wylie

Rosie the Riveter? I don't know man.....

Looks good Joe, thanks for sharing. Also, great explanation scar5.

Thanks so much for the info., Mirko, much appreciated. I've also learned today that each session is performed 6 weeks apart, which means flying somewhere is not really viable financially. Thankfully there are a few clinics here in the Midwest. Best Regards.

For plug removal I would definitely consult with Dr. Vogel of Baltimore, I have always been very impressed with his repairs (and all his work in general) Good luck, removing 20 plugs should not be too difficult, and you will have peace of mind that they are finally gone.

I recently learned that the cost for an SMP session to address strip scars was $800.00, and that the treatment consisted of either two or three sessions. The first session is the base pigment, and it's typical to see scars reject around 50% of the pigment in the first session. The next session is where the majority of the ink is applied, and then the third session is for touch up. So here are my questions: 1) For three sessions, are these done 24 hours apart, meaning three days in total? If not, what is wait time between sessions? 2) if the quoted price is $800.00, that is the price of each individual session? So around $2400.00 for the three session treatment? 3) Are there any other hidden costs to be considered, such as blood work, anesthesia, etc? I've been told that the final result can fade in as little as 6 months. This means a cost of five grand a year to maintain coverage. This gets pricy. Anyone been down this road and can give a newbie some guidance? Thanks.

You are smart enough to not get a HT based on cost. And most everyone feels the pinch of the prices this industry charges. Your best option, at this point, is to do ALOT more research. While I'm unfamiliar with Dr. Rani, you had better research this doctor exhaustively if you think you are going to save a lot of money and still be satisfied with the result. The possibility certainly exists, but repair work can be expensive, and if necessary, costs more than taking the more expensive option would have. Don't take a leap of faith. Know everything there is to know, including the good, the bad, and the ugly. I did not know she is recommended here until I read your post above, that is a good sign.

Sounds like a budding bromance.

Heliboy's hair looks great. He has no obligation to provide you with pictures because you choose to discount his work. But if you want to see an awesome hairline, check out my signature. The result left me in awe, not only because of the result, but because Dr. Umar got the result with so little to work with. I also visited three other coalition doctors (strip only) who either could nothing or very little. For the rest of the coalition doctors, I was a lost cause. And still would be today were it not for Dr. Umar. I think you and I are the only people on your thread that have visited a certain Georgia doctor. I had my initial repair surgery with him and, ignoring numerous red flags on the internet about him, proceeded anyway. Nothing to show for it, more time and money wasted, including finite scalp grafts. But then I turned to Dr. Umar, and my first repair was the hairline rebuild. After that grew in I knew I had a chance of a normal appearance, and a few years later, I would have one. You went the other way, and started so-called "corrective surgery" with this doctor a mere 6 months after your procedure with Dr. Umar, which, in and of itself, is a red flag. If you think this Georgia doctor has anyone but his own interests in mind, then I'm afraid you've been fooled. At this point, you are merely a pawn in this man's game. And that is not saying, for whatever reason(s) you have, that you are not truly unhappy. That is your right and your belief and I'm not here to change your mind. But someone ginning up your dissatisfaction and exacerbating the situation simply to disparage someone he does not like, to say nothing of doing removal at 6 months, speaks to the character and ethics of this individual. Or should I say lack thereof.

Your indignation has been duly noted. Again, I bid you a good day. Best, Wylie.

Feel better now? That's good. How about you and fueonly quit disrupting the thread with off topic commentary? I'm really pleased to hear you have a Masters Degree, that is very impressive, you should feel very proud of yourself. Have a wonderful day.

It is too early to tell what to expect. Hopefully the angulation of your grafts is correct, and you can add a few grafts to increase the density and be done for good with your hair. Any shaving of the donor area can get done far more inconspicuously in the future. And however many grafts you will need should be relatively few. In the next few weeks those hairs in front will shed and you'll be waiting then for the growth that is forthcoming. In my opinion, the premier FUE repair doctor in the world is Dr. Umar in LA. I have had extensive repair work done with exceptional results. Your repair is tiny by comparison, but it is in a high visibility area. I think for now your best option is to disguise the donor area and be patient while you shed. It may be 6-8 months before you know for sure what work you need to do. And remember this: Not all FUE doctors are created equal. You need to do your homework. I'm not sure there is even an FUE specialist in Texas you can rely on, but I might be wrong. Choose wisely this time.

It appears Rashid had a shill on this forum last year. After this example people should be warned about this charlatan. Amazingly, the OP is considering three doctors, and the only one in the U.S. Is Rashid. Baffling. http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/167661-having-hard-time-deciding-doctor-go-%85.html

The good news is three fold: your hair can be repaired, that ridiculously large donor shave for 100 grafts will regrow, and you only had 100 grafts done with a hack doctor. The bad news is you will likely need another session, because this guy did hairline work, and if it turns out to be subpar, it will be noticeable. So you are going to have to be patient while you research repair options (I'd start looking into this now and get out in front of it) and while you wait for your hair in back to grow out. I would look into a hair vitamin regimen like MSM and maybe even Niacin (low dosage on that, too much can raise your blood pressure FAST) and you need to do your homework on FUE, unlike strip surgery, there is a wide disparity amongst the best doctors in their FUE ability (unlike strip, where the differences are far less, in both techniques and results among recommended, vetted physicians on this forum) Also, for your large donor area, you might be able to hide that with a concealer, I suggest your order some Dermmatch and try that on the donor area, it might work with hair over it. Be patient, do your research, and don't ever lose hope, you'll get thru this!

Who in their right mind gets corrective work done after 6 months? I've honestly never heard of such a thing happening before. And what kind of doctor would perform so-called " corrective surgery" after 6 months without consulting the initial doctor who performed the work? It is apparent to me that someone is not making the correct decisions, the reasons for this I can only surmise, and is getting absolutely reprehensible advice from another doctor who has an ulterior motive in doing so. Hairguy, when you repeatedly claimed that the last thing you remember is laying your had back and passing out after a hairline you did not consent to was drawn on your forehead, only to be disproven by the actual hairline plan bring shown while you were upright and awake, you lost all credibility after your claim was shown to be untrue.

Very interesting case! My case was the exact opposite, and my beard hair grows well on my scalp. I will be watching this thread for updates, thanks for sharing and grow well!

Some may think this thread should remain unlocked and "run its course", but let's remember a number of untrue allegations have been leveled against a respected doctor, and it is entirely unfair for these specious claims to be left out there for anyone, including those with a similar agenda, to use this discussion as their personal pinata. I agree with Bill and Spanker and think this thread should be locked. It has already "run its course", IMO.

Apparently you don't know the doctor in question then, or you don't know what some in this industry are capable of. Probably both if you ask me.

Did Dr. Umar use nape hair in your hairline? He did in mine, and I seem to remember that nape hair has lot of 2, maybe even 3 hair grafts. You can't ask other doctors on this site if that is true because they don't use nape hair.

Where is there photographic evidence of multi haired grafts in the hairline? The one thing many people on this thread are not familiar with is they do not know the man behind the curtain, and just what he is capable of. I might be the only one on this thread who knows his history AND has sat in his chair for surgery. It is not only possible that photos of multi haired grafts are purported to have come from this patients hairline, it is indeed likely that this physician would make a blatant and egregious falsification and use photos from outside the hairline as evidence in doing so. I'm really seeing someone who is vulnerable being exploited to further a certain doctors vendetta against Dr. Umar. If that sounds paranoid or conspiratorial, it is quite likely that many of you do not know what kind of people are involved in this industry. I'm entirely grateful for forums such as this one, where these issues with consumer satisfaction and alleged doctor ineptitude can be examined, hashed out, and openly debated. But something just didn't smell right from the beginning, and when I found out a certain doctor was involved behind the scenes, I have a deep suspicion that this story has been manipulated from the very beginning and Hairguy is being used for someone else's ulterior motives.

He's a Bhatti shill, and a damn poor one at that. The very least Bhatti can do is employ someone that can use proper English.

You don't know what you are talking about and are trolling. . You have not contributed one cogent thought or opinion to this entire thread, or any other thread I've seen you comment on, to include one that I started a few weeks ago.

In the interest of full disclosure, the doctor Hairguy is seeing for his alleged repair is a notorious doctor with a very polarizing reputation in the industry who has alot of skeletons in his closet. I know you are unaware of this Hairguy because it would appear others who pursued a similar vendetta against this man have disappeared, their own personal websites being scrubbed from the web. I will assume he spent some of his earnings on legal pursuits. I ignored the red flags that were all over the web about his history and started my repair with this doctor. We had agreed to a small test session of 500 grafts. After sedation and having my head shaved the doctor suggested we double the size of the procedure to 1000 grafts. I gave my permission. I got zero noticeable growth from the scalp grafts mainly because of a change in plan once i was in the chair and them just being added to existing "mini grafts" for reasons that now appear strictly for financial gain. Furthermore, the entire plan he followed was to waste my precious scalp grafts by spreading them amongst a scalp full of the dreaded "mini grafts" which, if any growth resulted, it was not at all apparent. The entire session was to be a 500 graft beard session to determine the efficacy of this donor. They were added to my strip scars and yielded some growth. But the scalp, if it grew, was not apparent upon close inspection 9 months later. So I ended up wasting close to ten thousand dollars and squandering my precious and finite scalp donor. I remember this doctor telling me "I might not need another surgery" when the session was done. He never made any plan for a follow up, largely because he knew I would be disappointed and not come back. And I barely saw him that day, as he spent most of his time working on another patient, only stopping in briefly a couple times. My own repair journey got off to a dreadful start, but when I found Dr. Umar, that all changed. You see, Dr. Umar not only got me results, but he was someone I could trust. I certainly had the exact opposite experience in Alpharetta, Georgia.

While it may seem to be vindictive, it is important to lay all of ones cards on the table, especially if someone is making such damaging accusations against your business and against you personally. For starters, someone in his frame of mind is potentially not only going to be unhappy with his result, it is also possible this patient asked for, and received, a hairline placement of his own design, then after 6 months did not like his own suggestion for hairline placement, and decided to blame it on Dr. Umar, and then accusing the doctor of taking advantage of him while he was "passed out", which, on its face, really makes no sense. Around 6 months ago there was a London based poster in his 40's.on here with a full head of hair and a slightly receding hairline, which was not visible in pictures until he pulled his hair back in the photos. This poster came online to complain that his "hair loss" was ruining his life, even to the point he no longer had a social life because of concerns over his hair. There was simply no way his completely normal looking hair should be responsible for these feelings, but he projected his personal problems onto a receding hairline and in 2 months was on his way to the U.S. for a hair transplant. The point is, someone's frame of mind is very relevant, and often times not necessarily grounded in reality. If someone attacks you both personally and professionally, it is only fair to be able to defend yourself with any and all relevant information related to your accuser.

With all due respect Hairguy, I don't believe what you wrote. As someone who has had 4 surgeries with Dr. Umar, I know the attention to detail he takes and I know the emphasis he places on making sure everyone is on the same page. There is no way in hell I believe someone took the medication you described, passed out, and woke up with a hairline not only placed too low, but pluggy. If you had of spun just one storyline here (either you were dissatisfied with the hairline placement OR you found the hairline to be pluggy) I might give your opinion more credence. As it stands, the part about you passing out and waking up dsfigured is simply too much. I realize everyone responds to medication differently, but my own experience is I've never come close to sleeping or passing out prior to any surgery. Either way, my hairline repair was the polar opposite of your story. To think something as important as the placement of your hairline was done without your consent, and placed too low, all after you passed out, stretches credulity. Count me as someone who is extremely skeptical of such a tale. Here is where the narrative gets confusing: You say "around the six month mark I felt something was wrong". All I know is there is no way it would take me six months to figure out a transplanted hairline was too low. It would take me less than six hours to realize this. Why did it take six months for your dissatisfaction to materialize? This makes no sense. If after six months you don't like your result, that's one thing, but implying that you were passed out, woke up with a hairline too low, and then realized it at the six month mark, again has me questioning how plausible your story is. Ohhhhhkayyyyyy........if I had any previous doubts about the veracity of your story, this part erased them. I've been around these forums for 6 years, there are countless times that new posters pop up with hit job stories against various surgeons, this time you have got your complaints all very cogently stated, well explained, and meticulously detailed. But there remains one problem for me: it doesn't pass the "smell test". And if my Spidey senses prove correct, I bet I could guess who this "reputable repair surgeon" you at consulting with is. But that's another story, lets stick with your tale for now. I look forward to seeing your pictures, until then, the only thing I believe here is you are unhappy with your result. As a repair patient myself, were it not for Dr. Umar, I would not have had a chance, and there was not another doctor in the world who could have done what he did. I'm also pretty sure Dr. Umar has a very different version of the story you shared. And his hairlines rock. Welcome to the forum.

A fine choice by Dr. Konior. Congrats Spanker, I'm sure you'll prove a very valuable asset.