Regular Member spazy Posted May 23, 2020 Regular Member Share Posted May 23, 2020 (edited) First of all I'm not sure if this is the right forum to post this, but this seemed to be the most appropriate one. I am a 27 year old male and I have diffused thinning all over and recession on the temples. The thinning isn't so bad when my hair is grown out but the temples (moreso the left temple) are bare. I believe that I have stabilized the loss over the past year with topical min/fin. I am now interested in getting a transplant to fill in the temples / strengthen the hairline. How many grafts do you think would be required to fill in the hairline? Also, do you think any grafts would be required in the crown area? Thank you for your time. Spazy Edited May 23, 2020 by spazy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member CosmoKramer Posted May 23, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted May 23, 2020 (edited) Hey man IMHO, I don’t think it looks too bad, my hair loss started similarly to yours at your age, so I wouldn’t stick to believing that’s is totally stabilized as mine hadn’t. My advice would be give it another year or 2 to see if it worsens and in the mean time stick to your topical and add Nizoral shampoo 1-2x a week + microneedling with a roller or Derma pen for at least an additional 6 months to see if it improves your situation. But to answer your question, I looks like you’d need 1,000-1,200 grafts to shore up your receding temples. Edited May 23, 2020 by CosmoKramer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member 1978matt Posted May 23, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted May 23, 2020 The crown doesnt look bad enough yet to make a real difference. Up front maybe 1500, possibly up to 2000. 4,312 FUT grafts (7,676 hairs) with Ray Konior, MD - August 2013 1,145 FUE grafts (3,152 hairs) with Ray Konior, MD - August 2018 763 FUE grafts (2,094 hairs) with Ray Konior, MD - January 2020 Proscar 1.25mg every 3rd day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member spazy Posted May 23, 2020 Author Regular Member Share Posted May 23, 2020 (edited) 43 minutes ago, CosmoKramer said: Hey man IMHO, I don’t think it looks too bad, my hair loss started similarly to yours at your age, so I wouldn’t stick to believing that’s is totally stabilized as mine hadn’t. My advice would be give it another year or 2 to see if it worsens and in the mean time stick to your topical and add Nizoral shampoo 1-2x a week + microneedling with a roller or Derma pen for at least an additional 6 months to see if it improves your situation. But to answer your question, I looks like you’d need 1,000-1,200 grafts to shore up your receding temples. Thanks for the reply, my hair loss actually started at 19 and it's been steadily progressing. I tried finasteride for a few weeks when I was 23 but had sides and stopped. Finally the thinning got so noticeable that I tried a topical format and didn't have sides. I've taken comparison photos which I've attached, they're from 12 months ago, which is when I started treatment with topical min/fin. I don't know if there's been improvements in the last year but it doesn't appear to have gotten worse. Anywho thank you guys for the estimates on my grafts needed. I am really in no rush to get a transplant so I will probably give it another year of treatment to see where I stand. Thank you again. Edited May 23, 2020 by spazy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member CosmoKramer Posted May 23, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted May 23, 2020 28 minutes ago, spazy said: Thanks for the reply, my hair loss actually started at 19 and it's been steadily progressing. I tried finasteride for a few weeks when I was 23 but had sides and stopped. Finally the thinning got so noticeable that I tried a topical format and didn't have sides. I've taken comparison photos which I've attached, they're from 12 months ago, which is when I started treatment with topical min/fin. I don't know if there's been improvements in the last year but it doesn't appear to have gotten worse. Anywho thank you guys for the estimates on my grafts needed. I am really in no rush to get a transplant so I will probably give it another year of treatment to see where I stand. Thank you again. You’re welcome! I do see a slight improvement in your 1st post from these photos so stick to it, even if you don’t gain much back you’ll retain what you have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member yesplease Posted May 27, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted May 27, 2020 On 5/23/2020 at 12:28 PM, spazy said: Thanks for the reply, my hair loss actually started at 19 and it's been steadily progressing. I tried finasteride for a few weeks when I was 23 but had sides and stopped. Finally the thinning got so noticeable that I tried a topical format and didn't have sides. I've taken comparison photos which I've attached, they're from 12 months ago, which is when I started treatment with topical min/fin. I don't know if there's been improvements in the last year but it doesn't appear to have gotten worse. Anywho thank you guys for the estimates on my grafts needed. I am really in no rush to get a transplant so I will probably give it another year of treatment to see where I stand. Thank you again. What type of topical fin do you use, and where do you obtain it? Based upon these limited photos, it does appear to be helping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted May 27, 2020 Administrators Share Posted May 27, 2020 Personally, I think you should hold off and surgery and give the meds more time. You definitely have a lot of hair, which means higher risk of shock loss. I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member spazy Posted June 22, 2020 Author Regular Member Share Posted June 22, 2020 On 5/27/2020 at 2:22 AM, yesplease said: What type of topical fin do you use, and where do you obtain it? Based upon these limited photos, it does appear to be helping. Sorry for late response, I haven't been on the site in a while. I use Morr-F and I get it from Ebay. Make sure the seller is reputable before purchasing from them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member spazy Posted June 22, 2020 Author Regular Member Share Posted June 22, 2020 On 5/27/2020 at 11:57 AM, Melvin-Moderator said: Personally, I think you should hold off and surgery and give the meds more time. You definitely have a lot of hair, which means higher risk of shock loss. Thanks, I am going to give it another year and reevaluate then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member jmghair Posted June 25, 2020 Regular Member Share Posted June 25, 2020 2,000 at least to match density and fill in the temple angles. But it will come at a cost like the others said, so there is supply and demand to worry about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member UnbaldEagle Posted January 12, 2021 Senior Member Share Posted January 12, 2021 Bumping this thread, just curious if you've given surgery some more thought or already underwent one or had some great results from treatment alone. 😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member spazy Posted January 13, 2021 Author Regular Member Share Posted January 13, 2021 (edited) 9 hours ago, UnbaldEagle said: Bumping this thread, just curious if you've given surgery some more thought or already underwent one or had some great results from treatment alone. 😁 Hey, so basically what's happened since I made this thread is I had a massive shed (100+ hairs in the shower/blowdrying every morning) that lasted 4-5 months, and it got to the point where I was doubting the legitimacy of the product I was using (Morr-F from ebay). I decided to switch to oral fin prescribed by a doctor, and my shedding seems to have come to a complete halt. I now only shed around 5-30 hairs in the morning. I'm not sure if this was just a cyclical shed or what. I am still using a bit of Morr-F at night in combination with the oral fin. At the moment my hair seems to be in the same state that it was 2 years ago, and so I'm pretty confident that I will be able to maintain with fin for the foreseeable future. Anyway, my current plan is to go to Mexico this summer for an FUE procedure with the Dr. Cortez brothers at Hair Medical Restoration. They quoted me 1600 grafts to fix up the frontal portion @ $3 CAD per graft all in. I don't really trust the budget clinics here in Canada and the quality ones are way out of my price range. I also don't want to travel all the way to Turkey, and so Mexico is a nice compromise for quality and convenience. Edited January 13, 2021 by spazy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Dillpickle123 Posted January 22, 2021 Senior Member Share Posted January 22, 2021 On 1/12/2021 at 5:14 PM, spazy said: Hey, so basically what's happened since I made this thread is I had a massive shed (100+ hairs in the shower/blowdrying every morning) that lasted 4-5 months, and it got to the point where I was doubting the legitimacy of the product I was using (Morr-F from ebay). I decided to switch to oral fin prescribed by a doctor, and my shedding seems to have come to a complete halt. I now only shed around 5-30 hairs in the morning. I'm not sure if this was just a cyclical shed or what. I am still using a bit of Morr-F at night in combination with the oral fin. At the moment my hair seems to be in the same state that it was 2 years ago, and so I'm pretty confident that I will be able to maintain with fin for the foreseeable future. Anyway, my current plan is to go to Mexico this summer for an FUE procedure with the Dr. Cortez brothers at Hair Medical Restoration. They quoted me 1600 grafts to fix up the frontal portion @ $3 CAD per graft all in. I don't really trust the budget clinics here in Canada and the quality ones are way out of my price range. I also don't want to travel all the way to Turkey, and so Mexico is a nice compromise for quality and convenience. If they can fix yours with 1600 grafts then that’s great I posted my thread and ppl here were saying 1800 grafts and my temples are slightly less bad I’ve seen hmr patients on YT get excellent results so I expect you’ll get a great result aswell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n58 Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 On 1/12/2021 at 8:14 PM, spazy said: Hey, so basically what's happened since I made this thread is I had a massive shed (100+ hairs in the shower/blowdrying every morning) that lasted 4-5 months, and it got to the point where I was doubting the legitimacy of the product I was using (Morr-F from ebay). I decided to switch to oral fin prescribed by a doctor, and my shedding seems to have come to a complete halt. I now only shed around 5-30 hairs in the morning. I'm not sure if this was just a cyclical shed or what. I am still using a bit of Morr-F at night in combination with the oral fin. At the moment my hair seems to be in the same state that it was 2 years ago, and so I'm pretty confident that I will be able to maintain with fin for the foreseeable future. Anyway, my current plan is to go to Mexico this summer for an FUE procedure with the Dr. Cortez brothers at Hair Medical Restoration. They quoted me 1600 grafts to fix up the frontal portion @ $3 CAD per graft all in. I don't really trust the budget clinics here in Canada and the quality ones are way out of my price range. I also don't want to travel all the way to Turkey, and so Mexico is a nice compromise for quality and convenience. @spazyI am in Canada as well and like you don't trust the budget clinics. How did you find about Dr.Cortez brothers and how is their experience? I will search online but wanted to get first hand info about them as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member spazy Posted January 22, 2021 Author Regular Member Share Posted January 22, 2021 13 hours ago, n58 said: @spazyI am in Canada as well and like you don't trust the budget clinics. How did you find about Dr.Cortez brothers and how is their experience? I will search online but wanted to get first hand info about them as well. There are lots of personal experiences shared on youtube, that's basically how I found out. Just search up Hair medical restoration or Dr cortez hair transplant, and you'll find them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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