medical professional and my opinions should not be taken as medical advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUSA Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 As a diffused nw5/6, and 25 yrs old, this patient doesn't look like a good candidate.NW5/6? ummmm no. not even close. in fact, not even in the same universe! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member RG71 Posted January 24, 2015 Regular Member Share Posted January 24, 2015 NW5/6? ummmm no. not even close. in fact, not even in the same universe! ummmm yes. This patient is very obviously balding in a NW6 pattern; which he will most likely reach in a relatively short time span considering how aggressive his hair loss is for a 25yr old. What's worse is that he doesn't have a dense donor area to support much more work. The 2500 more grafts he has in reserve will be a drop in the bucket compared to his needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member johnny2000 Posted January 24, 2015 Senior Member Share Posted January 24, 2015 The haircut is a joke i Think ?. And offcourse like ALLWAYS This doctor post wet before pictures to "camouflage" the work! I asked so Many times and the doctor dont answer, i try again. - dr koray, why is it you almost alleays post wet before pictures? Why not post HONEST result? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1966kph Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 I agree spanker and RG71 he's definitely on his way to a higher norwood I just hope for his sake the meds do not lose their effectiveness with time. ummmm yes. This patient is very obviously balding in a NW6 pattern; which he will most likely reach in a relatively short time span considering how aggressive his hair loss is for a 25yr old. What's worse is that he doesn't have a dense donor area to support much more work. The 2500 more grafts he has in reserve will be a drop in the bucket compared to his needs. Have a good day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnyalex Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 Aren't the wet before pictures just to highlight the exact areas where the hair loss is occurring? With my hair I had to send him more wet pictures than dry because of the drastic difference in the way my hair looks wet/dry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member johnny2000 Posted January 24, 2015 Senior Member Share Posted January 24, 2015 Aren't the wet before pictures just to highlight the exact areas where the hair loss is occurring? With my hair I had to send him more wet pictures than dry because of the drastic difference in the way my hair looks wet/dry. If the doctor needs to highlight the hairloss by wet the hair, Then the patient does NOT need a hairtransplant. Thats just my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnyalex Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 If the doctor needs to highlight the hairloss by wet the hair, Then the patient does NOT need a hairtransplant. Thats just my opinion. I respect your opinion but very high disagree with that statement. It depend's what you class as 'need'. I have extremely course hair strands, similar to this guys and it only becomes clear when your hair is wet or under harsh light however, if my hair strands were very fine the problem would be blatantly obvious. It's embarrassing to get caught in the rain or go swimming for example as my thick hair soaks the water like a sponge and the true extent of the balding is shown and at 25 you feel it's unfair that you should be dealing with it already. All this is assuming you have done at least a year of Finisteride in an attempt to stop further loss and regrow hair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnyalex Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 Having said that, I do agree that at least a couple of dry pictures would be preferred. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member johnny2000 Posted January 25, 2015 Senior Member Share Posted January 25, 2015 I respect your opinion but very high disagree with that statement. It depend's what you class as 'need'. I have extremely course hair strands, similar to this guys and it only becomes clear when your hair is wet or under harsh light however, if my hair strands were very fine the problem would be blatantly obvious. It's embarrassing to get caught in the rain or go swimming for example as my thick hair soaks the water like a sponge and the true extent of the balding is shown and at 25 you feel it's unfair that you should be dealing with it already. All this is assuming you have done at least a year of Finisteride in an attempt to stop further loss and regrow hair. I hear you, and i Also understand. But in This case the patient could have just as thick hair before the HT as he has after. But because dr. Koray, like he ALLWAYS does, show wet before picture, it looks like a good result, and maybe somebody might fall for this sleezy trick, but the fact is that you cannot compare the before and after because he wet it. So again i ask. Dr. Koray why do you almost ALLWAYS show wet before pictures? Can we please se a DRY before picture of the patient? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member garethbale Posted January 25, 2015 Senior Member Share Posted January 25, 2015 Dr Erdogan had recently started to post dry before pictures, so its disappointing that he has reverted back to wet before photos. It clearly makes the transformation appear better than it really is. I bet if this guy's before pics showed dry hair, his hair would look reasonably dense. I haven't got a problem with wet before pics being posted as long as dry ones are posted as well or there are clear comparatives (eg wet before vs wet after). These photos are very misleading and you really have to question the doctor's ethics. Are photos moderated for approval before they are allowed to be posted on the site? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member KO Posted January 25, 2015 Senior Member Share Posted January 25, 2015 I respect your opinion but very high disagree with that statement. It depend's what you class as 'need'. I have extremely course hair strands, similar to this guys and it only becomes clear when your hair is wet or under harsh light however, if my hair strands were very fine the problem would be blatantly obvious. It's embarrassing to get caught in the rain or go swimming for example as my thick hair soaks the water like a sponge and the true extent of the balding is shown and at 25 you feel it's unfair that you should be dealing with it already. All this is assuming you have done at least a year of Finisteride in an attempt to stop further loss and regrow hair. Nothing wrong with a wet pre photo as long as there are dry ones as well. I think we can agree on this. Otherwise there is obvious potential to mislead. Apples should be compared to apples. 3382 FUE Lupanzula http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/185463-3382-grafts-lupanzula.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Yiddo Posted January 25, 2015 Senior Member Share Posted January 25, 2015 Dr koray is a brilliant fue surgeon, I would say one of the best in the world, but there is no way that this guy should of been operated on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member FUE2014 Posted January 25, 2015 Senior Member Share Posted January 25, 2015 Dr koray is a brilliant fue surgeon, I would say one of the best in the world, but there is no way that this guy should of been operated on. Judging by the number of grafts he's prepared to put on young patients, he's also one of the least ethical I have seen on the HRN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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