Blackweasel

Its a hard one, I think youre result is not too bad. Maybe just fill in the remaining gap and add some density? Also a possible option is to use some body hair as to not exhaust your donor in case you need future treatment. Wish you luck with any decision you end up making.

Thanks Jjsrader, I may give it a go after all. low dose topical....ill be getting my blood work done soon and will go from there. My goal is to reduce test a little but not to eradicate testosterone.

Hey guys, Im researching drugs for my second stage after 12 months of Fina, Duta, RU58841 and minoxidl (plus supplements). If this doesnt work I want to build up a plan B of stronger medications to try and regenerate my thinning crown (pic attached). I have read on an article (attached) that topical spironolactone has no/ minimal sides compared to taking it orally. Is this true? Has anyone here had success from topical spirolactone? I am ok with some sides as I would eventually shift to maintain vs regrow hair and my libido etc should come back then. I just dont want gyno at all, thats the only side I want to avoid. Again this will only be taken if my current regimen doesnt work in 12 months time. I really really really dont want to go bald. Thanks, Sam

Here is my 3175 grafts at Dr.Cinik. I think this is close to what I was promised as far as graft number goes. Maybe give another Dr a go and use some beard hair to fill in the noticeable gap so you preserve your donor. My operation also took 8 hours and was DHI method. Cost was 3090 euro. Also 200 or so implanted into crown.

How much Minoxidl were you applying? Foam or liquid based? Did you derma roll? Also did you take AR5 blockers or any other hair loss drugs that synergised with the minoxidl?

Heres what Donor is currently looking like and also a pic of full head. I have full coverage now but with bad thinning all over which I may be anle to reverse. My hairloss started with trenbolone, an anabolic steroid 7 years ago. hoping for decent recovery in donor over next few weeks. I will also start dermarolling when my roller arrives in the post next week. Im expecting the transplanted area to thicken up in the next 4 months.

Im going on a strong regimen 2.5 mg fin in 2 doses of 1.25 mg morning and before bed. Also starting dutasteride soon 0.5mg daily , ket shampoo and RU58841, I also take saw palmetto and Biotin daily + multivit. I will give this regimen a year and if it doesnt work ill move on to stronger stuff. Dont really care about sides atm and just want my hair back. I can then lower dosages to maintain and recover libido etc but from what ive seen regrowth mostly happens with stronger regimens only. I want to thicken the original non transplanted area as much as possible. I am a diffuse thinner nw7 pattern and now that I have gotten my FUE done for my hairline I need to make sure MPB doesnt accelerate since im still 25 years old. I think the crown is already slowly thickening going off daily images im taking hair also is feeling courser. I also want to research very small doses of estro if all else doesnt work and maybe cypro. Heres pics of my crown 2 weeks ago and now, I will continue taking pics as I go....

Yeah redness is gone, just some irritation in donor left.

Thanks mate, Now feels like slowly into the ugly duckling phase.... still on 2.5mg finasteride, saw palmetto, supplements etc.

Another pic now at day 8 after 3170 grafts FUE. Im pretty happy with quick healing and hoping for good result. I was shedding with Minoxidl prior so hoping all will come together in 6 months- 1 year time. Started finasteride 2 months ago, Minoxidl foam 3 months, Saw palmetto oral 7 days ago + biotin and vitamin supplements. Also mixing little crushed saw palmetto and finasteride with the minoxidl foam, nothing to loose so going all out giving my hair last chance lol

Thanks for input. I have perservered and am still using minoxidl foam. Ive shaved to lower guard tho makes it easier for absorbtion. Goku did u also derma roll?

Update: 6 and 8 days after FUE No noticeable shedding thus far and most scabs came off without hairs attached which is good.

Thanks champ! Same to you

Wouldnt know exact amount and there would be fluctuation. I was in there for 8 hours and had my team with me the whole time. Heres my head today, no scabbing thus far. I did get a swollen head but think this is normal. I think its looking good?

I am 25 years old. He just draws the hairline, Cinik seemed pretty busy and I was left in the hands of a young team of 3-4. In saying this they were extremely proffessional and I really dont think they couldve done anything better than they have. I also think they were from Turkey, they were chatting in turkish through the procedure. Choi pens were in rotation being loaded with grafts and passed along refilled etc. I am thoroughly impressed and dont think the doctor himself not doing the procedure is an issue, especially considering the techs are so talented. Hope I heal well as in a month need to wear a helmet for work. Half the discomfort has already subsided over night. You also get clearly labelled meds and instructions, hotel and transfers included in the price. We can only wait for results now, cant wait for the ugly duckling phase lol !!

Hey all follicle fighters, Finally took the plunge and went to Turkey for my HT. All went well and got 3175 grafts FUE extraction with DHI insertion. Doctor Cinik was hesitant to touch crown and midscalp due to possible shock loss as my hair is thin and finasteride needs time to work as only been on it 2 months (this is also advice I got on this forum: Thank you!). The worst part by far was the initial anaesthesia injections hurt like a cunt. All the rest was easy tho and you do get used to it really quick, almost was fun! Lucky for me, we had very few extra grafts at the end of the session and I suggested to implant on crown area. Doubting when and if I should continue with Minoxidl after transplant as had kept getting excessive shed with it. What do others think? I had used it for 2 months prior. a little history for me: my hair has seen it all. First accutane at 15 years old caused thinning, then anabolic steroids (tren dianabol test) at 18 years old ruined what was left. I also have MPB in the family, even some woman loose their hair in their 70s so I will be on finasteride for life. I will update with pictures as the journey progressess. Before and after OP pics attached, I am very optimistic with this surgery! Thanks, Sam

Hey all, Ive been using minoxidl for the last 8weeks and am getting too much daily loss and shedding. Started off with liquid 5% then switched to foam 5% twice daily. Im easily loosing well over a hundred hairs daily, this was alot less before I started. Theres hair everywhere and considering my hair was already thinning I really dont know what to do. Also I get healthy thick hairs being shed, not just thinning hair. Most of it is also coming from top of head. I get really concerned when i read that Minoxidl has caused permanent hair loss in other users. What does everyone think? When did shedding stop for other users? Im genuinely afraid im going to go bald real fast with this drug. Thanks, Sam

Maybe an option to get a mini procedure to fill in the gap? Maybe like 700 grafts as a guess? It would really improve the look, just a noob thought.

Looks nice man. Hope you get nice results and all the goodness it brings with it!!!

Thanks for your reply, its great youve held onto so much hair. Hopefully ill look like that when im 40!

My friend, this is something I should probably not say.... but you have been so lucky with your hair and over all look. Why would you consider nose job etc? This is none of my business but these procedures can become addictive and the end results I find look worse and sometimes clearly altered especially on men. I would be so happy how your hair went and would be so happy to get your HT results haha! Again I apologise for saying this but I would just be happy with the hair and stop there, be grateful for what you have

So since youre hair situation has been stable for so long, have you been on medications this whole time? Are you on finasteride/propecia or other DHT blockers?

Looks good, I would expect it to thicken further in the following months. Keep us updated :)

Thanks Hair Today, are you happy thus far? cheers

Hey Jjsrader, Thanks for your feedback! yeah I guess the emotion and guilt comes from the fact that I didnt naturally go bald initially. I basically ruined my teenage years through the use of anabolic steroids and the resulting hair loss. I have been balding and isolated from social life since age 17. I want to turn things around this year as since im 25 I can now understand my time to do so is very limited, I have also lost 26kg and gained an athletic physique. I was thinking oral and topical finasteride combo, minoxidl foam and possibly oral minoxidl, saw palmetto, zinc and biotin I will also look into the laser cap treatment. I think I will get DHT blocking shampoo from Hair transplant clinic. Basically I chose Cinik as have seen a fair few extraordinary HT by him on this forum and only a single bad one. He also seems to be a trustworthy person at face value and this is valuable to me. I have seen some really expensive clinics get bad results on here also one of which is meant to be the best in Turkey. Also their replies and customer care thus far have been on point and timely unlike other clinics. I am also offering to send them an extra $1000+ if my HT goes well, it will mean the world to me. I am also hoping I have a strong and thick donor area but only the dr can verify this. I only get 3 weeks off a year in December so I have to bite the bullet and do it within this time frame. In honesty im not too fussed about double grafts on hairline etc as my hair is always longer with fringe hairline is never visible, I am mainly after total cover and frontal density at this point. Ofcourse I would appreciate and prefer a neater job that looks natural. I am also happy to transplant beard and body hair, doesnt bother me at all and in honesty my body hair is very similar to some of my thinning hair in being black, wavy and similar-ish texture. Some spectacular Cinik results ive seen: https://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/topic/52116-dr-cinik-june-2018/?tab=comments#comment-481551 (this one is unbelievable!) https://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/topic/50151-3500-scheduled-with-dr-cinik-1212/?tab=comments#comment-463171 https://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/topic/50215-drcinik-hairtransplantation-3600-grafts-from-headchest-and-beard/?tab=comments#comment-463746 Thanks for your feedback, much appreciated. Sam