Calling all experts: Please help me find an FUE Hairline Specialist

[qwop123]

Hello everyone,

I'm looking to get hair transplant done for my hairline and temple points and have some light rework done. I've had two previous fue hair transplant procedures with reputable clinics, both with lackluster results. The first procedure was a total of 1050 grafts and was done to my hairline and temple points. The growth rate was very poor for the hairline and some density/ light rework is necessary for my temples. Due to a very poor experience at that clinic I declined a repair there and opted to go to Turkey. Due to poor miscommunication between the doctors and office staff, they refused to work on my temple points as previously promised and only worked on hairline. This procedure came out to 880 grafts or so which was not enough to get an adequate amount of density. Beyond that, they added a widows peak in typical Turkish clinic fashion, which is something I want removed to help round out the hairline to a more natural shape. In total about 1950 grafts were used so I am hoping for a procedure that doesn't use up too many grafts. I have been quoted anywhere from 600 to 1500 grafts. I'm looking to getting some temple density/light rework done, the "point" of the widows peak removed/rounded out, and some density added to my hairline- specifically the central part of the hairline. I have a budget of around 18K and am willing to wait 2 years for a transplant, I now unfortunately understand through experience how misguided "value propositions" in hair transplants can be so I am really only looking at going to the best clinics and getting this procedure done once and for all. I have talked to multiple clinics and am specifically looking for natural hairline results, reserved hairline design, and good temple work. I have talked to a dozen clinics ranging from Dr. Nader to Fuegenix and have narrowed it down to Dr. Pinto or Dr. Zarev (although Dr. Zarev has not responded to any of my contact attempts, any help on getting in touch with him would be appreciated). Really hoping to brainstorm with this forum on good clinics and thank you for any help. 

[Legend007]

u just complicating things, ur hair looks good enough already. U already experience 2 hairtransplants and it wasn’t easy ., so why would u do more surgery until u really need it .. n u will as u age .. save ur time n money n luv what u got.. 

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[Gatsby]

You got away lucky from two hair transplants that sounded like little research was done. You’re ahead of the game and your hairline looks natural. Chasing perfection is like holding a tiger by the tail. It never ends. Save those grafts for the future ‘if’ you need them. You look great. 👍

[coffeeandpie]

I second what @Legend007 is saying. Your hair looks fine to me for the moment esp. the temples and hairline. A bit of density in the front may be 500-700 FU, but I would hold off for another few years to see how it progresses.

How old are you? Are you actively loosing hair and are you on any medication? where are you based?

[markrahim]

Your hairline looks great,bud...looks ultra natural. Gatsby is on point as always!

[Al - Moderator]

You have really good temple points already. Why touch them and chance messing them up? There isn't any improvement that you can expect there. I can see wanting to thicken up the front, center a bit, but I would only be looking to add a few hundred grafts there. That's all I think you should do if you really feel like you need to improve it. Leave the widows peak alone. If you thicken up the frontal center area a bit then you won't notice the temple peak as much. You don't want to have a perfectly shaped straight (rounded) hair line. That is what will make it look like a hair transplant.

 

 

[Al - Moderator]

8 hours ago, qwop123 said:

The first procedure was a total of 1050 grafts and was done to my hairline and temple points. The growth rate was very poor for the hairline and some density/ light rework is necessary for my temples.

 

I felt like this could use a comment. I'm wondering if it was actually poor growth or was it just that it wasn't transplanted dense enough. You only had 1050 grafts and that included temple point work which looks like it turned out very nicely, so it doesn't sound like very many grafts were put into the hair line on the first transplant.

 

Edited September 30, 2023 by BeHappy

[qwop123]

9 hours ago, BeHappy said:

You have really good temple points already. Why touch them and chance messing them up? There isn't any improvement that you can expect there. I can see wanting to thicken up the front, center a bit, but I would only be looking to add a few hundred grafts there. That's all I think you should do if you really feel like you need to improve it. Leave the widows peak alone. If you thicken up the frontal center area a bit then you won't notice the temple peak as much. You don't want to have a perfectly shaped straight (rounded) hair line. That is what will make it look like a hair transplant.

 

 

 

9 hours ago, BeHappy said:

 

I felt like this could use a comment. I'm wondering if it was actually poor growth or was it just that it wasn't transplanted dense enough. You only had 1050 grafts and that included temple point work which looks like it turned out very nicely, so it doesn't sound like very many grafts were put into the hair line on the first transplant.

 

Yeah i kind of came to the same conclusion, im glad I didn't listen to HLC and get those temples removed and redone, I found them to be pretty ok overall. Its just the camera quality cant pick up the lack of density, and since I'm going to get my hairline done might as well add the necessary 100 or so grafts needed to make them look natural. Im not asking for any forward graft placement, just density to the existing hairline and removing/rounding out the widows peak they added. I'm just looking for clinics that specialize in the hairline and I'm willing to wait 2+ years on a waiting list no problem. I'm on .25 mg finasteride and have no recession to speak of and am planning for low graft usage to conserve for any future need. Although I don't have a pluggy looking transplant, I think it's very clear that I haven't had a successful result either and am really looking for a clinic that can finish the job and do it correctly.

[jjalay]

On 9/30/2023 at 3:42 AM, qwop123 said:

Hello everyone,

I'm looking to get hair transplant done for my hairline and temple points and have some light rework done. I've had two previous fue hair transplant procedures with reputable clinics, both with lackluster results. The first procedure was a total of 1050 grafts and was done to my hairline and temple points. The growth rate was very poor for the hairline and some density/ light rework is necessary for my temples. Due to a very poor experience at that clinic I declined a repair there and opted to go to Turkey. Due to poor miscommunication between the doctors and office staff, they refused to work on my temple points as previously promised and only worked on hairline. This procedure came out to 880 grafts or so which was not enough to get an adequate amount of density. Beyond that, they added a widows peak in typical Turkish clinic fashion, which is something I want removed to help round out the hairline to a more natural shape. In total about 1950 grafts were used so I am hoping for a procedure that doesn't use up too many grafts. I have been quoted anywhere from 600 to 1500 grafts. I'm looking to getting some temple density/light rework done, the "point" of the widows peak removed/rounded out, and some density added to my hairline- specifically the central part of the hairline. I have a budget of around 18K and am willing to wait 2 years for a transplant, I now unfortunately understand through experience how misguided "value propositions" in hair transplants can be so I am really only looking at going to the best clinics and getting this procedure done once and for all. I have talked to multiple clinics and am specifically looking for natural hairline results, reserved hairline design, and good temple work. I have talked to a dozen clinics ranging from Dr. Nader to Fuegenix and have narrowed it down to Dr. Pinto or Dr. Zarev (although Dr. Zarev has not responded to any of my contact attempts, any help on getting in touch with him would be appreciated). Really hoping to brainstorm with this forum on good clinics and thank you for any help. 

Where did you had these two first procedures done? I think couto would be a great option considering for a repair in your case.

[qwop123]

On 10/1/2023 at 1:41 PM, jjalay said:

Where did you had these two first procedures done? I think couto would be a great option considering for a repair in your case.

I had the first procedure at Euegenix with the highest package for 1050 grafts, second procedure with HLC for 833 grafts. I think a mixture of low grafts used and poor growth rate led me to this below avg result; I am thankful though for the natural hairs, no real pluggy look or multi grafts just a weird thinning patter and lack of density. I've talked to Nader but found his results above average at best and inconsistent. Based on some results posted on another forum I also found his temple work to be pretty poor sometimes, I feel like people justify him for the logistics and value. Out of all the latin doctors I think im going to go with either Couto or Pinto, i'm still not sure which is better for my case I have to check which one does better temple points, softer hairlines, scarring results and so on. I even talked to Fuegenix but they were over double my budget while Zarev has a 3 year waitlist just for the mandatory consultation which increased from 150 euro to 500 euros. I would have really liked to go with him but waiting 3 years to travel internationally just for a consult and then wait another 1-2 years for a procedure is just such a tough pill to swallow. If you have any other clinics who you think can give me great results please do comment.  

[jjalay]

18 minutes ago, qwop123 said:

I had the first procedure at Euegenix with the highest package for 1050 grafts, second procedure with HLC for 833 grafts. I think a mixture of low grafts used and poor growth rate led me to this below avg result; I am thankful though for the natural hairs, no real pluggy look or multi grafts just a weird thinning patter and lack of density. I've talked to Nader but found his results above average at best and inconsistent. Based on some results posted on another forum I also found his temple work to be pretty poor sometimes, I feel like people justify him for the logistics and value. Out of all the latin doctors I think im going to go with either Couto or Pinto, i'm still not sure which is better for my case I have to check which one does better temple points, softer hairlines, scarring results and so on. I even talked to Fuegenix but they were over double my budget while Zarev has a 3 year waitlist just for the mandatory consultation which increased from 150 euro to 500 euros. I would have really liked to go with him but waiting 3 years to travel internationally just for a consult and then wait another 1-2 years for a procedure is just such a tough pill to swallow. If you have any other clinics who you think can give me great results please do comment.  

From the clinics you mentioned i think couto can give you the best results with the less amount of grafts so in your place i would stick with him. You can also look at doctor muresanu at Hattingen hair in Switzerland. They are doing such repairs and i think the waiting time is about 8 months. Bisanga in Belgium is another good option too.

[Melvin- Admin]

How far out are you from your last procedure? Your hair looks good. 

[KSA91]

On 9/30/2023 at 8:56 PM, qwop123 said:

 

Yeah i kind of came to the same conclusion, im glad I didn't listen to HLC and get those temples removed and redone, I found them to be pretty ok overall. Its just the camera quality cant pick up the lack of density, and since I'm going to get my hairline done might as well add the necessary 100 or so grafts needed to make them look natural. Im not asking for any forward graft placement, just density to the existing hairline and removing/rounding out the widows peak they added. I'm just looking for clinics that specialize in the hairline and I'm willing to wait 2+ years on a waiting list no problem. I'm on .25 mg finasteride and have no recession to speak of and am planning for low graft usage to conserve for any future need. Although I don't have a pluggy looking transplant, I think it's very clear that I haven't had a successful result either and am really looking for a clinic that can finish the job and do it correctly.

There is no such thing as a "perfect" hair transplant! The goal should be to have good coverage which will provide the "illusion" of density. Whilst also looking natural for the long term as you age! Your own expectations for your hair and how you want it to look will also change as you age btw. From what I've read of what you wrote so far I can tell that even after your third transplant you will not be happy.