jonnyalex

He was recommended here ?! How could that have happened ?!

Rich enough to have ASMED plastered around the entire last El Clasico game. That's serious money for sure.

Maybe, but that fact that it's even being mentioned around the subject just seems odd quite frankly.

10,000 per month? Is this true?

Honestly that's a pretty childish thing to say Melvin. I don't have anything against the Doctor. He is actually one of the best in the world. It's the way in which he operates that ensures patients don't receive his expertise. Instead it is about maximising profits above all. I went to ASMED because of this forum years ago. I am dealing now with incorrect hair direction various other issues caused by techs barely out of their teens operating on me and Koray Erdoğan having barely any involvement. It was a year after my surgery I begin seeing complaints not just here but all over the Internet. According to you however, I simply don't like the doctor which is why I speak negatively towards him. It is not just ASMED but all of Turkey's hair transplant industry which has pretty much contaminated the industry worldwide. The fact that your even mentioned banning me in the same sentence is very telling however. Go ahead if that's how you want to be. I literally mention in what you are responding to, why I use this forum. Also, offering SMP which can sometimes last barely a year does not recompense a destroyed donor area. I don't know how you could think that.

But I do know them and I know they are the same if not worse. I'm simply stating that once money changes hands, its impossible to remain unbiased. My post wasn't a comparison to other forums.

I wouldn't stress too much and just accept it. ASMED are bulletproof here and always will be. They could scalp a guy and they would be defended here. They were on the verge of recommending Dr Cinik, true, which is absolutely disgusting to be honest. A couple of good results posted on here should not be enough to propose a doctor recommendation. I absolutely guarantee you that he is known as a joke among his peers in the industry. The fact that it took a recommendation thread for the owners to even realise that his clinic perform surgery without the doctors involvement is just....Well all I can say is that shows the research that goes into a recommendation. You have to understand that here should be solely used to view photos of hair transplants, nothing more. The more doctors that are recommended here, the more money the owners earn. This system can never be truly unbiased. It means the very best doctors are not recommended unless they 'cough' up. This website is a 'for profit' operation. A big plus however is that this site allows patients to post results from doctors who aren't recommended. It also promotes free speech which is good.

This. The other doctors the OP mentioned are absolute pants and/or hair transplant factories.

Hattingen is actually a town in Germany from where they began years ago. They now operate out of Schaffhausen, a small, picturesque town in Switzerland

Which makes me question most of his results. He doesn't use microscopes and put multiples all over my hairline. I asked his translator, who was suppose to keep in touch ( he never did ) and he said " I also have multiples in my hairline also , who do I blame ? God ? ". He has never had a hair transplant and thinks that multi hair grafts appear in your frontal like naturally. Need I say more ? It was clear to me that he was sick of answering this question from people and it is obviousy a common complaint with them.

I was young and stupid and thought I was being smart with ASMED. They were highly recommended here and I thought I could get a top class hair transplant if I paid slightly more than the Turkish standard price. It simply doesn't work that way.

There are a few of them out there thankfully! It's a toxic industry but I believe there are some good guys left

I think people seem to have this idea that if a HT clinic have been working with FUT for years and not so long with FUE, they are not as good at the latter. This belief is odd to me. FUE is simply an extraction method. One simply yields much more than the other. For example, H&W didn't perform FUE for as long as others but they are far superior to nearly anyone else at FUE. It is the same with Hattingen, only they don't aggressivly market themselves. So FUE results should be the same as FUT results if you talking about the same graft count. The key is in the ability and artistry of the surgeon and the tools they use. Interestingly, the doctor said I would have been a candidate for a 6500 graft FUT due to my scalp laxicity. Unfortunately I have already has 5500 FUE grafts taken so that is no longer an option. He did say that I could still have a 2500 FUT in the future and that I had 1500 FUE grafts left ( which surprised me ). He said this in regard to future hairloss however and this time I will only have a small FUE using fine hairs to make the hairline I got from ASMED appear more natural. Here is a recent FUE result they posted. I don't think it gets much better than this. There is no dodgy lighting , ultra favourable hair characteristics or nonsense and that is why I chose them. I would add to this that anyone considering a HT should cross those who don't use high powered microscopes OFF their list. It is an ESSENTIAL part of hair restoration surgery and no way in HELL should a clinic who doesn't use them EVER be recommeded. I learnt this the hard way. This first part of my surgery was removing all the doubles and triples placed in hairline by ASMED and Dr Keser ( ASMED didn't use microscopes in 2015 during my surgery). ASMED also placed hair facing the polar opposite direction which has to be removed.

Notice how nearly all the the incredible transformations videos Coutos marketing team use are with Spanish patients with very dark, thick and coarse characteristics? These characteristics, which are also similar to Indian hair characteristics allow for the best transformations. The difference this makes should not be underestimated

He gave me a free 40 minute video consultation via Skype to discuss the issue then I ended up flying out soon after. I'm going to have a minor procedure with him as the extractions have healed so well. He even stated that maybe I would be happy with just the bad grafts removed, meaning they would not make a penny from me. The overall vibe was the guy seemed mostly eager to help me rather than to make as much as they can out of me.

This guy is sorting out my mess from Turkish clinics. He already removed all the doubles and triples inserted by ASMED for free as well as removing grafts placed in wrong direction. You couldn't be more right when stating this clinic are ethical. The location is also fantastic. It's good to see the moderator of this forum recognising the talents of clinics who don't aggressively market themselves. Because of what you said about how Pekineer was conducting himself, that leaves me with no doubt in my mind that there is only 1 clinic left worth considering in Turkey worth considering. That is HLC. Turkey is the cesspit of the hair transplant industry and it is time people were more vocal about it.

Yes, it is funded by their payments. Others will confirm this.

Surgeon's have to pay for their recommendation here. If they don't pay they don't get recommended, even if they are the best in the world. In my opinion, some clinics here have far too many poor results to justify being recommended. It's all about money, not about helping people. It should be used as a source to view before and afters, nothing more.

Holy crap.. this explains alot

Indian hair characteristics are literally the very best for hair transplantation and extremely forgiving.

Just do it. It lasts for 5 years at most. If you don't like it, it will fade away.

These guys are bulletproof on this forum sadly. This is another of the countless examples of poor hairline work performed by ASMED.

I think JayLDD is right in stating that even top doctors don't implant or extract. Having assistants to look at the grafts under microscopes is also important. The big difference is you can end up with inexperienced teenagers at ASMED. Many are so young that it is not possible they have much experience. At H&W for example, the assistants have decades of experience. I think at this point, after all the negative patient posts regarding work done at ASMED, it's burying your head in the sand to claim there is not a problem. Some of the hairline work he is producing is absolutely atrocious and there is a strong rumor that he is performing 9 surgery's per day. It is therefore clear why he has the most ' patient results '. It is the very definition of a hair transplant factory, like it or not. I believe he began life as one of the best. Not now. The only surgeons worth considering are in Ankara, not Istanbul. It's a shame because Ankara isn't a nice place. I think people should avoid Turkey entirely however.

What in god's name are you on about!? I have never commented on anyone's coloured contact lenses in my life. I have to assume you have got the wrong person. You've gone loony toons fella!