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Is the XYON topical DUT daily @Melvin- Moderator? Looks like it is - I thought the dream with Topical Dut might be the application cadence was only going to be a couple of times a week, given half-life etc.? Great if you know the reasoning or a good Q for the future podcast.

Pretty clear to me: (1) Medical therapy - propecia/dut/rogaine.....to halt loss & strengthen existing hair with perhaps some recovery of ground in hairline there too (2) Small-ish strategic FUE transplants to "fill in" strengthen the recovered hairline from (1) (3) then for those times when he looks "unreal", its because its unreal......its a hair system that further augments (1) & (2) and takes him to Hollywood red carpet hair level....which disappears again when he's doing ya know a Zoom interview for his book and is at home in his PJ's and no hair stylist /system person

Apologies missed that - wow never heard of him…..one for the secret heroes list

As this clearly turns into a “home run” result you’ve got to share the doctors name…..this community is about sharing and your case is a very intersting & unique one in terms of the density pursued…..as this point everyone here would like to know and frankly your doctor would appreciate it…..as clearly this doctor has IMO knocked it out of the park and shown a level of skill that few posses to go so high density in one pass

Who would dismiss a well of unlimited grafts….not me would love it…..what I’m dismissing is what appears to be a misplaced belief that somehow hair cloning as a solution is even worth the cheap ink spilled on hair loss forums like this. It’s fantasy , it belongs more in a science fiction forum than in hairloss forums. No serious work/research is being done on this ‘area’ currently….and I put area in quotes because it isn’t even an area being pursued by anybody seriously. That’s how far away from the reality hair cloning fantasies are.

Listen hair cloning - is way the down the priority list of body parts requiring research and expirmentation to be cloned. Dream on. The thing that people should be very very excited about and really seem not to be - is the development of proven topical dustastride from someone like Hasson & Wong, in a formulation that has close to zero systemic absorption, excellent scalp subcutaneous DHT removal AND no impact on circulating DHT levels. Something like this might require application once a week perhaps. Given long term finasteride studies in Japan have shown something like 92% of propecia users maintained or improved their hair follicle count over 10 years….https://www.oatext.com/Long-term-(10-year)-efficacy-of-finasteride-in-523-Japanese-men-with-androgenetic-alopecia.php. My expectation would be that a dutasteride topical would be like 99% effective in basically halting hair loss forever in 99% of patients. In a world where you could walk into to Konior / Hasson & Wong / Gabel / Bisanga / Couto……..and say ok I guarantee you I wont lose a single hair on head from this day forward to androgen alopecia opens a world of possibilities….effectively every zone on your head becomes a doner zone……7000 / 8000 FUE’s could be performed safe in the knowledge that the patients balding wasn’t going to progress

From your original post it seems like you know there are some other factors going, forgive me if I’m wrong here - but you slipped in mentions of sleep, stress, anxiety, lack of excercise…..………..most people are looking for an external factor when health issues arise……..its hard sometimes to look within and assign fault to your own failure to look after yourself or address underlying issues in your life causing stress. Easier perhaps to blame/focus on propecia as the culprit. Listen propecia might be a factor in what your experiencing, its possible for sure………but if your crusiing into your 40’s, dont sleep much, eat tonnes of sugar/carbs, drink alcohol, are at worst overweight or at best just cardiovascularly unfit and are stressed out your head with high levels of cortisol running around your system. Well ya know sexual sides is what you’d expect to happen to a guy like that NOT taking Propecia. Specialized health care professionals like urologists and GP’s - like SINGLE item solutions to problems…….getting off propecia is a great single solution direction……or take X pill that should fix it…….its the way the system works in and out the door in 20 minutes or less……..I’d suggest going to more of a functional medical approach where the doc or docs are trying to address all the factors i listed above…..sleep, cortisol, fitness, body composition, diet, blood level deficiencies (vitamin d), insulin resistance, stress/anxiety strategies etc etc. Sorry went on a bit too much and took some broad leaps in assumptions but you get my point

Sorry to see this happen to you its very frustrating - go to Hasson & Wong if West Coast focused…….literally wouldn’t dream of going anywhere else in N.A….you’ve very little wriggle room to fix things up given amount grafts taken in first FUT, size of the scar itself & area to be covered in second pass. When grafts are at a premuim only go next to the true elites like H&W, Konior. In regards to Diep…….& watching this forum…….I’ve seen too many of his FUT scares display stretching/poor closures……..I’m not sure if he’s too aggressive re: size of the strips or simply his closure technique lacks elite level skill/care……but I’ve seen enough on here whereby I wouldn’t let the guy FUT my worst enemies head. His corn row placing continues to bug me every time i see it in post-op pics………it fails the central tenet of all cosmetic surgery which is naturalness……nature does not corn row your follicular units…..depending on density, hair caliber, graft yield Diep gets away with this on lots of cases…..but its a terrrible approach to take……and indicative IMO of surgeon failing to reach the true elite of the elite in terms technique/professionalism etc. @BDK081522 ‘s highlighting of technical failure of temple point graft direction above is pretty damning - again points to a surgeon who falls short of the elite standard

Sticking around and getting your scalped cleaned by the clinic is an under appreciated service that H&W provide. Lots of clinics tend not to offer it and send you off with a sheet of paper with instructions.................but trust me given every HT patients nervousness you will for sure under clean the area being concerned you might damage grafts etc...............which only serves to extend the period where your not very presentable with scabs etc.....under cleaning can in cases lead to graft loss too if scabs become to dense etc. My advice is chill & take the extra couple of days, enjoy Vancouver......get the scalp washed a minimum of two times, even three times.........its going to pay dividends in terms of when your presentable enough to see friends etc. The FUE work H&W do is so immaculate that with washing and your already existing short hair you could be back in public a week or so after the op with nobody giving you a second glance

Your going to one of the best, if not they best clinic in the world.........I wish you well & glad to see the world open up so folks can get back on airplans again. Wondering whats the game plan with the 4k FUE's......hairline and into the mid-scalp?.......or you aiming to hit the crown with some light coverage but with an understanding that hairline/mid-scalp is the priority?

Wow, just wow.......IMO hairline is perfect..........lowering the hairline and sacrificing density in the process is always the wrong decision........a HT is for life.....you grow into a higher hairline as you age......go too low (with a lack of density too) and a HT ages badly over time....I spot these 'how low can you go' HT hairlines all the time out in the wild and once your 55+ they don't work....note at 55 you have another ~30 years on the clock....this gentleman has had any sense of 'baldness' removed from his appearance...he looks great today and at 60 years old he'll look like one of gods chosen people who have outstanding hairlines at that age

Yeah and I'd say he went and got it done during COVID sometime...........in the video below it actually looks like a transplant that hasnt fully 'softened' completely yet.... he could be only 12 months out from the procedure....it seem slightly unruly/wiry which he's kind of running with by spiking it up..... Temple points have been brought forward & strengthened (& look great) + his hairline has been lowered by maybe only half an inch all around but beefed up with density & reinforced vs. the receding/slightly thining look he had before........my guess ultra dense packing 3000 FUE.........done by Dr.Hasson or one of the European doctors...Dr.Couto probably......the fact this is one and done procedure by the looks of it means a dense pack master at work

Go to the best in the biz (Konior / Hasson Wong) and let them come up with a game plan…your in Canada so Hasson/Wong seems like a great option...I’m certain they could work wonders but what I can assure you with those two doctors is that they’ll do the RIGHT thing for you. I could see even a few hundred FUE grafts…strategically placed would completely change the game, disguise the old plugs and give you a nice age appropriate light framing of the face Life’s too short to be unhappy and with todays procedures and going to the best in the biz any risks that do exist are now so small that for you I think its a non brainer to go and get something done with Konior/Hasson or Wong

Hi @washingtondc I’m sorry your having a tough time. I really really suggest you reach out to Dr.Wesley and share your concerns…..his post operative photos in conjunction with his expert opinion on what approach he took and why is the correct thing for you to do. Asking the internet for its opinion……when you’ve handed over $k’s a couple of weeks to an expert who has a duty of care to you…..…..is kind of crazy. Call Dr.Wesley and setup a time to talk to him over Zoom….ask for intra-operative and post-operative photos & share your concerns.

No because I can assure you by now some/alot of the hairs have shed the shaft without you even noticing leaving only the root under the skin......not every future hair is going to be represented now by a little stub. Your engaged in fruitless exercise of examination.......trust the process.....trust the doctor you choose.....you think Dr.Weselsey somehow forgot how to do hairtransplants just on the day you were in with him. Ive said it before but will say it again - you went to a great doctor....that was all you needed to do......staring at zoomed in photos wont change a thing now (& to suspect the worst is a waste of your time). Your results are now baked in the cake.....you'll see them fully in 12-18 months. Suggest if your FUD is out of control and dominating your thinking....you should scedule a meeting with Dr.Wesley and write down all your question. He also I'm sure has high def inter-operative and post-operative photos.....ask for those and you'll have a closer representation of what grafts were implanted where and by how much.