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I’m not digging at the participants - I’m just highlighting what I assume to be the obvious? No one is going to be able to grasp a reality of how well this product works, if it’s being used in conjunction with other proven medications - which was what I presumed the whole point of the free 12 month supply in return for a publicised review was aimed at creating.

I’m not faulting you for wanting to use minoxidil - I’m just pointing out that from a marketing and publicity perspective, which I’m assuming Hasson was after with this 12 month free supply in return for a thread campaign, it’s simply just voiding it from the get go.

What are H&W going to gain from these orchestrated Xyon patient threads when they’re pretty much all using them in conjunction with other meds, aside from cynical comments and speculation from the community that the other adjuncts are likely producing the results?

I don’t argue that you shouldn’t be using both the topical finasteride and minoxidil combined, as it’s very well documented that the two therapies combined are a much more powerful force in combatting MPB - but it’s made this whole documentation of your journey with the Xyon product invalid from the get go, as there is absolutely no way in determining what has been the driving force for your recovery (should you hopefully experience this).

I think I’ve just read somewhere on this forum that a user gets his brand name Loniten from the same site, so if you are using pfizer Loniten tablets , it sounds legit. I would advocate to consult with a dr beforehand, or at the very least inform a dr who is aware of your medical history of what you are taking. 0.5mg is an extremely low dosage, FYI. I think it’s a pretty accurate assumption to use sex and body weight as determining factors (in healthy individuals) as to what dose they can get away with. Dr Jerry Shapiro talks about this on a YouTube video with some Brazillian Dr, it’s a pretty informative watch.

You can actually make pretty accurate assumptions as to how a reduction in t converting to dht COULD play out, given you have this prior information - for example, if you already have low DHT (within range) and high estrogen (within range) - this may suggest you are more at risk of moving your estrogen levels into upper out of range territories should you inhibit enzymes that reduce t into dht. It is also very useful to have as a benchmark and reference point, should for whatever reason in the future you aim to go back to baseline levels.

Yes. Which clinic?

Exactly the same here.

Good myth

I think he’s just been a good responder to meds and managed to maintain. I can’t see any evidence of a hair transplant from photos of him since 2004 - His density has for sure improved in comparison to Melvins photo, however he has maintained an irregular shaped hairline, with asymmetrical left temple recession more noticeable than the right - and he has frequently shaved down his donor to pretty much skin, with no signs of scarring.

Formerly diffusing 😉

Diffusing in a NW5 pattern.

I love the design for you, this is a great example of perfect facial framing. Heal well,

I’ve just came across this thread again, and noticed a strong sentiment towards playing it more conservative with the hairline design. I agree in enlarge, that a precautionary strategy such as this is most likely advisable for you, given you’re not on 5AR inhibitors, and you have pretty aggressive hairloss for your age. However contrary to the historical belief within the industry, addressing temple points doesn’t mean you are not being conservative - it means you are taking the required steps to achieve a natural outcome, simply put, a corner filled hairline with no temple point work in your option 1 strategy, will not leave you with a natural looking result, and more like that of a hair system wearer. Temple point restoration is fundamental for the complete framing of the face, and utilises very fine haired single grafts that offer little coverage value for other areas of the recipient, thus making the need to reserve grafts for future loss somewhat of a redundant argument. Conservative restoration usually refers to the hairline placement, ie - the height from the eyebrows, which is a different conversation. Transplanting into diffuse areas of loss, as I previously mentioned comes down to the individual Dr’s preferred style. I would recommend not addressing the frontal and crown areas simultaneously - rather focus on the hairline and temple points first, and then analyse your growth from your first surgery, before formulating a plan to address other areas of loss.

Started 2.5mg daily in Dec 2021, Increased to 5mg daily after 6 weeks, Currently at around 9 months after starting 5mg daily; - Resting HR remains >60 - Avg BP reading from last 3 months 118/64 -Body hair more coarse, and faster growth rate (face, chest, legs, back) -Scalp hair healthier shine/texture, -Scalp Hair increased growth rate -Scalp Hair Visual Regrowth on mid scalp/Vertex/Crown In terms of ‘adverse’ affects - I can’t think of any that I have experienced, or that have been of note. So far it has been hugely successful for me. Never tried topical, so unable to compare. Have an ECG booked in November so will update.

Blue line is not a Caucasian hairline, and IMO would be a mistake. Red line much more fitting.

What did he initially say you could expect with 2000 grafts? I’m unclear as to why a 2000 graft surgery for this area was ever agreed upon in the first place.

This is a pointless exercise unless we have an idea of your desired hairline design.

If that thought even enters your head, I would question immediately the choice of said surgeon.

Not for hair loss. 2. Probably not. Read these boards for a Few Hours and take in the info from established posters, and you’ll be more clued up on hair loss than 99% of dermatologists. 3. As above. Bottom line - research on here and other good sources of information, and consult with specialist and recommended hair restoration surgeons. Anything else is a waste of time.

Given your hair loss style/pattern - you look like a patient who is more likely to experience potential regrowth and thickening from a 5AR inhibiting medication, however this of course isn’t a guarantee. Consult with same Dr or others RE oral minoxidil, if you have concerns about the adherence to using the topical - minoxidil is a growth stimulant, and much more likely to regrow and thicker areas affected by miniaturisation.

Start off small, and see how you get on from there. Even with a moderately aggressive balding pattern, I genuinely believe 0.5mg 3-4 times weekly will more times than not visually improve the state of play.

1mg equivalent = 1ml of 0.1% topical. Xyon’s 2.5% formula equates to 25mg per 1ml.

Huge variation. That is why you have to research thoroughly cases similar to yourself, and results similar to what you hope to achieve.

This will be a great result. Your hair quality certainly has improved comparing your pictures from a year and a half ago to the day before surgery. Good Work!