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This will be fun to follow, thats alot of temple work, will be a very good look since your temples was so receded. Hope the flight goes well! 😊

I have now removed about 500 grafts from the temples. Posting photos in a bit.

That hairline is good even in sunlight. Really nice result, Dr Munib is a real pro. Enjoy your new hair!

Removal of too many follicular units from the overall donor area is called donor depletion. Donor overharvesting can as I said be done with 10 grafts extracted if youd like to, just remove 10 grafts that sit beside eachother and you have a small round gap.

You are saying it is not overharvesting then you are describing that he is overharvested, you can overharvest on a case with only 250 grafts extracted if you want to. The extraction in all cases need to be extracted homogenously, to remove too many grafts in a certain area makes that area overharvested even if you just remove a couple of hundred grafts.

Wow looks dense

Good

Looks great! Homerun result

Interesting comment. Could you elaborate? You guys also like to sort grafts by eye without loupes or microscopes? To the TS: I wish you best of luck!

Well, this is only multis in the temple, with awful angulation

Yes the side I did looks much better than the other side according to his photos, but the photos is of very low quality. The side you mention is totally off yes. This is the side I did, it did grow out pretty alright if you look at this pic, but its very pixelated, cant see any details. Temple work needs insane skills. But what you see at Day 10 angulation wise is 99.9% of the time what you see when it later grow out after ugly duckling phase.

It was pretty easy to spot at Day 10 that the temples would not look good, I had the same problem with mine. Transplanted hair is supposed to follow the directions of the native hair, the directions can vary but the Dr need to follow it for it to look natural. Ontop of that, they used wrong hair, they used to thick grafts. Black = Transplanted hair White = Native

Yes, I had the day after surgery.

You seem to put weight on the active members to participate with their own story. For example @J.A.C have been here since 2013, 10 000 posts, not a single photo of himself or his hairloss journey. Claiming 5 hair transplants, 2 at Ziering in UK, 1 at Longevita, 1 at Dr Maral and 1 at unknown in Turkey according to his posts.

You are not doing a good job at hiding your identity. No photos and no threads about your hair loss but 500+ posts. Lol. I think the pricing is not of the greatest importance when you see guys like Dr Diep doing corn fields on the daily for some 8+ dollars per graft?

He is advertised before and what I thought was 1 euro per graft. They had a discounted price they said, so instead I had to pay about 0.9 euro per graft, 2350 euros for 2500 grafts initially. I also contacted Dr Demirsoy who said something like 3250 euros. I contacted FueCapilar which is a very popular clinic later with great results, they said about the same price as Yaman. I choose Dr Yaman as he was forum recommended, member of the IAHRS and also because some people on the forum which is considered knowledgeable said he was a good Dr, if you want the background to my choice. It might sound like a low price, but if you take into account a Dr charging 1 euro per graft in Turkey would be approx the equivelant of a Dr charging 3-4 euro per graft in Spain if you compare their economies. The ones who charge that in Spain is some of the best Drs in Europe. If we apply your logic, the Drs charging 3-4 euros per graft in Europe should be terrible, because great Drs in US is charging 10-14 euros per graft.

I agree that the hairline is acceptable, the temples botched. In total you can decide. The hairline is easy fixable with some singles infront. I have removed a couple of the thickest ones in the hairline corners aswell already with electrolysis. Here you can see the details of each row. Also a photo on how soft my temples looked before and my front. My hair is thin as I said and very soft looking which can make thicker hairs stand out alot.

It is a fair point. It might look good for the price. If it was not for the temples I would have not cared about the many doubles in the hairline, because I dont really look for perfect.

I apologize, I should have wrote an option where we just have a different look at what good work is. My main concern is just if we take magnification into account. If you have blurry vision, you have on your license that you can only drive with glasses or contact lenses. You forget your glasses at home, you drive anyways and hit a tree because of it on your way. Is it then a mistake or is there a deeper problem? I think this is a good description on how difficult a hair transplant without magnification is.

Well you guys seems easily offended. The difference between the packages is FUE and the more expensive package is DHI. It is a difference in implantation technique, in my case Yaman Implanter was used. He is doing pre made slits in both cases of FUE or DHI. Has nothing to do with what you are saying.

I am sorry if you feel hurt if I question things you say, it is a forum in the end and I guess the point is to discuss both bad and amazing work, correct me if I am wrong. I just think that it is good to evolve and get better at whatever you do and for that you need to be able to take critique, good or bad. We have not gotten a statement from the clinic about their use of magnification but we have sort of cleared it up because of your statement that they are investing in microscopes, added to that Dr Barghouti said it takes "hours for grafts to be sorted under microscopes" and my extraction was done by 1 person, the room was only accompanied by more people in the end of the extraction who helped to pull them out, followed by a short 15 min lunch break, which basically makes it impossible that it was used, if we are not seeing the Usain Bolt of sorting grafts under microscopes. During implantation I did not see any loupes on any technician and on their Instagram no loupes is showing in their photos. You have said that loupes is not important before in this thread. I hope you mean it is not important if microscopes is used, otherwise I would question if you ever listened and educated yourself what the great Drs you talk to every week told you. Here you have some photos, I counted the other day, I counted to approx 25 doubles/multis in the front row. The second row I think is also important which should be only singles aswell, there you find multis and many doubles. It is not just multis in the hairline which we see from the terrible clinics but still needs another row of singles in my next transplant to make it look more natural. The density is not good enough for me, neither terrible but very see through. I have thin hair, 45 microns which ofcourse plays a role. There is a spot as you can see in the upper temple on one side which grew less. Here you got some photos.

From the photo you took out you see 1 multiple and couple doubles in the hairline there. Not sure what you want to have said with that. Yes the yield is not terrible, but everything except the yield is. Hair transplants is not about moving hair from one place to another, theres more to it in my opinion. Its not even worth discussing with you as you have a obvious bias towards the clinic.

I have answered most before, but it is atleast 10 cases here on this forum that have followed through their whole 12 month journey, of 42 threads in total. I have seen about the same amount of reviews on other places than this forum aswell. He is doing 1 patient a day using loupes and microscopes and he have been doing hair transplants exclusively since 1995. I think his work looks very soft and natural, which I am looking for. He is very focused on preservation of the donor area and I really need someone who is taking care of that aspect aswell, I think my previous transplant had a slight overharvesting in certain places. I have talked to a few of his patients, specially the ones who done temple work with him, who have only said positive things. Me and Dr Saifi have had a good talk ourselves, which I also had with Hattingen, Dr Sever Muresanu, but his pricing was 4,5 euro per graft and I think it is abit high and he does not really have much reviews aswell, although the reviews he have is very good cases. I was also talking to HLC but had not really seen enough temple cases with them, I do think they are the best in Turkey though. I was always talking to a coordinator which talked to the Dr for me and it is always difficult to do this I think. Also I did not really want to go back to Turkey to be honest, the HLC coordinator is a great guy though. Thats about it, you can always have your doubts and why I dont want to go to some hype Dr reviewed 10 times a week is mainly due to the lack of contact and you cannot really discuss your thoughts and expectations with them beforehand, I was thinking about Dr Mwamba for some time aswell, but the contact with them is a mess, which many said here before. I think this might not have been a problem if it was my first transplant and very straight forward, but as of now I think I need a more personal touch to it.

Yes it is looking alot better. I had some talks with some great Drs who recommended to not punch out every single graft because of the risk of scarring. Another thing was that to punch out these grafts, because it is so many, you need to punch them out in 1 session and then wait for 12 months, then have your final repair surgery. My skin is pretty prone to scarring and this is very individual, I have seen cases with Dr Feriduni punching out 2000 grafts in the front rows from a bad hair transplant with almost no scarring, but I dont think it would be like that in my case which made me opt to remove most with Electrolysis blend method. It is exactly my thought, to remove most of the bad grafts so my repair will be easier to do, the fine tuning and detail will be done in the surgery itself.

Yes I hope I will be done for some time with my next procedure. What is even more difficult to understand is that I made this thread a month before I had my surgery, I linked it to the clinic, told them I will do a very detailed review of your clinic. I guess the coordinator maybe did not care to tell the Dr this maybe as he left the clinic just weeks after my surgery, or they did not think I would follow through with the review, otherwise they should have put extra care to it. If they did a near perfect work on me it would probably got them fully booked for months consider the interest in this thread. I agree, the Drs who do consistent work and 1 patient a day will be in high demand. As a Dr who is performing 2-3 surgeries per week and 1 patient a day told me, about the tech driven clinics doing multiple patients 5-7 days a week, "they will be the richest in the cemetery". 😁