Senior Member MachoVato Posted June 17, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted June 17, 2022 4 or 4.5 months is VERY early! Most people wait for 4 months to see the beginning of the new hair growth. Your new hair is just beginning to grow. Give it time. Yes, I agree that it looks like shock loss, unfortunately. That can take a couple more months to recover. Minoxidil may help. Maybe even start taking low dose of cialis, which can improve blood flow. Thanks for sharing! 1 HLC Ankara | 4261 Grafts | Nov 7, 2020 (Hairline) Dr. Bisanga, BHR Clinic in Brussels | 1528 Grafts | Aug 12, 2021 (Crown and Temples) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member sabe Posted June 17, 2022 Regular Member Share Posted June 17, 2022 I went there for First month and 3rd month PRP. im planning in going there for PRP sessions twice a year after my 1 year post op. they only Charge $80 for Cortez patients. which is a bery good deal compared to USA $500 per session. PRP i think helped the density for me. its really growing fast. im happy i went there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member emo24 Posted June 18, 2022 Author Regular Member Share Posted June 18, 2022 Yeah I went and got a PRP session at the 3 month mark as I live in southern california so its easy to get across the border to the clinic. Jimmy Cortez did the PRP session and also looked at my donor - I got PRP in the donor and the recipient. He said to hang on about the donor because he saw lots of little hairs growing so I will take his word. It definitely looks better than the previous photos I posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member sabe Posted June 20, 2022 Regular Member Share Posted June 20, 2022 On 6/16/2022 at 6:54 PM, emo24 said: Hey! appreciate the response. I think Guerero harvested mine and Cortez planted as well. I just passed 4 months and my hairline is starting to look good, it is filling in quite nicely. I just passed 4 months yesterday and will most likely give an update at the 5 month mark. Thanks for the reassurance and I'll keep you posted. The hairs are very thin after surgery so hoping this is just transient, as pre op the donor was quite full. I also will say I had a moderate case of folliculitus from month 2 to 3 in the donor area, so its been through some trauma with the surgery and infection. Happy growing On 5/8/2022 at 7:16 PM, emo24 said: So you can find the pre-op, post-op pics above. the attached photos were taken with camera flipped so what you see in the pic as left, is really the right side. Next saturday will be 3 months - I shaved my head down which was a mistake haha. So the biggest thing is the right side of my donor zone is really thin (they took more grafts in this area), just like almost bald which makes me think its shock loss since my donor area pre-op was pretty thick. Also, the left side of my head, is really thin (by my left ear) where they didn't even take any grafts (reference my one day post-op pic) - which would lead me to believe shock loss. I also included a picture in harsher lighting of the right side which really shows the thinness. I got ~2300 grafts. Any thoughts on shock loss vs overharvest would be great. I understand I'll probably just need to give it more time and allow it to grow out but, please share your thoughts. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member emo24 Posted July 14, 2022 Author Regular Member Share Posted July 14, 2022 (edited) 5 month update: donor area is still looking pretty rough. I've been coming to terms that I was overharvested because there hasn't really been any noticeable improvements, just that the hair has grown longer and covered a bit more of the scalp. When my hair is wet, you can see the extent of how thin it still is. Taking a look at the extraction pattern from 1 day post op, really shows how close Dr. Cortez removed follicles in proximity to each other. There really was no homogeneity in the extractions and it is pretty sporadic (see earlier in this thread), and paired with my finer hair, has left me with what looks like a depleted donor. Are there any doctors out there that can move donor grafts around the back of the head to the empty spots (not beard, but actual follicles from the back of the head), to give it a more homogenous look? Appreciate all input and will continue to grow my hair long to see how well it can get covered. Appreciate all the input, thanks! Edited July 18, 2022 by emo24 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE TRUTH Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 Wow....there is still some very small chances that this is shock loss although like you said it's not looking good for 5 months... It could be overharvesting unfortunately... Did you reach out to Cortez ?.... Pinto, Bisanga, Mwamba are good repair doctors. SMP is also an option to consider. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE TRUTH Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 Not the first case of overharvesting by Dr. Cortez....🤦♀️ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member emo24 Posted July 14, 2022 Author Regular Member Share Posted July 14, 2022 (edited) Perhaps there is still shock loss. I had pretty moderate folliculitis infection from about 5 weeks after procedure to ~12 weeks. It lasted a long time, even with oral antibiotics... so I'm not sure if this is playing a role too in the donor area. I can't say it doesn't look better... because at month 2 it was BAD. I saw Dr. Cortez at around 3 months and he just said "oh wow its very thin, your donor density must have not been as good" or something along those lines. Dude, you're the doctor... you're supposed to understand that prior to surgery lol but anyways I will give it the full year before I do anything, I am able to hide it pretty well with toppik in the back and the hairline is coming in well. It's just a pain right now. Edited July 17, 2022 by emo24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sukh123 Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 1 hour ago, Botch me baby said: Not the first case of overharvesting by Dr. Cortez....🤦♀️ I've seen to many on this forum last week, I don't know if its overharvesting or not using good dexterity when extracting. Like i seen a lot of eugenix ones when the pattern looks fine post op but a lot of shock loss has happened, which I think is down to extracting without much care or too quick. Is manual better than motorized at reducing shock loss you think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member RTC Posted July 16, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted July 16, 2022 Damn. At 5 months I think it's safe to say you have been over-harvested sadly. I would definitely look at seeing a repair surgeons above as mentioned by @Legal action and refundalthough you will probably still have to wait. I had the same thing done to me, recently had beard grafts put in, only time will tell if they grow or not@Legal action and refund Hattingen September 2023 - Punchouts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Pephair Posted July 17, 2022 Regular Member Share Posted July 17, 2022 I would highly consider SMP for this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member emo24 Posted July 17, 2022 Author Regular Member Share Posted July 17, 2022 Appreciate everyone's input. I am going to let it grow for the full year before doing anything - hoping it may cover it enough to not bother me as much. I usually wear my hair long anyways. I'll keep you all posted each month. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member A Fue Good Men Posted July 18, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted July 18, 2022 (edited) this may or may not be a result of shock loss, very hard to tell as the area affected looks like there weren’t that many grafts extracted. however, I’m surprised he gave you that response when you saw him at 3 months. Imo there are no good doctors in the Mexico area. I’ve seen far too many sub par results from the Cortez brothers and Luis Nader. Sara salas is highly regarded but her results are not anything special imo. If this is over harvesting, I would seek a fix with an elite repair doc. Imo HMR needs to give you some type of refund to put towards your repair- this looks like a result of their donor mismanagement. Edited July 18, 2022 by 5BetaReductase Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Royce Posted July 18, 2022 Regular Member Share Posted July 18, 2022 5 hours ago, 5BetaReductase said: this may or may not be a result of shock loss, very hard to tell as the area affected looks like there weren’t that many grafts extracted. however, I’m surprised he gave you that response when you saw him at 3 months. Imo there are no good doctors in the Mexico area. I’ve seen far too many sub par results from the Cortez brothers and Luis Nader. Sara salas is highly regarded but her results are not anything special imo. If this is over harvesting, I would seek a fix with an elite repair doc. Imo HMR needs to give you some type of refund to put towards your repair- this looks like a result of their donor mismanagement. Could you elaborate on the sub par results you’ve seen from Nader? I think I’ve decided on him for my HT and this is the only negative thing I’ve come across regarding the quality of his work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member A Fue Good Men Posted July 18, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted July 18, 2022 6 hours ago, Royce said: Could you elaborate on the sub par results you’ve seen from Nader? I think I’ve decided on him for my HT and this is the only negative thing I’ve come across regarding the quality of his work There’s a few results on here through the years with less than optimal growth. One was fairly recent. I don’t remember the user names but do a forum search and sweep through some of them and you’ll find them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member CaliforniaLiving Posted July 18, 2022 Regular Member Share Posted July 18, 2022 tbh still looks like a really bad case of shock loss. I would give it a couple more months before going for a repair. Going from the pics, your loss on that side is way worse than the amount of grafts taken from it. that being said, still not a fan of his extraction pattern, but it shouldn't look this bad IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lr22 Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 Any update to this OP? Curious to know if there have been improvements over the past 5 weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member SctWls Posted August 27, 2022 Regular Member Share Posted August 27, 2022 It looks like a thin and weak donor, I think it is wrong to take so many grafts from this side, was it taken destroying by motorized extraction? This is a novice clinic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valued Contributor Gatsby Posted August 27, 2022 Valued Contributor Share Posted August 27, 2022 I would to be keen to see and hear an update also. GATSBY 'UNPLUGGED!' 15,671 (3 surgeries) Grafts FUE+BHT Dr. Sethi Eugenix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Mood Swings Posted September 2, 2022 Regular Member Share Posted September 2, 2022 Any update on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member GoliGoliGoli Posted September 5, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted September 5, 2022 (edited) On 7/17/2022 at 9:22 PM, 5BetaReductase said: this may or may not be a result of shock loss, very hard to tell as the area affected looks like there weren’t that many grafts extracted. however, I’m surprised he gave you that response when you saw him at 3 months. Imo there are no good doctors in the Mexico area. I’ve seen far too many sub par results from the Cortez brothers and Luis Nader. Sara salas is highly regarded but her results are not anything special imo. If this is over harvesting, I would seek a fix with an elite repair doc. Imo HMR needs to give you some type of refund to put towards your repair- this looks like a result of their donor mismanagement. What sub par results have you seen from Nader? I haven't seen a single one on this forum (Maybe one but I think the guy was just tripping IIRC) Edit: Seen the above response. I've gone through all the results on this forum and I think I've seen 1 person complaining about their Nader results, and I think that person was just anxious in the early stages Edited September 5, 2022 by GoliGoliGoli Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member emo24 Posted September 8, 2022 Author Regular Member Share Posted September 8, 2022 Been busy with life sorry I will give you guys an update at 7 months which is in a week. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member HairEnthusiast101 Posted September 9, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted September 9, 2022 8 hours ago, emo24 said: Been busy with life sorry I will give you guys an update at 7 months which is in a week. Hope all is well emo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member emo24 Posted October 23, 2022 Author Regular Member Share Posted October 23, 2022 Hey all - Here is an update on my donor area, looks a lot better now. Hair has grown out and covers a lot of it, and its a lot thicker. When my hair is wet, you can still see a lot of scalp but, that's OK. No one has ever said anything. Catch you guys at the one year mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member wolfy Posted November 5, 2022 Regular Member Share Posted November 5, 2022 that looks great. I was hoping to see it was just shock-loss and that it would grow in. Hows the front looking? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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