2770 FUT (NW3.5, hairline, temporal points) with Dr Pathomvanich (Dr Path) - DHT Clinic, Bangkok, Thailand (Videos)

[GaryStruthers]

On 3/17/2022 at 1:17 AM, _lshy said:

Hey all, 3 Months and 1.5 Weeks (time moves so slowly)

Finally got a haircut almost 2 weeks after I planned to get one, haha but here is a few photos straight after the barber. 

Gallery Link

 

Side profile look so much better, what the heck

It is fascinating to me that you look like a different person. Amazing thread by the way. Cher bro🤪

[A Fue Good Men]

Dr. Path is def underrated. He’s a great surgeon and actually very helpful. If I was an Aussie and wanted to stay near home he would be at the top of my list.

[Hristo13]

Looks amazing @_lshy … the hairline frames your face perfectly 

[Z--]

You looked great pre-transplant, but damn looking even more amazing with the new hairline. Many congrats!!

[maffewq]

Hi Ishy, 

Wondering if you looked into GRO clinics in Australia in your initial research of getting a HT. Any opinions?

[Hairy Henderson]

On 4/15/2022 at 11:28 AM, Hairdom said:

The temporal peaks made the biggest change of your appearance, so youthful in comparison to before photos

I so agree with this.  They are such a game changer in framing the face.

[Melvin- Admin]

How’s it looking now?

[jollyfolly]

Excellent thread, i really enjoyed reading and it brought back all the wonderful memories from over 10 years ago from my HT with Dr. Path.

I am still not 100% sure if i want a second HT but will be organising a visit with a close mate who wants some work done so i am looking forward to seeing Dr Path and his staff soon.

Well done on an excellent HT.

Edited June 21, 2022 by jollyfolly

[_lshy]

Hey all, will provide an update shortly

On 6/17/2022 at 9:23 PM, maffewq said:

Wondering if you looked into GRO clinics in Australia in your initial research of getting a HT. Any opinions?

Before committing to travelling abroad for the hair transplant I spent a lot of time researching local clinics. I had consultations with Gro, Clown Crown Clinic, Knudsen and Dr Chan.

Crown Clinic was a complete joke, don't even bother. The nurses perform the surgical extractions. This is legal in Australia, that beauticians with a 2 year diploma can conduct surgical procedures. 

Knudsen has alright results on his website, not the best quality photos and ultimately didn't give me enough information to feel confident in the results. He quoted me 1500 grafts which might have been alright, Dr Path thought 2500 grafts would be better for the area covered (he uses a standard measurement based on area). Knudsen has a reputation for being more conservative with grafts. I can't comment on if I would have been just as happy with the results from Knudsen, his service also would have cost more.

Dr Chan has some decent results on his website but there aren't a lot of his cases out there and some bad reviews on RealMe. He also only offers FUE.

Gro put in more effort but they were not experts and yet were charging expert rates.

They have a fairly active Instagram presence which I appreciate but when I consulted with them I wasn't able to speak to the surgeon (unlike other, more professional, clinics). Instead I spoke to a salesperson/representative who told me they performed all kinds of cosmetic procedures, including hair transplants.

They fixated on the "DHI method" sales pitch, which is completely irrelevant as the graft insertion technique is only one part of the surgery also quoting me in "hairs transplanted" rather than grafts - which is a red flag.

Further, surgical teams who can use tweezers to insert grafts are higher skilled and DHI pens tend to be a crutch for surgical teams with less experience. The idea is that it's a DHI pen has a cartridge that holds a graft. The pen is used to both create the insertion site and also deposit the graft.

For contrast, Dr Path's process involved two passes. First pass he went over my head creating graft insertion sites (holes) with a pen. Second pass the technicians filled the holes with grafts via tweezers. Directionality is guaranteed in the first pass.

Summary

Overall I just felt there wasn't the visibly demonstrable skills within Australia to give me the confidence to commit to a life changing surgery.

At the end of the day nobody has your back on this procedure. There are no warranties, there are no government regulations to protect you, the responsibility is on you to ensure that you are informed well enough to not come away looking terrible. I felt there just wasn't enough info, cases, videos, reports, reviews on Australian practices.

I got to a point where I convinced myself there was enough info and gave into booking with Knudsen (later cancelling the procedure). Knudsen refunded the booking despite not having any legal obligation to do so - which I respected immensely.

Just a quick search in other regions, USA, Europe, Asia and the top clinics have hundreds of cases with videos, photos, etc. Australian surgeons just don't post anywhere near the content we see overseas clinics post and it's a damn shame. 

Edited June 29, 2022 by _lshy

[eyeballs11]

Any updates here?

[_lshy]

Hey all 7 months & 1 week

I am currently in Bangkok, working remotely (I'm in software). Dropped by Dr Path's office for a follow up and they took some photos.

Scar

They measured the scar and it was 4mm - which I believe is actually not great and on the larger size. I don't know what is normal here but that seems a bit large.

Hasson & Wong and Feller & Bloxham cite their benchmark at a 1mm scar but I have seen that even they have some wider outcomes (saw 15mm by F&B on here). I think younger people are more likely to have wider scars due to having more flexible scalps.

I'm a bit disappointed not to have a scar that would give me more flexibility to wear my hair shorter but in the end, I look so much better after the surgery - even if the scar is wider than I'd hoped.

If it's super noticeable I might consider SMP or maybe a follow up surgery to fill in my crown a bit and fix up the scar.

Results

Other than a larger than desirable scar, the results are incredible so far. I still have 5 months until I hit the 12 month mark. I don't know for sure, but I assume things slow down in terms of gains from here - so I shouldn't expect much more.

Here you can see a before/after

And the full gallery

Edited July 15, 2022 by _lshy

[Melvin- Admin]

Mate, 

I remember when you were researching and had decided on a place until you came here. I'm glad that you made the right choice. You look amazing. As for the scar, yes it's not ideal. But some FUE into the scar would improve it alot.

[THE TRUTH]

Very solid result bro. 

Path does good work. 

I think Knudsen & Vikram's "Hairloss Show" channel is one of the best sources of information about hairloss on Youtube along with Haircafé and MPMD. 

However the thing that I find really strange about Dr.Knudsen it that he has only very few results available after 30 years of practicing hair restoration....😅

[Hairdom]

If I decide to pull the trigger, it is your fault. No seriously I am so amazed. I am 24 years old and I feel like this hairloss is stealing my identity and this is one of those stories that motivates me to fight the smart battle. I have to say that in my eyes this is such a beautiful transformation. I enjoy watching your updates because I fantasize about doing HT with Dr pathomvanich in the future with similiar result , thank you so much for sharing! 

btw the scar seems invisible, you can go lower on the guard with your dark hair without noticing it. SMP is the option in your case imo 

 

[Etownone]

Amazing work.    Congrats. 

I had my strip scar filled with beard grafts.    And the scar is now completely gone.    

 

[RTC]

1 minute ago, Etownone said:

Amazing work.    Congrats. 

I had my strip scar filled with beard grafts.    And the scar is now completely gone.    

 

great stuff!

[_lshy]

2 hours ago, Melvin- Moderator said:

Mate, 

I remember when you were researching and had decided on a place until you came here. I'm glad that you made the right choice. You look amazing. As for the scar, yes it's not ideal. But some FUE into the scar would improve it alot.

Haha man, what a ride that was. I am glad I didn't proceed with Dr Knudsen though to his credit, he did refund me the $2k deposit I paid despite having no legal obligation to do so.

As for FUE into the scar, considering that too. Feels like it's best done as a final touch once you know you're not going to have any more surgeries.

@Etownone pretty cool use for beard hair. My neck beard hairs do nothing but get razor burn, would be nice if they could pay me back for all the years of strife 🤣

@Hairdom good luck on your journey my dude, glad to hear my experience has made treating MPB more accessible to you. You probably know to get on finasteride or dutasteride asap so you lock in what you've got. Also, don't forget to share your experience with the forum!

[Etownone]

I good beard surgeon like Dr Mwamba, could do a small surgery and extract 300-500 beard grafts from lower beard area and put it right in that scar and make it disappear.  

The beard donor area will then heal up after a week, and it will look like it was never touched. 

Either way.....  Your HT is a homerun. 

I lived the strip scar for almost 10 years before I had it filled in.   

 

[John1991]

Very good result.  Good density and great design.  Happy for you.

[ichigo]

Australian here also. I had a consultation with Dr Path back in 2016, but just didn't have the funds to do it. Few years later when I did have the funds, covid happened lol. I haven't been on this forum for a while, but a hair transplant has always been at the back of my mind and I was probably going to go to Turkey to get one done.

What inspired me to visit this site again is that I was on a flight from Bangkok to Perth yesterday and I saw a guy with a fresh transplant - it was the first time seeing one live, and not in a photo. I really wanted to go and talk to him about it, which surgeon he used etc but I thought that may have been a bit rude.

Anyhow, so now I'm researching again and saw your amazing results and now I'm just thinking maybe I should just get the surgery done in Thailand since it's nearby and also because I go to Thailand regularly (well, pre-pandemic). Definitely some food for thought! Just one question, how did you pay for it? Did you just carry a huge stack of Australian cash over?

[_lshy]

I put the pricing up earlier in the thread but I think it was between 8 and 10k including flights

[AndyDouglas]

On 7/18/2022 at 5:29 PM, _lshy said:

I put the pricing up earlier in the thread but I think it was between 8 and 10k including flights

Congratulations Ishy on your amazing result! Fellow Sydneysider here.

I actually remember you from the Hair Loss Talk Forum asking for advice about hair systems. I replied and tried to give you some tips.

I ended up going the hair transplant pathway this year - and even though I'm only at 4 months now, there is no looking back. Definitely beats the maintenance of a hair system so far.

Now just waiting for my results to kick in - if I can have results half as good as yours, I'll be over the moon!

[Hairy Henderson]

On 4/15/2022 at 11:28 AM, Hairdom said:

The temporal peaks made the biggest change of your appearance, so youthful in comparison to before photos

100%

[Hairy Henderson]

Huge results for only 2770 grafts!

[Doood25]

On 4/4/2022 at 6:41 PM, anotherbaldguy said:

Had exactly the same experiences with my consults. 

Dr Path might be one of the most underrated docs on these forums as far as i can tell. He created this technique for FUT called the 'open technique' where you get almost none (if any) transection and due to the limited amount of tissue damage this minimises any scarring as well. It's the same technique Dr Wong uses, but it takes about an extra 45 mins of work and requires more training so most FUT docs aren't willing to do it.

If anything I found Dr Path's donor estimate a little too conservative but I think that's just his style. Really helpful.

Awesome to hear! 

How does path do w fue any good?