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Old 06-19-2017, 05:31 AM
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What is everybody's opinion on them? Dr. Feriduni has said I can have a consultation but have to pay 217 euros. I think this a lot of money for a 45-60 minute chat when I am there to assess if I will be spending 10k+ euros (more if you factor in the inevitable future procedures). I also think it is a sneaky way of just tying you into the clinic by getting you to invest, financially, in that particular clinic. On the other hand, Dr Feriduni is world class.

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What is everybody's opinion on them? Dr. Feriduni has said I can have a consultation but have to pay 217 euros. I think this a lot of money for a 45-60 minute chat when I am there to assess if I will be spending 10k+ euros (more if you factor in the inevitable future procedures). I also think it is a sneaky way of just tying you into the clinic by getting you to invest, financially, in that particular clinic. On the other hand, Dr Feriduni is world class.

What are people's thoughts on the matter?
I think that it is acceptable. Sure, I am glad a lot don't, but it is understandable, especially for someone that is in super high demand. It weeds the window shoppers out and makes room for the most serious. If you get surgery with him, then the money is put towards your surgical fees I believe. If 200 euros makes someone choose a doc even though they know that he isn't the right guy, then they are probably not in a financial position to get a transplant. Basically, at least in the US, it is just a doctors visit to a GP (and you only get about 10 minutes with them usually), so its not that crazy. I know a lot of plastic surgeons do this too.
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Old 06-19-2017, 06:06 PM
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I have the money so that is not the issue. I just find it immoral that they are tying you in to a particular clinic by making you pay consultation fees. I hadn't though to ask if the amount is subtracted from the total fee. If it is, it is less bad as I will probably go with Feriduni anyway. I will send them an email now to find out.
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Old 06-19-2017, 07:35 PM
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I see both sides. I understand the doctors need to not waste their time with every lookieloo who has a passing curiosity but it is fair to get to meet and find out if the doc youre choosing for this costly surgery is somebody you feel comfortable with and being charged for that seems greedy. The good news is, in the hair community the information is pretty out there so you tend to hear who has character issues etc so if you like their body of work the consults usually just a formality. I haven't heard of anybody racking up multiple costs in consults. So if youre interested exclusively by Feriduni, drop the fee and get it done. Ive never heard of a consult fee not being taken from the total if you go ahead with the op.
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Not weird imo. Some docs are really popular and they only have so much time.

You can always apply for a free online consultation.
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Old 06-22-2017, 10:45 AM
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Well, I have just got a reply from his rep and the money does not go towards the final cost of the surgery. It isn't the money itself, I just find this a bit cheeky to be honest. If I have 2-4 procedures during the course of my time with him, that will be 20-40,000 euros and he is charging 200 euros for the privilege to spend that money with him. I could understand if it would deducted from the final cost of the surgery. I do wonder, on the basis of some replies here, if this is a difference in culture between the US and Europe (even though the doctor is Euopean).
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While it's great that some doctors do free consults, I can't honestly blame doctors for collecting fees for in-person consults. For starters, most doctors do apply the fee to the cost of the procedure so if you do end up going with them, you really didn't end up paying anything. On the other hand, if doctors scheduled 5 free consultations in a day for 30 minutes each, that's 2.5 hours he's not getting paid a nickel.

Think of it this way...

When you make an apt with your general practitioner, you have to pay, even if you're just going in for a checkup or because you have the common cold. If a hair transplant surgeon is going to take an hour away from his day to focus solely on you, showing you his portfolio, answering your specific questions about your hair loss situation and coming up with a strategic plan for your needs, I think it's fair for a physician to request a consult fee.

Realistically, by the time I'm ready to sit down with a surgeon to discuss the specifics, I've already selected him. And I selected the physician based on viewing dozens of patient results of his online, a free virtual consultation and conversation on the phone, reputation on this community, etc.

And if you're choosing a surgeon that's not local, in many cases, there is no in-person consult until the day of your surgery or even the day before after you book a flight out there. And at that point, they don't charge you additional money for the consultation the day before your procedure because you're already booked.

Long story short, I think it's a nice touch and a bonus when a well respected physician offers free in-person consults. But it's definitely not necessary and I don't begrudge a physician for charging a nominal consult fee for giving up a part of his day.

Frankly, a lot of doctors who offer free consults are newer and don't have the reputation to be booked months in advance yet. Thus, they offer free consults as a way to try to get more business. Doctors who are exceptionally busy don't need to give away free consults because they're booked months in advance.

Make sense?

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Trix,

I just read your comments where you said that Dr. Feriduni's consult fee does not go to the final cost of the procedure. That's unusual to me however, I still stand by what I said. Dr. Feriduni is a world renowned surgeon, I'm certain with a long waiting list given his outstanding work. I know you said you feel like you shouldn't have to pay for a 45 to 60 minute "chat" with him, but an hour is actually a pretty long time, especially if he's scheduled multiple consults in a week or even a day.

Think about your career. If you were in high demand for whatever you did and people were lining up at your door, would you be giving away your services for free if/when you could be getting paid? I know I wouldn't.

Again, I understand your desire to get it for free. But understand that you are selecting an outstanding surgeon with a world renowned reputation. What's an extra couple hundred bucks for a lifetime of thick, natural looking hair from one of the best surgeons in the world?

That's my opinion.

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I take your point completely (I don't pay for visits to the GP though ) and it isn't the amount of money itself as 200 euros out of possibly 30k euros isn't much (it isn't much anyway) and I also appreciate he doesn't want to give his work away for free, I wouldn't. I just think the fairest way to deal with it would be 200 euros and then if you choose to go with him then it is deducted from the amount. As I said earlier, it isn't the amount itself that bothers me. It is the fact it feels like I am being "trapped into" going with this doctor by having to financially invest in him first (financial investment leading to an emotional investment).
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I take your point completely (I don't pay for visits to the GP though ) and it isn't the amount of money itself as 200 euros out of possibly 30k euros isn't much (it isn't much anyway) and I also appreciate he doesn't want to give his work away for free, I wouldn't. I just think the fairest way to deal with it would be 200 euros and then if you choose to go with him then it is deducted from the amount. As I said earlier, it isn't the amount itself that bothers me. It is the fact it feels like I am being "trapped into" going with this doctor by having to financially invest in him first (financial investment leading to an emotional investment).
I'm surprised that it does not go to the cost if you have him for the procedure too.

That said, I know that a lot of docs can be pretty generous. It is pretty common for docs to not charge for extra grafts from a strip, I see it here all of the time. I see some docs doing pro bono work on kids from injuries or tradition treatment, etc.

They run a business and should get paid for their work. But, I pointed out the above to say its not like all of these guys are swimming inside of their gold coin vaults like Scrooge McDuck.

Honestly, for supply in demand (number of really TOP docs vs number of rich balding guys), I really believe that the top 10 docs could probably increase thier prices pretty significantly and still stay booked. You'd be suprised (and so was I) the amount of people out there where money is no object and they can and would pay twice as much without really blinking.

That's one of the issues when it comes to transplants even still today (and ESPECIALLY 10 years ago), there just aren't that many premier superstar docs out there IMO.

So, yeah, the 200 euros is a bummer, buy would you rather get a free consult with Dr. Pluggy McGee?

The 200 is pretty insignificant. But, I do think that they could put it towards your procedure.
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