matt3480

Hair caliber is number 1. If you have fine hair, it will take an insane amount of grafts to make it dense. End of story. I have naturally fine hair.....and when my 2 HT's started to grow in....I now realize the new hair grew in at a medium or maybe slightly above medium (in other words, between medium and coarse) thickness. It was great! However, as my HT matured....that hair matured into fine hair like I naturally have everywhere else. That made it easier to manage but I definitely lost some density due to the maturing from medium into fine due to the fact the diameter of my hair shaft got smaller. I look great, trust me.....but whereas it's taken or will take 4k-5k grafts to get a dense result for me likely would only take someone with medium hair 3000-3500 grafts (and those with coarse hair maybe even less). You definitely are at a disadvantage overall if you have fine hair. I agree hair caliber is probably even more important than density. I would bet someone with 40 grafts per square cm and coarse hair looks much thicker than someone with fine hair and 60 grafts per square cm.

I was pretty red too for a few months. You have blonde hair and very fair skin.....the red skin is going to stick out like a sore thumb over other people with dark hair or darker skin. I seemed to get over the hump when I started using aloe vera religiously.....I would put a ton on and when it dried in a few hours I put more on. I did this every day for weeks and weeks. You can't over expose to aloe vera....put it on as much as you can as often as you can. It really is pretty amazing stuff. I agree it does not appear to be inflammatory-related so I don't know that I would use steroids....I have heard that can affect yield. By the way, my HT turned out great.

You have hair greed, plain and simple, and that's OK. Just remember to look at your before pics versus now. You had no hair whatsoever in the front. You have dark hair and light skin....a large contrast. I know for a fact that just about all surgeons will say a second pass is required to increase density. Your hair looks great right now....and you seem to have good caliber hair and donor. 98% of people would be happy with that hair...you just seem to be one of those 2% who feel "perfection" is in reach. Nothing wrong with that....but if anything, it's a testament to how much you improved with one transplant and only 2700 grafts.

Very good results....remember, that's in bright light. VERY FEW transplants are going to look 100% full in bright light. Heck, most people without thinning are going to have scalp showing in bright light.

Big difference for only 550 grafts.....lucky patient!

You don't seem to have hair loss from the pics you post. You may have a higher forehead/hairline genetically but there isn't much you can do about that short of having a HT to lower the hairline. Use some longer hairstyles in the front to combat that....I wouldn't be stressed about it. A high hairline due to MPB and a high hairline genetically are two different things. I definitely would not be even thinking about wigs for something like this....it will do way more harm than good.

I actually just started doing cold/lukewarm rinsing the last few weeks. Using really hot water can dry your skin, scalp, and hair out. Using cold or lukewarm water keeps those essential oils on your scalp. Will it cause you to grow more hair? No. Is it better for maintenance? I would say yes....especially if you are prone to dry skin/scalp issues. Same goes for shampooing.....you really should only shampoo once or twice per week, if that. Otherwise, you are stripping those essential oils and drying out your hair and scalp. Again, will it make hair fall out? No.....but does hydrated hair look and feel thicker than dried out hair? Absolutely no doubt.

Looks good Ernie! You must be thrilled! Curious, how long do you think your hair was in those pics (when you felt it was longest)...like 10.5 month, etc?

Hey there, welcome. All is good! Dr. K posted some pics in August on here of when I went to see him then. Check through my posts and you should able to find it. I'm going to get one last small procedure in the next couple of months by Dr. K just to basically finish everything off. I have the donor left so I might as well take advantage.... I think as my pics in August showed....the more amazing part is how the donor area was managed. I have seen some surgeons take 600-700 grafts and totally screw up a donor area and make it look really thin. Dr. K has taken 4,000 or so grafts and you really just can't tell at all in the donor.....

Typical killer Italian hair caliber.....

I think it depends on what was said before the person disappeared. When I see someone who had bad results after 4-5 months suddenly disappear (especially when they have logged in since).....honestly my first thought is the surgeon got ahold of him and told him to keep quiet (I would hope under the promise that the surgeon will fix any issues the patient still has at a later date). People who had some good initial results and then disappear likely do so because they are living their life and could care less about coming back to discuss past hair problems that are now moot. I feel if someone really has a bad result and is getting screwed by their surgeon.....it's 2017.....you're going to hear about it on some message board somewhere. My hair issues are pretty much gone (hey, you can't ever have too much hair) but I do like to give back to the community. There seems to be a lot of misinformation out there and I feel bad for people who get bad results because they chose to go to the cheapest place or saw some fancy commercial on TV. I try to steer people in the right direction. I'm in Chicago and I see some of these surgeons' (who I am familiar with) ads with celebrity patients, etc. who I would never let touch my head in a million years (and somehow could probably get me in next week for a surgery date). Then you have guys like Konior who don't advertise at all yet are probably a MINIMUM of 12 months booked out and just does an all-world job. Blake, good work on that patient by the way! You seem like you are truly passionate about hair restoration as you've been on this site since way before you actually were a surgeon. The industry needs more doctors like that...and less unqualified doctors who simply look at hair transplantation as another revenue stream for their practice.

Yep, I think people talk too much about numbers and don't realize that hair characteristics are uber important when it comes down to it. A person with coarse hair might only need 1k grafts to achieve the same coverage that a fine-haired person received with 2k grafts or more. All a lot of people pay attention to are graft counts and density per square CM.

Go see Konior....I had similar "temple corners" or lack of. You seem to have stronger temple points but the corners are recessed/too far back and it makes you look more recessed than you are. Good thing is it's easily fixable. Dr. K did about 800 single hair grafts and it brought mine out a lot and really reduced the width of the forehead. I don't feel density is as important on the temple corners as on top because the hair lays in a different direction. I look to have pretty full density where he did those 800 and I have really fine textured hair. Not all surgeons will touch temple points or temple corners.....and certainly even fewer are good at it.

Let it grow out before you judge..... Your hair looks to lay towards the side you feel is too high and it seems to be a bit wavy. Thus, as your hair grows in and gets a bit of length it will lay over that higher side and likely look straight. My hairline is pretty symmetrical.....however, my hair lays from left to right and also is a bit wavy. Thus, when it grows out....the right side actually looks much lower than my left side (just because that's how it lays). I'd have to have a juvenile hairline on my left side in order to match how my hair lays on the right side.....and obviously that would look silly. In other words, do not worry at this point.

There is nothing to know.... This is the Internet, people spout off all the time. Half of the "bad" reviews of surgeons on this site are from people upset their transplanted hair "is falling out" a month after their transplant. I think you catch my drift. I'm a results person. People talk a lot online.....normally with very little to back up their talk because they are anonymous and can make stuff up pretty easily. Look at Konior RESULTS. That's all that matters. You can get a lot of people on this site who have emailed or consulted with Dr. K and got fast replies, etc. but never actually had surgery with him. Take it from people like myself....and others who have posted on here who actually have had surgery with him. You see the pics, you see the results. Like you said, it's elective head surgery. You need to go with someone who is not only good...but is ethical. He will tell you straight out whether your expectations are unreasonable for your HT, the pros/cons of FUE vs FUT, etc. I don't look at myself as a cheerleader because I sing his praises. I've seen so many bad results on this site and I feel for those people because I know hair loss or a botched HT can bury someone's self-esteem and someone's pocketbook. I just feel it's my ethical duty as a person and HT recipient to let people know how quality he is as a surgeon....and I'm obviously not alone. I don't like seeing people going to surgeon's because one guy is the cheapest or promised this or that. This is a serious surgery and in the right hands can change most peoples' lives.

Nanogen should be fine. I would stay away from Dermmatch or products you have to actually apply to the scalp. There has been some anecdotal evidence that it could negatively affect growth.

I disagree with most here. If you feel it's an issue and you have the donor, do it. You are 33....not like you are 21. Sure, some say don't risk it as your hair looks good. However, I say take that element of risk out and go to someone like Konior and you basically take away the risk and basically are guaranteed it's going to get fixed. He is the expert on repairing other surgeon's horrible or even just average work. If you feel the one side is that uneven....get it fixed, too. You definitely want both sides to be consistent....especially if they are crooked enough to notice. I can't tell from your pics how noticeable it really is in real life. However, if you are going to go to some surgeon on the corner.....then yeah, you have to balance whether it's worth it.

mosd, about 800.....all singles. It was more than the actual points, though....Dr. K also slightly brought out the area above the points. Even when I was an adolescent with all my hair, my natural hairline didn't have much in terms of temple points. As a result, this always made my hair loss look more extensive than it was (because it made my forehead appear wider). Hair-wise....I want to say I had about 8,000-9,000 hairs. I think the more amazing part about my results is the fact that I have fine textured hair. A lot of the HT results I've seen on patients with fine hair have been real mediocre because you just don't get the amount of coverage from a specific number of grafts versus someone who has normal caliber or coarse hair. Luckily, I have a bit of a wave in my hair once it gets over 1.5 inches or so....so it gives me a large appearance of coverage/density all over the place once I'm at that length versus, say, my pre-op pics for my 2nd transplant (where my hair was buzzed down to maybe 1/4 inch). Newhair....best money I've spent. I've seen far too many horror stories on these forums from people who paid probably the same amount I did and had horrible results and now are screwed because their donor is used up. Dr. K is as sure of a bet as there is. hsrp, that other case was definitely impressive. I think a lot of us would kill to have that little thinning at age 50 where a small surgery (1500-1750 grafts) can basically give you a perfect hairline and take literally 20 years off how old you look. Temple points are where the artistry comes in. I think a lot of surgeons won't touch them because if done incorrectly, it can make you look really for the worse....even with a good hairline.

How did I miss this post!? This is indeed me! Mosd....I've been on Propecia for almost 2 years now. Also, my family history has some hair loss but not NW 6-7 type-loss so I don't feel I'll ever progress anywhere near that far. My father and older brother have pretty much all their hair.....my grandfather on my father's side is 90 and has a full head of hair and my grandfather on my mother's side was maybe a NW4 (if even that) at age 65 when he died. HTSoon.....my hair on the sides/back was indeed very short in that pic (probably a number 4 guard at the top of the sides and maybe a number 2 at the bottom). You simply can't tell that I had anything done in the donor areas. It's a credit to Dr. K's expertise in managing a patient's donor area. ontop, shadow.....trust me, the temple points helped make these results great. I'm hoping to get one final smaller procedure (basically the cherry on top) and then will be done. I can't say enough about Dr. K and his work....this is why the other Matt (in the UK) and I have been such huge cheerleaders for Dr. K....the results speak for themselves and it all looks completely natural (both donor and recipient). There isn't a better surgeon in the world in my opinion.

Gel will always make your hair look thinner. As others have said, get a matte paste or clay and blow drying also helps. I've also noticed being hydrated helps A LOT. I watch my hair like a hawk now since I've had my 2 transplants and notice every little change with it (I guess I'm obsessive like that). If you are dehydrated after a night of drinking, etc.....your hair is going to look thinner the next day and possibly for a couple days. When that happens to me, it always takes a couple days of drinking lots of water for it to appear and feel "normal" after.

Aloe vera helped me a lot......use lots of it, too. Your skin absorbs it so you can't overuse will never be an issue.

I am the other Matt that UK Matt posted the thread of. I've had about 4,000 grafts taken via FUE from Dr. K. My stylist really takes me in tight on the sides and back (I would probably say about a 2 guard) and I don't feel it's noticeable, at all. He is definitely a master at managing the donor area and that's very important in a FUE case let alone on someone who has gotten multiple FUE surgeries. I feel the donor got better over time in terms of appearance. A few months after my first surgery I wasn't confident I would be able to ever go that low but the skin was still healing. I've had 2 with Dr. K now (16 months out on my first and almost 9 months on my second) and I feel the donor looks normal (pre-op condition regarding the color, etc). Skin and scarring can take a year to 24 months to fully heal according to Dr. K. You simply wouldn't know I've had a transplant in either the donor or recipient at this point. I think that's the best compliment you can give a HT surgeon.

Yes, like Lorenzo said. What caliber hair is your native hair? Is it naturally very fine.....coarse....normal? When I had my first HT....I felt I was a bit thicker at 4-5 months than I was a month or two later (I literally could see the change). However, I realized I have very fine native hair. With many people, the initial growth from a transplant is quite coarse and hard to style (the coarseness was great for us fine-haired guys since it covers more). However, as it matured....it turned into the same finer hair I had elsewhere (which was easier to style) and now matches the rest of my head. It wasn't a big change....but it was just enough that I noticed. I was getting haircuts every 2 weeks starting at month 5 (just taking off like 1/2 inch) and wondered what was going on from months 5-7. I realized each hair cut was taking off 1/2 inch of my initial coarser growth and thus my normal finer hair was what was left after 3-4 haircuts. I wasn't losing or thinning any more. With most people who have normal or coarse hair.....if their initial hair grows in coarse....they probably wouldn't notice any difference from when it first grows in to when it is done maturing. However, fine-haired guys don't have that luxury. I had my second HT 6 months ago and really haven't noticed the same effect. I think I grew in pretty close to my native hair caliber right away when the second HT started growing. Maybe it's a first HT thing, not sure.

Forget recommendations, Doganay should be banned after that little situation a few months ago. More so than that, let's be honest, most of his results plainly suck anyways. Wouldn't go to him in a million years.

Maybe I'm nuts....but wasn't there a guy on here who had SMP and then suddenly was diagnosed with cancer a couple months later? Could obviously be coincidence.....but there seems to have be a lot of uncertainty regarding temporary SMP. Not willing to risk even the minute chance of getting cancer in exchange for that....