Regular Member bodrul Posted March 19, 2020 Regular Member Share Posted March 19, 2020 Hi I'm 29 year old Male, who has started to notice hair loss around 23 years old. Please see attached photos for my situation. I'm looking to get FUE procedure done only on scalp, I could consider BHT also. Thanks in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member bodrul Posted March 19, 2020 Author Regular Member Share Posted March 19, 2020 I have approached some clinics including, Dr Keser where I was quoted 2000-2500 grafts, 4 days surgery. His staff has mentioned he does use magnifying glasses, I'm not sure if it's a miss translation, where he could mean microscope. As I asked if he uses microscope, he replied yes he uses magnifying glasses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted March 19, 2020 Administrators Share Posted March 19, 2020 Magnifying glasses are not the same as microscopes. Are you on meds? You have a lot of miniaturization. Are you planning on restoring the hairline, lower the hairline? Where do you live? I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Gasthoerer Posted March 19, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted March 19, 2020 (edited) This microscope thing is overblown. All good clinics have the surgeon (and his team working on your head) using magnifying glasses. Most good clinics have their techs inspecting the grafts under microscopes to detect sleeping multis. But some of the very best don't and still achieve great results. Of course all former FUT clinics use microscoped as they required them to trim the grafts after the strip. Anyway: This is not a Keser case for me: too large! 4 days surgery is not a great idea to me. BY the way: Donor looks thin too. You have to check this in a personal consultation first. Edited March 19, 2020 by Gasthoerer 400+ grafts in 2018 and 2900 grafts in 2020 via FUE with Feriduni Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted March 19, 2020 Administrators Share Posted March 19, 2020 In my opinion, you’re better suited for a large strip and then FUE after. Someone like hasson and wong would knock this out of the park. I like Hattingen Dr. Muresanu as well, he’s also ethical. I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member bodrul Posted March 19, 2020 Author Regular Member Share Posted March 19, 2020 10 minutes ago, Gasthoerer said: This microscope thing is overblown. All good clinics have the surgeon (and his team working on your head) using magnifying glasses. Most good clinics have their techs inspecting the grafts under microscopes to detect sleeping multis. But some of the very best don't and still achieve great results. Of course all former FUT clinics use microscoped as they required them to trim the grafts after the strip. Anyway: This is not a Keser case for me: too large! 4 days surgery is not a great idea to me. BY the way: Donor looks thin too. You have to check this in a personal consultation first. Thanks, I'm only on anti depressants Meds sertraline 200mg/day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member bodrul Posted March 19, 2020 Author Regular Member Share Posted March 19, 2020 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Melvin-Moderator said: Magnifying glasses are not the same as microscopes. Are you on meds? You have a lot of miniaturization. Are you planning on restoring the hairline, lower the hairline? Where do you live? Hi thanks for your reply, yes I'm only taking 200mg anti depressants. I'm looking to restore hairline. I'm from the UK. I'm I right to think what you said about Dr Wong won't accept this or he'll do a great job? Sorry I'm new to this what do you mean by doing a large strip? Thanks again. Edited March 19, 2020 by bodrul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted March 19, 2020 Administrators Share Posted March 19, 2020 17 minutes ago, bodrul said: Hi thanks for your reply, yes I'm only taking 200mg anti depressants. I'm looking to restore hairline. I'm from the UK. I'm I right to think what you said about Dr Wong won't accept this or he'll do a great job? Sorry I'm new to this what do you mean by doing a large strip? Thanks again. I meant if you are meds for hair loss like Finasteride or minoxidil? When I say strip I mean FUT. Going FUT first would be the best option and would help maximize your donor supply. Why would Dr. Wong not accept your case? I never said that. I think that they would be perfect. If you are absolutely dead set on FUE, you need someone with experience on doing mega-sessions 4 day surgery is a definite NO NO, someone like Eugenix Dr. Arika Bansal and Dr. Pradeep Sethi, check out their results on the forum. Also, take a look at Dr. Bisanga, and Dr. Reddy, he is one of the very best in the UK. I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member bodrul Posted March 19, 2020 Author Regular Member Share Posted March 19, 2020 Thanks, my only concerns with FUT is the marks left for rest of life. And I haven't looked at surgeons in the UK yet as I thought they will cost more for the same procedure/quality in different country. But after your suggestion will take a look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted March 19, 2020 Administrators Share Posted March 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, bodrul said: Thanks, my only concerns with FUT is the marks left for rest of life. And I haven't looked at surgeons in the UK yet as I thought they will cost more for the same procedure/quality in different country. But after your suggestion will take a look. Given this climate, and the fact that travel is out of the question, why wouldn't you look at some local surgeons? FUE is not scarless, you can easily hide an FUT scar with the length of your hair. Overall, it's cheaper and more efficient, and you get the most out of your donor supply. I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abi28 Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 3 minutes ago, bodrul said: Thanks, my only concerns with FUT is the marks left for rest of life. And I haven't looked at surgeons in the UK yet as I thought they will cost more for the same procedure/quality in different country. But after your suggestion will take a look. You can achieve great results with FUE, don't go to the UK and get butchered, if you are considering Keser go for it he is the best doctor in Turkey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member bodrul Posted March 19, 2020 Author Regular Member Share Posted March 19, 2020 4 minutes ago, Melvin-Moderator said: Given this climate, and the fact that travel is out of the question, why wouldn't you look at some local surgeons? FUE is not scarless, you can easily hide an FUT scar with the length of your hair. Overall, it's cheaper and more efficient, and you get the most out of your donor supply. I'm willing to wait for the travel to open even if it's a year. I could save up a bit more, would you say that the doctors in the UK results are as good as hasson and wong ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member bodrul Posted March 19, 2020 Author Regular Member Share Posted March 19, 2020 Btw I've sent my request to Dr Ferreira, let's see what he says tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Suede Posted March 19, 2020 Regular Member Share Posted March 19, 2020 Hi, I agree on that out of attached pictures this seems to be a planned well to get a good outcome. You should also look in to similar cases to get an understanding of what can be achieved. Also note that every case is individual and the results will always be differents due to donor/genetics/HT-surgeon and more. Can you get some better pictures of your donor in the back? I agree on that the sides look a little thin. You do not want to harvest to much on your sides because that will be even more noticeable than beeing a little thin on the top. Remember people see you more from the sides than from above. Key is to research and find what is best suited for you. Maybe first FUT and then FUE is best for your case and your expectations, Just as Melvin mentioned. cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abi28 Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 6 minutes ago, bodrul said: I'm willing to wait for the travel to open even if it's a year. I could save up a bit more, would you say that the doctors in the UK results are as good as hasson and wong ? Not close I would not consider anyone on the UK, H&W are elite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Suede Posted March 19, 2020 Regular Member Share Posted March 19, 2020 6 minutes ago, bodrul said: I'm willing to wait for the travel to open even if it's a year. I could save up a bit more, would you say that the doctors in the UK results are as good as hasson and wong ? For FUT, yes Hasson & Wong have been showing more succesful cases over the years than any clinic in UK. That is a fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member bodrul Posted March 20, 2020 Author Regular Member Share Posted March 20, 2020 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Suede said: For FUT, yes Hasson & Wong have been showing more succesful cases over the years than any clinic in UK. That is a fact. How about FUE or both? Edited March 20, 2020 by bodrul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member bodrul Posted March 20, 2020 Author Regular Member Share Posted March 20, 2020 This is night photo, right under different room lighting. My earlier pictures were the worst, as I just woke up either are under strong light or facing window with sunshine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member bodrul Posted March 20, 2020 Author Regular Member Share Posted March 20, 2020 (edited) Just put in a request in Hasson and Wrong, blimey they are super expensive. Let's see how many grafts they say. If I can't go ahead with them I'll the next best depending on the price. But I want to thank all of you for the suggestions, as I didn't find any of these doctors mentioned above, during my search. At first looking at the reviews of Vera Clinics, I booked a flight, Visa and transport. But couldn't find my passport on the last day. Dodged a bullet. Edited March 20, 2020 by bodrul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted March 20, 2020 Administrators Share Posted March 20, 2020 1 hour ago, bodrul said: I'm willing to wait for the travel to open even if it's a year. I could save up a bit more, would you say that the doctors in the UK results are as good as hasson and wong ? Don't listen to anonymous posters who constantly promote Turkish clinics, they definitely don't have your best interest in mind. Here is a fact, FUT+FUE will always optimize your donor supply. Can you get great results with FUE alone, yes, but you will require more surgeries, and you definitely need someone better than Keser if that were the case, he pretty much chooses his patients based on their level of hair loss. Your best bet is to have a large strip mega-session, and then finish off with FUE. Trust me -this is coming from someone who had a lot of hair loss and only went the FUE route. You don't wear your hair short, so there is literally no reason why you should go FUE first, it isn't a better procedure, and in fact the growth rate is slightly better with FUT. That said, Dr. Reddy is legit, check out @Deanomag thread on here. You can also check out this guy "life of steve" on YouTube, he had fantastic results. 1 I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abi28 Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 Keser is known to use less grafts and acheive great results, look at the post below, he doesnt promote himself but he is the most expensive doctor in Turkey for a reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member bodrul Posted March 20, 2020 Author Regular Member Share Posted March 20, 2020 5 minutes ago, Abi28 said: Keser is known to use less grafts and acheive great results, look at the post below, he doesnt promote himself but he is the most expensive doctor in Turkey for a reason. Thanks, I've seen this post. That's why I was considering him at first. Let's see what Hasson and Wong and Ferreira say. I'll keep you guys updated. I tried applying to Hattingen Dr. Muresanu but the website says my picture files are too big. So I'll skip that for now. I'm considering the doctor mentioned in India by Melvin too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LonelyGraft Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 9 hours ago, Gasthoerer said: This microscope thing is overblown. All good clinics have the surgeon (and his team working on your head) using magnifying glasses. Most good clinics have their techs inspecting the grafts under microscopes to detect sleeping multis. But some of the very best don't and still achieve great results. Of course all former FUT clinics use microscoped as they required them to trim the grafts after the strip. Anyway: This is not a Keser case for me: too large! 4 days surgery is not a great idea to me. BY the way: Donor looks thin too. You have to check this in a personal consultation first. I agree, I think the whole microscope thing is overblown. A few doubles in the hairline and nobody will notice imo. in terms of the OP, I agree with Melvin. You have miniaturized hairs all through the top and I wouldn’t even consider surgery without trying to stabilize your loss with medications. You risk the chance of shock loss. i also don’t think your case is best suited for keser unless you want to do staggered surgeries. He’s more well known for a slow, stick and place, minor loss doctor. i would go with a clinic that can give you: naturalness, coverage, density, good donor management (in that order). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LonelyGraft Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 Also, I highly recommend you have a doctor check your donor for any possibility of miniaturization since it looks like you have diffuse loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Rolandas Posted March 21, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted March 21, 2020 (edited) On 3/20/2020 at 12:03 AM, bodrul said: This is night photo, right under different room lighting. My earlier pictures were the worst, as I just woke up either are under strong light or facing window with sunshine You're hair loss looks very similar to mine (you have more hair, but hair loss pattern is extremely alike), and since you mentioned Dr. Ferreira I would strongly advise to check out my progress so far (in my signature), so you know how it would look if you would go this route. As Melvin said FUT + FUE is extremely good route if you don't mind linear scar and whatever comes along with it. There's certainly + & -. Don't rush and do your research! Edited March 21, 2020 by Rolandas 1st FUE - 28/01/2020 - 3659 grafts - Dr. Bruno Ferreira 2nd FUE - 03/06/2021 - 2881 grafts - Dr. Bruno Ferreira Follow me on YouTube I'm not a medical professional, thus any information given by me is my own observation and should not be treated as professional advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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