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Another poster made the point already but worth repeating: Hasson - 30 years at an Elite level > 30 years X 150 transplants a year = 4,500 HT's to his name.........I'm sure he's seen it all and learned from it......oodles and oodles of great results, patent posted, clinic posted going back years etc etc. Bloxham- 5 years at 150 transplants a year = 750 HT's to his name........with some great results i must admit Also a financial technical point - you would be converting the relatively weak Canadian dollar to pay Bloxham in USD............while its my understanding that H&W charge USD to international patients but local CAD to folks from Canada..........my guess then would be that H&W would come out cheaper for the same amount of grafts?

Diep is a somewhat divisive doctor on this board. Lots of "home run" results...........one very recently I think...mixed with some quirks that dont conform with elite doctors......like Konior, Hasson, Wesley, Dorin Three recently discussed are: (1) lack of micro- irregularity in his hairlines......i.e. lines of hair placed like a row of soldiers....actually in that "home run" case....leaving it slightly below perfect (2) strange doner management using FUE - where he only removes hair from one side of the head leaving the subsequent doner hair thinned out as opposed to spreading extractions all across safe zone

+1 his posted results look great, he seems to be well respected in the community and has been doing a lot of research around scarless FUE suggesting a real innovator / expert in his field........his "scarless" FUE approach where the follicular unit is taken from below the scalp by making a small 1cm incision and then working underneath the scalp to extract grafts is a very interesting approach.

Top class - sometimes wonder why Wesley rarely ends up in people top 5 in North America....results are always super impressive would be interested in the “timing of hair growth after surgery” link you linked above......it only links back to this page again would like to see it?

Sorry to hear that - but you've been given great advise by H&W and Konior + other doctors who have nothing to gain, in fact have something to lose, by telling you the truth...........you were very prudent to double/triple check with top docs. I would proceed with trying perhaps other solutions outside the Big 3 but I'm afraid they sit outside the Big 3 for a reason because their efficacy is questionable - at a certain point i think it wise to just accept the situation. You'll find freedom in that. Finally I would say this the frustration/disappointment you have right now would pale in comparison to the depression/ issues you would have had as a result of an unethical failed procedure. Imagine if you had proceeded with Dr.Diep advise who was happy to put you in the chair when Turkish clinics + HW + Konior had said NO. @Melvin-Moderator i take your point on Diep......but this board should also be ready to identify when a once top tier surgeons standard/practices quite clearly begin to slip.......human nature is such that as one gets rich and comfortable, as I'm sure Diep has, one's hunger, focus & professionalism can slip. Ironically it can make some even more greedy and more inclined to 'reach' for that extra dollar. This thread is one example of Diep "slipping" and being will to operate on this guy, taking doner hair from one side of the head in an FUE procedure making a mockery of doner management best practice is another.

Diep never met a dollar he didn’t like......from what I can see just because you swing for the fences and hit a home run every now and again doesn’t make you an elite player....Diep pumps out enough results to feed YouTube.......the not so lucky end up here. Of course my opinion but one which Is increasing I feel amongst this community.

May 2019 - Rejected by Erdogan for weak donor area. June 2019 - In person eval from Rosanelli (also rejected me for weak donor area). June 2019 - In person eval from Diep (estimated 2,000-5,000 hair grafts to cover the frontal area. The FUE prices are $16,500 for 2,000 grafts and $19,500 for 2,500 grafts. The FUT prices are $12,000 for 2,500 grafts and $20,000 for 4,500 grafts). He was not concerned with my weak donor area - which in itself is a bit concerning as two other HT surgeons had concerns. Given the comments and cases I’ve seen recently on this forum..........why am I not surprised at Diep being happy to proceed where others wouldn’t.......... only thing I could add would be to try PRP with doctors who developed a protocol that works.....Dr Arocha seems to be one....perhaps big three + PRP could be final nudge needed to see regrowth.......if feedback is weak doner and meds arent stabilizing hair loss currently I would be hugely hestitant around doing anything HT related

Its surgery - things can get so much worse - edge cases include necrosis, infections, shock loss and hair doest come back. Hair implanted has low density outcome and looks strange......so now you've traded your high but dense & natural looking hairline for lower wispy possibly unnatural looking hairline. You've more hair but your worse off. Your hair looks great - no outward appearance to the casual observer of what I would call stone cold he's losing hair "look"

Save money, work extra hours, stop getting takeaway’s this is the most important medical decision of your life so far - don’t go to Turkey cause it’s cheap forget cost now and think long term 30-40yrs long term go to couto, hattingon, devorye, bisanga, Hassan, arocha, wesselly,

Dr.Hasson, Dr.Carlos Wesley & Dr.Konior - the current three posting the best "homerun" results in North America from what I can see of recent clinic and patient own postings. Dr.Rahal was in the mix previously for FUT but something seems slightly amiss about the feedback from Rahal recently. For large strip mega-sessions of 5,000 grafts or more like you'd need - I think Dr.Hasson seems to be a leader in this space in both grabbing as much hair in one session as possible and leaving a great scar. In Europe Hattigen Hair seem to be doing very big FUT cases too.

Supposed to be side effect free - or certainly patients who couldn’t tolerate oral fin seem to be able to tolerate topical with no resumption of sides they displayed with oral Are you North America based? Let us know what options you discover - H&W option I believe is only for Canadian residents

I think you've got a lot more maturing to go and some more 'new' growth. Dr.Bloxham had a good guideline on here called Popping, Growing & Maturing - see below - whats outlined is HT's on average......you do seem a little ahead of the curve so i would say a 'fast grower' but undoubtedly you have more popping to go Of course the short version is from what I can see is that if all progress stopped right now - you are in the top 5% of results on this site or any other in terms of density/naturalness etc.

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Hair looks great and natural and Dr.Hasson did a great job on the front. Have you tried topical Fin??? - H&W are doing this now for Canadian patients and it seems to have all the benefits of oral fin with none/infinitely lower probabilty of sides (as it goes less systematic than oral fin). I'm presuming you got off Fin because of side issues? Perhaps trying this for a while could be an option to recover crown. Topical Fin is available in Europe from compounding pharmacies in Milan etc.. The full science isn't out yet on it but anecdotally clinics that have partnered with compounding pharmacies are seeing excellent efficacy in patients for which oral fin has presented a problem. Given emerging NW5 / 6 pattern. My gut for you would be to max out FUT for any further work, start scalp laxity exercises NOW and your FUT2 scar should be the same as you have now - FUT is obviously cheaper with poorer recovery time but it is undoubtedly the most conservative approach and leaves you in better shape for anything up the road that might be required which could be done with FUT/FUE. Not much has changed since 2010 and Dr.Hasson is STILL in the global ELITE doctor category - you know Top 3 or wherever you want to draw the line. If i was you I wouldn't be thinking of going anywhere else but back to that clinic. Like others have said Dr.Wong is the king of crowns so some combo of Hasson/Wong will be great.

Dr Bloxham has some great recent results - however I would caution that Dr.Bloxham is relatively new as compared to other options with super long track records in NYC - I've seen some pretty amazing results coming from Dr Carlos Wesley in NYC - if you stack up recent patient and clinic results from True/Dorin, Bloxham, Bernstein, Wesley........I dont think anyone is coming close to Wesley for number of homeruns...........next I would say True/Dorin for the extensive track record......Bloxham is coming up however but if you asked each doctor for their total transplants performed in their career I think he would be well behind these guys and I'd like a doctor who's seen every possible situation in their career or in the OR

My guess with the extreme dense packing that was done in this area, it’s likely Dr.Hasson........don’t see anyone in North America or anywhere else with the surgical skill to pack em as tight as Hasson in the right situation for guys with medium to minimal hair loss like yourself......your result will be a home run....it’s already a home run 🤩

Considering leaving staples in for a little longer than the 14 days recommended by my surgeon. I'll also ask him but wanted the communitys view. Reason for doing this is this is my second FUT and laxity was a definitely reduced vs FUT no.1 and things were a bit tighter for sure post-op........so I'm somewhat concerned around stretching (1st surgery was OK scar wise about average I'd say) and given that the wound significantly increases strength in the early part of the healing it seems all things being equal leaving the staples in for longer will reduce the probability of stretching. Dont trust me Dr.Bernstein seems to think so leaving them in during certain cases for 21 days - https://www.bernsteinmedical.com/answers/when-are-surgical-staples-removed-after-hair-transplant/. They don't bother me so think that 18 or 19 days will be fine for me. Any downside anyone can think of? Again I WILL talk to my surgeon also