Senior Member mr_peanutbutter Posted July 6, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted July 6, 2022 buzzcut meaning not totally shaven but buzzed on a few mm. so you have in opposite smp alone also a 3d effect 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member gillenator Posted July 6, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted July 6, 2022 Yes, I have seen a dozen or so cases of this “short is more” approach but this must be understood that this is a visual achievement meant for those individuals with a low/narrow color contrast…it does not work with wide color contrast cases. 2 Gillenator Independent Patient Advocate I am not a physician and not employed by any doctor/clinic. My opinions are not medical advice, but are my own views which you read at your own risk. Supporting Physicians: Dr. Robert Dorin: The Hairloss Doctors in New York, NY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted July 6, 2022 Administrators Share Posted July 6, 2022 Seems like a decent plan. However, you’ll have to shave. Buzz cut I’m not sure would work as well as shaved. 1 I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member mr_peanutbutter Posted July 6, 2022 Author Senior Member Share Posted July 6, 2022 2 hours ago, gillenator said: Yes, I have seen a dozen or so cases of this “short is more” approach but this must be understood that this is a visual achievement meant for those individuals with a low/narrow color contrast…it does not work with wide color contrast cases. wouldnt the smp lower the contrast? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member mr_peanutbutter Posted July 6, 2022 Author Senior Member Share Posted July 6, 2022 2 hours ago, Melvin- Moderator said: Seems like a decent plan. However, you’ll have to shave. Buzz cut I’m not sure would work as well as shaved. ah i see this seem already too long i wonder what this length is, zero guard? or here, at 5:14 would it be necesserary to shave it wet everyday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted July 6, 2022 Administrators Share Posted July 6, 2022 I shaving with a facial electron razor is good enough. 2 I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member GoliGoliGoli Posted July 6, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted July 6, 2022 Yes looks like no guard for the picture's under the first video like Melvin was saying I believe. For the first video at top, I wonder how long after the SMP that was taken? It still looks fairly red and swollen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member GoliGoliGoli Posted July 6, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted July 6, 2022 Maybe no guard is over stating it as that would basically just shave it clean. Maybe a guard 1 or 0.5 if they even make those? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member mr_peanutbutter Posted July 6, 2022 Author Senior Member Share Posted July 6, 2022 1 hour ago, GoliGoliGoli said: Maybe no guard is over stating it as that would basically just shave it clean. Maybe a guard 1 or 0.5 if they even make those? yes 0.5mm or 1mm should be fine, then you also have a kind of 3d effect and maybe even feel some stubble when you go over it i wonder if - in this case - you dont have to put the grafts that dense , distribute it more even. this could be interesting for higher norwoods. because even in good results the restored hairline starts often starts very high, almost midscalp. maybe with fue + smp + buzzcut you can be more aggressive with the hairline then ? this doesnt seem super dense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Valued Contributor Gatsby Posted July 6, 2022 Valued Contributor Share Posted July 6, 2022 To be honest I’ve seen this performed most when transplants have not given the density required and SMP has later been added as a ‘repair’ if you will in attempting to create visual density. The problem is that visual density between the non balding and the transplanted area will show a contrast. I’ve also seen Dr Bhatti do a video on performing low density FUE and SMP hair transplants for patients who are not candidates for stand alone surgery. I’m not a fan of this approach myself (just my opinion). All the best. 1 GATSBY 'UNPLUGGED!' 15,671 (3 surgeries) Grafts FUE+BHT Dr. Sethi Eugenix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member mr_peanutbutter Posted July 6, 2022 Author Senior Member Share Posted July 6, 2022 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Gatsby said: To be honest I’ve seen this performed most when transplants have not given the density required and SMP has later been added as a ‘repair’ if you will in attempting to create visual density. The problem is that visual density between the non balding and the transplanted area will show a contrast. I’ve also seen Dr Bhatti do a video on performing low density FUE and SMP hair transplants for patients who are not candidates for stand alone surgery. I’m not a fan of this approach myself (just my opinion). All the best. im just wondering if its at least an option for higher norwoods with not a good donor or thin hair diameters like even if we look at absolute killer results like this: which is a 12/10 result and not common at all, but even here the hairline is still quite high. and like i said, not common at all. many norwood 6/7 seem to have the crown bald on top of that too even after ht. personally id rather opt for a smp with some fue added 3d effect in that case then Edited July 6, 2022 by mr_peanutbutter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member BaldReaper Posted July 6, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted July 6, 2022 I dont think SMP works if you dont 0 guard your head with clipers every day or every second day and the reason is that after 2 days there is an obvious contrast between the 2D ink dots and the 3D grown hair. You can find countless examples of that (HT+0 guard shave+ SMP)in famous SMP artists' instagram pages 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member shiba1985 Posted July 7, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted July 7, 2022 14 hours ago, JimKan1 said: I dont think SMP works if you dont 0 guard your head with clipers every day or every second day and the reason is that after 2 days there is an obvious contrast between the 2D ink dots and the 3D grown hair. You can find countless examples of that (HT+0 guard shave+ SMP)in famous SMP artists' instagram pages do those examples look good? I would say only aobut 20% of the photos/ videos posted above look acceptable to me. I am interested in this too, just in case as a back up strategy for the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member BaldReaper Posted July 7, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted July 7, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, shiba1985 said: do those examples look good? I would say only aobut 20% of the photos/ videos posted above look acceptable to me. I am interested in this too, just in case as a back up strategy for the future. Visit Ahead Ink , Elixir SMP and Samuel Troonen they have a lot of examples on their instagram, also famous football player Welsey Sneijder has this done, also famous Israeli singer Eyal Golan. If you ask me the results with shaved head look great, the ones with grown out hair do not Edited July 7, 2022 by JimKan1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member mr_peanutbutter Posted July 7, 2022 Author Senior Member Share Posted July 7, 2022 9 hours ago, JimKan1 said: Visit Ahead Ink , Elixir SMP and Samuel Troonen they have a lot of examples on their instagram, also famous football player Welsey Sneijder has this done, also famous Israeli singer Eyal Golan. If you ask me the results with shaved head look great, the ones with grown out hair do not wow smeijder got fat snejder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member gillenator Posted July 8, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted July 8, 2022 On 7/6/2022 at 11:55 AM, mr_peanutbutter said: wouldnt the smp lower the contrast? Yes but only to a small degree because the real issue is how much light is reflecting off the barren scalp. Gillenator Independent Patient Advocate I am not a physician and not employed by any doctor/clinic. My opinions are not medical advice, but are my own views which you read at your own risk. Supporting Physicians: Dr. Robert Dorin: The Hairloss Doctors in New York, NY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member mr_peanutbutter Posted July 8, 2022 Author Senior Member Share Posted July 8, 2022 i didnt even know sneijder had an ht looks like he got an ht all over the norwood 5 region not bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member BaldReaper Posted July 10, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted July 10, 2022 (edited) On 7/8/2022 at 9:16 PM, mr_peanutbutter said: i didnt even know sneijder had an ht looks like he got an ht all over the norwood 5 region not bad There is a sh*t tone of footballers who got HTs Shaqiri, Karius, Rooney, David Silva, Beckam, Fabregas, Berbatov, Stokes etc. Some of them will have to shave and SMP in the future Edited July 10, 2022 by JimKan1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member mr_peanutbutter Posted December 5, 2022 Author Senior Member Share Posted December 5, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member ciaus Posted December 5, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted December 5, 2022 25 minutes ago, mr_peanutbutter said: That looks pretty good in terms of naturalness, like he's getting close to needing to do something. It would be really tricky to try to turn back the clock much further. And he'd be wise to still do finasteride and minoxidil to hang on to what he's got left for as long as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member mr_peanutbutter Posted December 5, 2022 Author Senior Member Share Posted December 5, 2022 On 7/6/2022 at 9:58 PM, Gatsby said: To be honest I’ve seen this performed most when transplants have not given the density required and SMP has later been added as a ‘repair’ if you will in attempting to create visual density. The problem is that visual density between the non balding and the transplanted area will show a contrast. I’ve also seen Dr Bhatti do a video on performing low density FUE and SMP hair transplants for patients who are not candidates for stand alone surgery. I’m not a fan of this approach myself (just my opinion). All the best. is the video on youtube? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member MisterBreakfast Posted December 5, 2022 Regular Member Share Posted December 5, 2022 (edited) Just gonna give my honest opinion, if you've seen a few examples IN PERSON... SMP looks great for like a couple months ( and especially right after you get it )... butttt it always fades and blurs to some extent. Yes, even the good ones. I wouldn't rely on it as a first or second approach... maybe save it for if something goes wrong, or as a back up. Edited December 5, 2022 by MisterBreakfast 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member mr_peanutbutter Posted May 8 Author Senior Member Share Posted May 8 looks good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member asterix0 Posted May 8 Senior Member Share Posted May 8 (edited) The problem with SMP is that clinics always overdo it. They add way too much to make it look like you have a full head of hair but just choose to buzz/shave. It is too obvious. The way light reflects off of it is a giveaway something is unnatural. Not to mention the color changing over time. The goal of SMP should make it look like you are balding, that is more natural. Having some illusion of density is better than having none at all. Edited May 8 by asterix0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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