Regular Member didu911 Posted May 5, 2022 Regular Member Share Posted May 5, 2022 So my clinic (HLC) allowed me to use DermaRoller after 6 months post op. I really want to give it a try, but I am a bit concerned, that a.) I might harm the graft growth rate b.) Could lead to scarring and make problems for an optional next transplant What is your opinion on that? @Melvin- Moderatorheard about Eugenix wanted to you to stop(or not start) DermaRoller, do you have more information ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member SLA Posted May 5, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted May 5, 2022 Why take a chance with dermarolling? I would NOT as there is no reason to risk anything. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE TRUTH Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 I wouldn't use the dermaroller on the recipient area until around the 1 year mark bro. I am not a big believer in dermarolling. I know some youtubers like Hairliciously and Matt Dominance advertise them but Kevin Mann made an excellent video on this very topic. Check it out. Dermarolling has very limited efficacy. At best it may slightly improve the absportion of topicals. Actually I even remember Dr. Ximena Villa in an interview with Mesiasss4, Dr. Russell Knudsen from the Hairloss Show channel as well as Dr. John Diep mentionning that dermarolling may cause unecessary shedding and even permanent micro-scar tissue and hence is counterproductive because it creates an environnement where it is harder for grafts to survive in case of transplants. Again different doctors have different opinions but seems like most hair transplant surgeons are not huge fans of it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rahal Hair Transplant Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 Didu, Personally, I have very little faith that the derma roller will do anything for not only you but anybody who uses it. I understand the theory but, I’m not really convinced that it will help to thicken thinning hair nor regrow any new hair. That said, I also don’t believe that the derma roller will harm your natural or transplanted hair since you are six months postop. But, if you have any concerns or you think you will lose sleep over whether or not it might cause any harm, I don’t think it’s worth using until you’re at least one year to 18 months which is when your hair transplant is fully mature. In my opinion, it’s always better to err on the side of caution and since your hair transplant is as sure of a thing as you can get to growing new hair, why do anything that you are concerned will jeopardize that even if the risks are minimal. Best wishes, Rahal Hair Transplant Rahal Hair Transplant Institute - Answers to questions, posts or any comments from this account should not be taken or construed as medical advice. All comments are the personal opinions of the poster. Dr. Rahal is a member of the Coalition of Independent of Hair Restoration Physicians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member mmokin Posted May 7, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted May 7, 2022 anything below 1mm should be fine imo for the recipient but i dont think its going to benefit anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member SeanT1 Posted May 7, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted May 7, 2022 I made the mistake of using a 1mm derma pen at one month mark; didn't seem to have any side effects though. But definitely listen to the doctors orders! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member A Fue Good Men Posted May 8, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted May 8, 2022 (edited) Why risk it? Too many unknowns. If wait until all growth has come in personally. also, what are you trying to accomplish by derma rolling your recipient (I assume)? Edited May 8, 2022 by 5BetaReductase Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member didu911 Posted May 8, 2022 Author Regular Member Share Posted May 8, 2022 Thank y’all for your answers. I think I rather don’t use the roller. In the near future. 16 minutes ago, 5BetaReductase said: Why risk it? Too many unknowns. If wait until all growth has come in personally. also, what are you trying to accomplish by derma rolling your recipient (I assume)? Well, I stopped using Fin/Dut due to sides after my first transplant for 2 years, a little of the native hair in the recipient miniaturised. I am back in the game with some pretty strong anti androgens which don’t give me sides like Fin or Dut. I have a feeling that I recovered 90 percent, but want to push it to the limits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member didu911 Posted May 8, 2022 Author Regular Member Share Posted May 8, 2022 On 5/6/2022 at 10:28 PM, What is your agenda here said: I wouldn't use the dermaroller on the recipient area until around the 1 year mark bro. I am not a big believer in dermarolling. I know some youtubers like Hairliciously and Matt Dominance advertise them but Kevin Mann made an excellent video on this very topic. Check it out. Dermarolling has very limited efficacy. At best it may slightly improve the absportion of topicals. Actually I even remember Dr. Ximena Villa in an interview with Mesiasss4, Dr. Russell Knudsen from the Hairloss Show channel as well as Dr. John Diep mentionning that dermarolling may cause unecessary shedding and even permanent micro-scar tissue and hence is counterproductive because it creates an environnement where it is harder for grafts to survive in case of transplants. Again different doctors have different opinions but seems like most hair transplant surgeons are not huge fans of it. Well that’s the thing, the micro scar tissue is something I want to avoid at all costs, If I will get done a last transplant this might cause bad growth. thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member RTC Posted May 8, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted May 8, 2022 On 5/6/2022 at 9:28 PM, lack of bludflow said: I wouldn't use the dermaroller on the recipient area until around the 1 year mark bro. I am not a big believer in dermarolling. I know some youtubers like Hairliciously and Matt Dominance advertise them but Kevin Mann made an excellent video on this very topic. Check it out. Dermarolling has very limited efficacy. At best it may slightly improve the absportion of topicals. Actually I even remember Dr. Ximena Villa in an interview with Mesiasss4, Dr. Russell Knudsen from the Hairloss Show channel as well as Dr. John Diep mentionning that dermarolling may cause unecessary shedding and even permanent micro-scar tissue and hence is counterproductive because it creates an environnement where it is harder for grafts to survive in case of transplants. Again different doctors have different opinions but seems like most hair transplant surgeons are not huge fans of it. So even though there is plenty literature and research on the topic showing benefits, dermarolling is not good for you? Hattingen September 2023 - Punchouts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE TRUTH Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 I am totally fine with people who decide to give it a try. 👍 Plenty of litterature showing benefits ? Haven't seen that much to be honest. Check out the Mann's video. I just think it's overhyped. Actually most reputable hair transplants doctors and trichologists agree it has very little efficacy. Like I said it does increase the absportion of topical minoxidil and anti androgens. But dermarolling on its own doesn't do much and doing too much could be counterproductive and harmful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member RTC Posted May 8, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted May 8, 2022 (edited) Very negative reading.. now I am worried I have caused micro scarring that's going to inhibit growth of my upcoming surgery. I have been doing it once a week maximum with a 1.5mm roller.. Yesterday I went a bit more aggressive and had some slight bleeding spots.. hopefully I haven't messed up anything in advance of my transplant Edited May 8, 2022 by Aslitarcan sucks Hattingen September 2023 - Punchouts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member ciaus Posted May 8, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted May 8, 2022 6 months is more than enough time, especially if you also use minoxidil. The dermarolling helps the minoxidil penetrate better for more effectiveness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE TRUTH Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 2 hours ago, Aslitarcan sucks said: Very negative reading.. now I am worried I have caused micro scarring that's going to inhibit growth of my upcoming surgery. I have been doing it once a week maximum with a 1.5mm roller.. Yesterday I went a bit more aggressive and had some slight bleeding spots.. hopefully I haven't messed up anything in advance of my transplant Nah it's not that bad don't worry how often have you been microneedling ? When is your transplant scheduled ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member RTC Posted May 8, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted May 8, 2022 1 hour ago, lack of bludflow said: Nah it's not that bad don't worry how often have you been microneedling ? When is your transplant scheduled ? Once a week for a couple of months now, never any bleeding apart from yesterday. Surgery scheduled for end of June tbh Hattingen September 2023 - Punchouts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoselitoElGallo Posted June 29, 2022 Share Posted June 29, 2022 After 3 month you can do it. My surgeon recommended me 0.75mm twice a month and after only once a month with a solution of dutasteride and other vitamins. I havent started yet but I will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member RTC Posted June 29, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted June 29, 2022 32 minutes ago, JoselitoElGallo said: After 3 month you can do it. My surgeon recommended me 0.75mm twice a month and after only once a month with a solution of dutasteride and other vitamins. I havent started yet but I will. What strength dutasteride bro Hattingen September 2023 - Punchouts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoselitoElGallo Posted June 29, 2022 Share Posted June 29, 2022 56 minutes ago, Aslitarcan sucks said: What strength dutasteride bro 2 capsules of 0.5 disolved on this lotion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member RTC Posted June 29, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted June 29, 2022 You cut the gel capsule and use the liquid? Hattingen September 2023 - Punchouts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoselitoElGallo Posted June 29, 2022 Share Posted June 29, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Aslitarcan sucks said: You cut the gel capsule and use the liquid? yes, you pour the content in the liquid. Better to use powder capsules but if the capsules are liquid is fine too. And apply it daily, and every 15 days derma rolling for 3 months and then only once a month Edited June 29, 2022 by JoselitoElGallo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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