Senior Member akuma Posted August 16, 2012 Senior Member Share Posted August 16, 2012 Hi guys, Ive been looking through Dr Rahal results and he seems to have done very dense hairlines. I read somewhere that he does the usual 59 grafts per cm2 (dense) at hairline, 55 behind that, and then 50 behind that. I do think this is a good plan as you get good strong hairline, and also coverage with more spread out grafts behind the hairline. Instead of the opposite, where you get weak hairline but denser grafts behind the hairline. Here are some examples Hair transplant surgery before and after photographs with 2084 grafts Hair restoration surgery before and after photographs with 3249 grafts Hair Transplant patient of H. Rahal, MD, Male Class 3V, 4357 Grafts Hair Transplant patient of H. Rahal, MD, Male Class 3, 1435 Grafts Hair Transplant patient of H. Rahal, MD, Male Class 3, 1435 Grafts Hair Transplant patient of H. Rahal, MD, Male Class 2, 1902 Grafts Hair Transplant patient of H. Rahal, MD, Male Class 2, 3133 Grafts Hair Transplant patient of H. Rahal, MD, Male Class 2, 2597 Grafts Hair transplant surgery before and after photos from 2688 grafts to the hairline 12 months postoperative hair restoration results from 3489 grafts. Hair transplant surgery before and after photos from 2989 grafts to the temporal regions Before and after hair restoration surgical procedure photo results with 3693 grafts The hairlines are great. Is he the only one that densely packs the hairline and then lesser densitys behind? It really gives a good result. Most other results from other doctors that I seen have less-dense hairlines. Any input on this would be great. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Spanker Posted August 16, 2012 Senior Member Share Posted August 16, 2012 Dr Rahal is one of the best out there. The short answer is that he is aggressive in graft out (density) and he gets awesome yield. Dr Konior has some killer hairlines and I have seen some really nice h and w hairlines on appropriate patients. I think that he is currently the guy willing to pack the tightest and dense packing takes skill . Some think it is good and some don't. I think it really depends on the patients age, history, and education. I am an online representative for Dr. Raymond Konior who is an elite member of the Coalition of Independent Hair Restoration Physicians. View Dr. Konior's Website View Spanker's Website I am not a medical professional and my opinions should not be taken as medical advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Mickey85 Posted August 16, 2012 Senior Member Share Posted August 16, 2012 He also closes off the temples(not entirely however) which is something some Doctors are hesitant to do as it requires more grafts. He also designs lower hairlines than most, which is very desirable for alot of patients. The only 2 threads you will ever need: Revamped Advantages/Disadvantages of FUE. Myths dispelled. Educate yourself Everything FUE. Manual, motorized, ARTAS, NeoGraft, physician details and more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member akuma Posted August 16, 2012 Author Senior Member Share Posted August 16, 2012 Dr Rahal is one of the best out there. The short answer is that he is aggressive in graft out (density) and he gets awesome yield. Dr Konior has some killer hairlines and I have seen some really nice h and w hairlines on appropriate patients. I think that he is currently the guy willing to pack the tightest and dense packing takes skill . Some think it is good and some don't. I think it really depends on the patients age, history, and education. whats a H hairline? i cant find a picture in google about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Mickey85 Posted August 16, 2012 Senior Member Share Posted August 16, 2012 whats a H hairline? i cant find a picture in google about it. He meant a H&W hairline which is an abbreviation for the Doctors "Hasson and Wong". Check out their results here and on their website. The only 2 threads you will ever need: Revamped Advantages/Disadvantages of FUE. Myths dispelled. Educate yourself Everything FUE. Manual, motorized, ARTAS, NeoGraft, physician details and more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member bonkerstonker Posted August 16, 2012 Senior Member Share Posted August 16, 2012 Rahal does a lot of patients with only frontal loss so he sometimes puts in 4000 grafts just in the front third which is aggressive and he gets awesome early thick yield. H and W are a lot more reserved as they don't want to risk a situation where they build you a teenagers hairline then you get aggressive loss behind without enough donor left to cover the area. Bonkerstonker! http://www.hairtransplantnetwork.com/blog/home-page.asp?WebID=1977 Update I'm now on 12200 Grafts, hair loss has been a thing of my past for years. Also I don't use minoxidil anymore I lost no hair coming off it. Reduced propecia to 1mg every other day. My surgeons were Dr Hasson x 4, Dr Wong x 2 Norton x1 I started losing my hair at 19 in 1999 I started using propecia and minoxidil in 2000 Had 7 hair transplants over 12200 grafts by way of strip but 700 were Fue From Norton in uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Davis91 Posted August 16, 2012 Senior Member Share Posted August 16, 2012 I agree with most of the above. Frankly, it is easy to be a "king of hairlines" when you dense pack and are aggressive. You do not see a lot of NW5-6 patients from Dr. Rahal vs. H&W and Shapiro, for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Cant decide Posted August 16, 2012 Senior Member Share Posted August 16, 2012 I agree that Dr Rahal is very aggressive on those patients were it makes sense in terms of dense hairlines, closure, etc but I can tell you from expierience, when you are an advanced case, he is just as good and is actually pretty conservative on hairline placement, temple closure, etc. He is aggressive in the sense that he likes to get as many grafts as he can in a procedure (like H&W) which I think is a good aggressive. My Hairloss Web Site - Procedure #1: 5229 Grafts with Dr. Rahal Oct, 2010 Procedure #2: 2642 Grafts with Dr. Rahal Aug, 2013 7871 Grafts http://www.hairtransplantnetwork.com/blog/home-page.asp?WebID=2452 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Mickey85 Posted August 16, 2012 Senior Member Share Posted August 16, 2012 I agree that Dr Rahal is very aggressive on those patients were it makes sense in terms of dense hairlines, closure, etc but I can tell you from expierience, when you are an advanced case, he is just as good and is actually pretty conservative on hairline placement, temple closure, etc. He is aggressive in the sense that he likes to get as many grafts as he can in a procedure (like H&W) which I think is a good aggressive. This. It is not like he turns down NW 6 and 7s. He just accepts patients with lesser loss than some of the fine, aforementioned Doctors and is willing to close temples and pack more densely. Maybe due to the fact that he performs FUE also which could be used to extract more grafts later than just FUT alone(just my assumption). He does go lower on the hairline than most Doctors(save for Armani...) but won't give anyone a 3 finger forehead. The only 2 threads you will ever need: Revamped Advantages/Disadvantages of FUE. Myths dispelled. Educate yourself Everything FUE. Manual, motorized, ARTAS, NeoGraft, physician details and more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member HARIRI Posted August 16, 2012 Senior Member Share Posted August 16, 2012 I love Dr.Rahal hairline, but I never agree to get over 60 density because there is big risk of the grafts not to grow out. Going aggressive is not a good thing. I even asked Dr. Rahal for 50-55 maximum density as balding will continue in the future in other areas. Janna from SMG wrote a good reply in one of the threads about the high dense hairline issue somewhere in the forum. Plug removal + Strip scar revision - Dr. Ali Karadeniz (AEK)- May 23, 2015 Plug removal + 250 FUE temple points- Dr. Hakan Doganay (AHD)- July 3, 2013 Scar Tricopigmentation- Dr. Koray Erdogan (ASMED)- May 3, 2013 2500 FUT (Hairline Repair)- Dr. Rahal- July 26, 2011 My Hair Treatments: 1- Alpecin Double Effect Shampoo (Daily) 2- Regaine Solution Minoxidil 5% (2 ml once a day) 3- GNC Ultra NourishHair™ (Once a day) 4- GNC Herbal Plus Standardized Saw Palmetto (Once a day) My Rahal HT thread http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/164456-2500-fut-dr-rahal-hairline-repair.html[/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member RCWest Posted August 16, 2012 Senior Member Share Posted August 16, 2012 High fu/cm2 is risky in one pass. Some doctors opt to get the high density in two passes, as there is little risk in doing it that way. Finasteride 1.25 mg. daily Avodart 0.5 mg. daily Spironolactone 50 mg twice daily 5 mg. oral Minoxidil twice daily Biotin 1000 mcg daily Multi Vitamin daily Damn, with all the stuff you put in your hair are you like a negative NW1? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member BadBeat Posted August 16, 2012 Senior Member Share Posted August 16, 2012 I think Dr. Rahal is an extremely talented surgeon but I'm not a huge fan of some of those straight across hairlines. I think it can start to look kind of fake/unrealistic. I'm sure that's probably what his clients wanted though. I can see why he attracts the younger HT clients but personally I like to see a more natural looking hairline like a Dr. Shapiro or H&W would do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member mattj Posted August 16, 2012 Senior Member Share Posted August 16, 2012 (edited) Dr Rahal has a reputation for producing very nice hairlines, so naturally this results in more patients requesting the same, which in turn leads to more hairline cases coming up on the forums or being posted to the website. However, I don't think regulars on the forums could've failed to notice the higher Norwood level patients who have been posting. A couple that spring to mind: Hairgoesnothing http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/166171-almost-11-months-5604-grafts-dr-rahal.html Can't Decide: http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/160548-5000-grafts-dr-rahal-pics.html Eman: http://www.hairtransplantnetwork.com/blog/journal.asp?CopyID=2464&WebID=1025 00flatpro http://www.hairtransplantnetwork.com/blog/journal.asp?CopyID=8451&WebID=1641 Colorado42: http://www.hairtransplantnetwork.com/blog/journal.asp?CopyID=7328&WebID=1786 Geeve: http://www.hairtransplantnetwork.com/blog/journal.asp?CopyID=3353&WebID=1217 Hairfusion: http://www.hairtransplantnetwork.com/blog/journal.asp?CopyID=7759&WebID=2258 KFlynn: http://www.hairtransplantnetwork.com/blog/journal.asp?CopyID=6396&WebID=1890 And some we've posted: http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/163648-dr-rahal-patient-4603-grafts-6-months.html http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/165151-dr-rahal-4381-grafts-2-years.html http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/161303-dr-rahal-patient-6228-grafts-fut.html Results like these are actually leading to more and more higher Norwood level patients coming to Dr Rahal, so over time you'll be seeing more here. Edited August 16, 2012 by mattj I am a patient and representative of Dr Rahal. My FUE Procedure With Dr Rahal - Awesome Hairline Result I can be contacted for advice: matt@rahalhairline.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member chrisdav Posted August 16, 2012 Senior Member Share Posted August 16, 2012 Dr Rahal is one the best surgeons globally at any level of baldness. 2 poor unsatisfactory hair transplants performed in the UK. Based on vast research and meeting patients, I travelled to see Dr Feller in New York to get repaired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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