Regular Member Adriam Posted February 5 Regular Member Share Posted February 5 I AM ON MEDS, HAIRLOSS STABLE BEEN ON THEM FOR LONG TIME!!! i have multiple proposals for 3500grafts FIRST HT, and SECOND BEARD usage (GUR, TURAN, LAORWONG) (THEY APPROVE) NEED HELP DECIDING PLEASE IF THIS IS DUMB IDEA?? TALK ME OUT OF IT IF IT IS??!!!! WILL MY DONOR LOOK REALLY BAD AFTER HT? SCARRING ETC???!!! HELP!!!! cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member hairman22 Posted February 5 Senior Member Share Posted February 5 (edited) 40 minutes ago, Adriam said: I AM ON MEDS, HAIRLOSS STABLE BEEN ON THEM FOR LONG TIME!!! i have multiple proposals for 3500grafts FIRST HT, and SECOND BEARD usage (GUR, TURAN, LAORWONG) (THEY APPROVE) NEED HELP DECIDING PLEASE IF THIS IS DUMB IDEA?? TALK ME OUT OF IT IF IT IS??!!!! WILL MY DONOR LOOK REALLY BAD AFTER HT? SCARRING ETC???!!! HELP!!!! cheers. smp blended in with existing hair could be your best option you would ideally need an in person consultation to access how many grafts you need and have available Edited February 5 by hairman22 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Adriam Posted February 5 Author Regular Member Share Posted February 5 ive been quoted 3500 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Adriam Posted February 5 Author Regular Member Share Posted February 5 so you reckon no HT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member hairman22 Posted February 5 Senior Member Share Posted February 5 12 minutes ago, Adriam said: so you reckon no HT? i think you need an in person consultation. you can certaintly get one but i think your donor looks thin when short but good be fine hard to tell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Doron Harati Posted February 5 Senior Member Share Posted February 5 Thin donor but can get 3500 grafts for 1st session. Seems you'll be NW6 in the future, so the surgeon must preserve your donor for 2nd procedure in further years. Hairloss meds can help a lot. 1 Doron Harati - Patient coordinator for HDC Hair Clinic, HT procedures are done by MD Doctors with Microscope FUE. For consultation contact me: WhatsApp +972526542654 Mail:doronhdc@gmail.com HDC Instegram: https://instagram.com/doronhairadvisor_hdc?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= * All comments from this account should not be taken or construed as medical advice, all comments are only the personal opinions of the poster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Adriam Posted February 5 Author Regular Member Share Posted February 5 14 minutes ago, Doron Harati said: Thin donor but can get 3500 grafts for 1st session. Seems you'll be NW6 in the future, so the surgeon must preserve your donor for 2nd procedure in further years. Hairloss meds can help a lot. im on them and have been on them for years, hairloss is stablised! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Adriam Posted February 5 Author Regular Member Share Posted February 5 53 minutes ago, hairman22 said: i think you need an in person consultation. you can certaintly get one but i think your donor looks thin when short but good be fine hard to tell okay true fair! can i book and then ask the surgeon to tell me what they think, and if they cant confidently on the day tell me my donor and back of head will be okay turn me away? or would laorwong not do this?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member baddecisions Posted February 5 Regular Member Share Posted February 5 you look great in your shaved hair, keep it and enjoy life away from surgical procedures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Adriam Posted February 5 Author Regular Member Share Posted February 5 1 hour ago, baddecisions said: you look great in your shaved hair, keep it and enjoy life away from surgical procedures bro why )::: i really wanna do it. im just scared it might look worse then better, or kill native hair or bad donor. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valued Contributor Gatsby Posted February 5 Valued Contributor Share Posted February 5 @Adriam are the darkest pics of your hair the results from being on meds and the pics with your donor thinner pre medication? If so I think you would make a good candidate if you have realistic expectations and you can accept an appropriate hairline for the future. GATSBY 'UNPLUGGED!' 15,671 (3 surgeries) Grafts FUE+BHT Dr. Sethi Eugenix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Adriam Posted February 5 Author Regular Member Share Posted February 5 (edited) 1 hour ago, Gatsby said: @Adriam are the darkest pics of your hair the results from being on meds and the pics with your donor thinner pre medication? If so I think you would make a good candidate if you have realistic expectations and you can accept an appropriate hairline for the future. Nope thats just when i grow the hair more, and lightening. Some of the pics shadowing is abit more present, but in general when i grow my hair the sides and back thicken up, not perfectly their are still rows and some gaps, but there are plenty of spots were it gets dense. I hardly ever grow my hair out because i cant bare see myself look like that or go to work like that. i have more photos and videos if youd like to see and comment it would be very helpful. Laorwong said i have good donor which is weird because i dont think so and this also scares me maybe hes just plucking for my money?. He said no problem and wants to book me. Edit: ive been on meds for long time and its pretty much remained unchanged, hairloss is stablized for long time now. 1-2 year plus. Also with that said i wouldnt wanna change my hairline, id just leave it where it is do you think thats a smart move? thank you for your input Edited February 5 by Adriam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valued Contributor Gatsby Posted February 5 Valued Contributor Share Posted February 5 @Adriam if you have had a consult with Dr Laorwong and he is confident then he could be a good choice. We have seen a lot of great results come from Dr Laorwong. GATSBY 'UNPLUGGED!' 15,671 (3 surgeries) Grafts FUE+BHT Dr. Sethi Eugenix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valued Contributor A_4_Archan Posted February 5 Valued Contributor Share Posted February 5 Your donor is looking average so a proper donor management is required if you decide to go for a HT...even if you are on meds there is a possibility that you can loose more ground so plan accordingly...one positive thing is your head size is small so you will require less grafts to cover the bald area. Actually you look great in buzz cut so one more thing you can consider is just fix your hairline without lowering it and distribute rest of the grafts evenly and than do smp to creat an illusion of density and than keep a very short hairstyle..you can hide your scars on donor with smp too. 1 Check Out My Hair Transplant Journey --> My Thread 3611 FUE Grafts With Dr Kongkiat Laorwong | Norwood 5 | 2nd May 2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member GoliGoliGoli Posted February 5 Senior Member Share Posted February 5 24 minutes ago, A_4_Archan said: Your donor is looking average so a proper donor management is required if you decide to go for a HT...even if you are on meds there is a possibility that you can loose more ground so plan accordingly...one positive thing is your head size is small so you will require less grafts to cover the bald area. Actually you look great in buzz cut so one more thing you can consider is just fix your hairline without lowering it and distribute rest of the grafts evenly and than do smp to creat an illusion of density and than keep a very short hairstyle..you can hide your scars on donor with smp too. Disagree. This is a starkly below average donor. @Adriam how old are you? You look to be late 20's early 30's. If your donor looks like this now, you have to anticipate what it will look like in 15 years. It might be the case that you simply don't have a "safe" donor at all. So if you got a HT it's possible that a lot of the transplanted hairs would simply miniaturize over time. I hate to say it, but I think your best option is to not get a HT. It isn't worth the money you will spend now, and the money you will have to spend later chasing further loss. It's one thing to be bald, it's another thing to be unnaturally bald with hair at the front that doesn't look natural. As someone else said, you look great with a shaved head so my advice is to not get a HT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Vann Posted February 5 Senior Member Share Posted February 5 Could you brush your donor hair down and see how it looks long and short? You could potentially get a HT, but if I was in your position, personally, I would not go with any of the doctors you have suggested but to differ from that. I think I would look at patients who are similar to your case and see what steps they took. I would consider a few local surgeons and see what they evaluate you. Then show your potential HT surgeons your case in person and try to get as much feedback as you can in any approach that you take. It would definitely need long term planning and docs with a long history or track record would be your best bet. Realistically, I think you would still need much more then your donor has and to perhaps go with a mature design with a slightly thinning approach. Therefore, I would probably consider only doing fue and staying with the same surgeon for multiple small sessions. Follow my first hair transplant journey 3,252 Grafts a minimum of 6,712 hairs June 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Ajamilo Posted February 6 Senior Member Share Posted February 6 Bro You have a good hairline and really few people look good with the buzz cut as you do. You don’t need a hair transplant and I do think it will do any good thing for you after seeing the donor area Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Adriam Posted February 6 Author Regular Member Share Posted February 6 4 hours ago, GoliGoliGoli said: Disagree. This is a starkly below average donor. @Adriam how old are you? You look to be late 20's early 30's. If your donor looks like this now, you have to anticipate what it will look like in 15 years. It might be the case that you simply don't have a "safe" donor at all. So if you got a HT it's possible that a lot of the transplanted hairs would simply miniaturize over time. I hate to say it, but I think your best option is to not get a HT. It isn't worth the money you will spend now, and the money you will have to spend later chasing further loss. It's one thing to be bald, it's another thing to be unnaturally bald with hair at the front that doesn't look natural. As someone else said, you look great with a shaved head so my advice is to not get a HT. Yeah thats totally fair, what doctor should i go with if i was to consider HT? eugenix perhaps and just do lots of body hair? laorwong wants to do first HT front mid with donor hairs. and the crown mainly beard and some mix of donor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Adriam Posted February 6 Author Regular Member Share Posted February 6 1 hour ago, Ajamilo said: Bro You have a good hairline and really few people look good with the buzz cut as you do. You don’t need a hair transplant and I do think it will do any good thing for you after seeing the donor area you reckon itll look worse after ht? like truthfully im just wanting to know if it will all look worse after a ht, keep in mind laorwong wants to do a beard HT to my crown second time around. i dont mind if it doesnt turn out perfect or that great. but if it improves it and gives me more hair on top even if its a illusion id be happier. i guess the main risk is to see how bad the back of the head gets from ht, thats what im worried about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Adriam Posted February 6 Author Regular Member Share Posted February 6 (edited) 2 hours ago, Vann said: Could you brush your donor hair down and see how it looks long and short? You could potentially get a HT, but if I was in your position, personally, I would not go with any of the doctors you have suggested but to differ from that. I think I would look at patients who are similar to your case and see what steps they took. I would consider a few local surgeons and see what they evaluate you. Then show your potential HT surgeons your case in person and try to get as much feedback as you can in any approach that you take. It would definitely need long term planning and docs with a long history or track record would be your best bet. Realistically, I think you would still need much more then your donor has and to perhaps go with a mature design with a slightly thinning approach. Therefore, I would probably consider only doing fue and staying with the same surgeon for multiple small sessions. yeah totally fair, i got pics and videos of me playing with my hair abit longer well (same lenght as the dark photos) ultimately im fine where the hairline is, i just want my crown and top of head to just have more hair even if its not perfectly dense. If worse comes to worse i just go back to shaving my head but instead have my hair match the top and mid abit more. Really my main concern is if the donor will become very bad after HT. If the donor becomes bad and the top and mid end up growing okay then im okay with that. loarwong wants to use beard grafts on the crown to fill it up. Edited February 6 by Adriam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Adriam Posted February 6 Author Regular Member Share Posted February 6 4 hours ago, GoliGoliGoli said: Disagree. This is a starkly below average donor. @Adriam how old are you? You look to be late 20's early 30's. If your donor looks like this now, you have to anticipate what it will look like in 15 years. It might be the case that you simply don't have a "safe" donor at all. So if you got a HT it's possible that a lot of the transplanted hairs would simply miniaturize over time. I hate to say it, but I think your best option is to not get a HT. It isn't worth the money you will spend now, and the money you will have to spend later chasing further loss. It's one thing to be bald, it's another thing to be unnaturally bald with hair at the front that doesn't look natural. As someone else said, you look great with a shaved head so my advice is to not get a HT. im 29, my hairloss hasnt changed for a long time now. i dont care if in the future it all recedes or gets worse (with me being on meds). thats fine. but if there is a possiblity it can improve my situation abit and not decimate the donor and look abit fuller or filled out thats all i really want. As long as i have the option to going back to fully shaving everything and it looking still fine, if it doesnt go well. the surgeons want to use beard grafts which i have quite afew, for the crown. Which i think is a great idea because personally idc about my beard at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Adriam Posted February 6 Author Regular Member Share Posted February 6 2 hours ago, Ajamilo said: Bro You have a good hairline and really few people look good with the buzz cut as you do. You don’t need a hair transplant and I do think it will do any good thing for you after seeing the donor area thats what im worried how bad the donor area will look? maybe i should go for less grafts?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member TakeAction Posted February 6 Regular Member Share Posted February 6 Grow your donor out more and it won't look nearly as thin. I would just grow everything out for at least 4 months so you can actually see how much coverage your native hair gives you. I think you'd be somewhat surprised with how much you'd get. Feel free to use hair fibers in the meantime if that would help you. Lots of peoples' donors look bad short but turn out to be fine. You can also get a microscope and check for miniaturization in the donor, but I doubt you have a large amount. I have a donor that looks somewhat thin on the sides but under the microscope the hairs are thick and healthy. The sides are also generally thinner than the back for most people. You have at least a few thousand grafts worth of hair on the top your head and if you're stable on meds you should be good to go. You may want to add or switch to dutasteride in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Adriam Posted February 6 Author Regular Member Share Posted February 6 5 hours ago, A_4_Archan said: Your donor is looking average so a proper donor management is required if you decide to go for a HT...even if you are on meds there is a possibility that you can loose more ground so plan accordingly...one positive thing is your head size is small so you will require less grafts to cover the bald area. Actually you look great in buzz cut so one more thing you can consider is just fix your hairline without lowering it and distribute rest of the grafts evenly and than do smp to creat an illusion of density and than keep a very short hairstyle..you can hide your scars on donor with smp too. Im totally okay with losing hair due to age and or genetics in the future despite being on meds. At that point its okay and ive tried everything, i would just resume shaving. this way of thinking is smart and makes sense, but truthfully it doesnt make sense not to use some grafts when i really need them. What the point of waiting or anticipating for the future if right now its absolutely necessary, considering ive done EVERYTHING in my power to fix and maintain what i got. With that said my main concenr about this is that this surgery will do more harm then good, for me i am not expecting perfection and if all goes bad ideally i would like to still be able to buzz my head like i do and just move on with it. My main concern is that native hairs on the top will be nuked, and the donor will become very decimated, otherwise i want to try it truthfully. I am not phased if the donor becomes more thin, as long as it looks homogenous. ive been thinking for so long ive wanted it i know my chances are grim i dont expect perfection, but i would honestly regret not trying this atleast once. With that said i would regret though if it went horribly and my donor got really really bad and i got really scarred and lost more hair on the top of my head. Truthfully as long as it doesnt get worse itll be a success for me. But if you and others think its really bad idea and its just gonna get worse i can totally appreciate that and am thankful for the truthful advice. I wont lie i know its risky. All the surgeons want to put beard grafts on the crown, which i think is sound idea, ive got plenty (even though it doesnt seem that way). Perhaps maybe if i do go ahead with it i request they do less the first round? anyways thanks for advice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Adriam Posted February 6 Author Regular Member Share Posted February 6 7 minutes ago, TakeAction said: Grow your donor out more and it won't look nearly as thin. I would just grow everything out for at least 4 months so you can actually see how much coverage your native hair gives you. I think you'd be somewhat surprised with how much you'd get. Feel free to use hair fibers in the meantime if that would help you. Lots of peoples' donors look bad short but turn out to be fine. You can also get a microscope and check for miniaturization in the donor, but I doubt you have a large amount. I have a donor that looks somewhat thin on the sides but under the microscope the hairs are thick and healthy. The sides are also generally thinner than the back for most people. You have at least a few thousand grafts worth of hair on the top your head and if you're stable on meds you should be good to go. You may want to add or switch to dutasteride in the future. thank you, yeah tbh my donor isnt good. but always shaving it honestly makes it look ALOT Worse. when it grows for afew months it gets alot thicker. its still very risky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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