Dr Jean Devroye or Dr Dr Freitas

[Jamothee]

Hi guys

Firstly just want to say thank you to all of the members on this forum and their experiences as it is it in a valuable tool to all of us in this situation.

I am currently a 36 year old male with an NW3 with possible progression to an NW4 in the next few years.

I'm on finasteride 1mg day and use nizoral twice weekly.

Was using minoxidil for quite some time roughly 2 years, but came off it due to being scheduled to go for surgery with Asmed. I've lost quite a bit of density in the past few months due to this but not really wanting to start minoxidil again. 

I am looking to get roughly 2500 graphs and would like this to be done by a hairline specialist. I've narrowed the list to Dr Jean Devroye or Dr De. Freitas.

I'd love to hear everyone's thoughts or anything that you may be able to add.

Thanks guys

 

[JayLDD]

Absolutely Dr Freitas, I would not consider Devroye a hairline specialist either. He does very natural higher norwood work with consistently strong yields but I haven't seen even one hairline case in the same league as Freitas, who seems to produce artpieces one after the other, and there are many.

Its honestly an odd comparison, Devroye very much focuses on more on the higher norwoods, mature and lower density hairlines but with a high degree of naturalness and good yields.  Freitas significantly more aggressive in density  which is typically much more uniform and youthful in design,  his patients no longer look like they have hairloss, Devroye's still typically look like they have some thinning and have a much less youthful result. Not saying that as an insult, but they have very different approaches from the many cases I have seen from both.

If I was a NW3+ and wanted hairline work at that graft number + could put up with his waiting list, Freitas would definitely be a top consideration, probably outright top. I personally wouldn't rate Devroye above Erdogan for hairlines, unless you were looking for a more conservative approach with a more mature design and lesser density.

Edited November 28, 2018 by JeanLDD

[Jamothee]

Thanks for your advice Jean. I know you are probably the most well researched guy on this forum so I appreciate your input. I'll wait for Freitas. 

Question for you; how noticeable is your hair transplant in real life, as in daylight. Anyone ever notice?

[Jamothee]

1 minute ago, Phil36fromaus said:

Jean can you seriously consider making some kind of blog or website where you give your assessments of which HT surgeon is best for which hairloss concern you have? Your ability to summarise each surgeon's skillset is utterly impressive. 

 

+1

There is no one on his level imo. 

[Jamothee]

Jean

Anyoneelse i should consider? Rahal maybe? I am determined to nail this thing, I'd rather spend the extra $$ to be able to sleep at night during those few months post op knowing I am in good hands.

[JayLDD]

8 minutes ago, Jamothee said:

Thanks for your advice Jean. I know you are probably the most well researched guy on this forum so I appreciate your input. I'll wait for Freitas. 

Question for you; how noticeable is your hair transplant in real life, as in daylight. Anyone ever notice?

I had a friend recently question why the lengths at the front are shorter than the sides and suggesting I should go to a better hairdresser (who has been very impressed even after the 6 month mark of the first procedure) but nothing else. Probably a good sign that they don't deduce anything further from that. Recently had quite a few compliments on my hair too which wasn't happening after my first transplant either. I'm still slightly bugged by one area the size of a small coin in my crown not being absolutely perfect, similar situation on one side behind that hairline going back into the midscalp that could probably do with 400ish grafts, but I'm probably not far off peak potential transplant results. 

If I had a procedure in future I would probably go to Konior because his involvement of all aspects of the procedure and also use of stick and place, but Freitas would definitely be a consideration also. I did the online consult with them before my second procedure and they suggested it would be an 18 month wait but someone on this forum who had a procedure with him said it is only a year if you go through specific patient reps of theirs. Either way at the time ASMED seemed a much better option than going through that waiting list, and still I think that was the best choice.

Also would mention that Freitas does use techs for extraction, but as does Devroye. I'd consider Rahal for FUT but probably not FUE. Not that its particularly worrying, but not a whole lot of patient or clinic posted results from Rahal at the moment to go off their current state of affairs. If you can put up with the Freitas waiting list I don't think there are any fundamentally better options for your situation.

[Jamothee]

3 minutes ago, JeanLDD said:

I had a friend recently question why the lengths at the front are shorter than the sides and suggesting I should go to a better hairdresser (who has been very impressed even after the 6 month mark of the first procedure) but nothing else. Probably a good sign that they don't deduce anything further from that. Recently had quite a few compliments on my hair too which wasn't happening after my first transplant either. I'm still slightly bugged by one area the size of a small coin in my crown not being absolutely perfect, similar situation on one side behind that hairline going back into the midscalp that could probably do with 400ish grafts, but I'm probably not far off peak potential transplant results. 

If I had a procedure in future I would probably go to Konior because his involvement of all aspects of the procedure and also use of stick and place, but Freitas would definitely be a consideration also. I did the online consult with them before my second procedure and they suggested it would be an 18 month wait but someone on this forum who had a procedure with him said it is only a year if you go through specific patient reps of theirs. Either way at the time ASMED seemed a much better option than going through that waiting list, and still I think that was the best choice.

Also would mention that Freitas does use techs for extraction, but as does Devroye. I'd consider Rahal for FUT but probably not FUE. Not that its particularly worrying, but not a whole lot of patient or clinic posted results from Rahal at the moment to go off their current state of affairs. If you can put up with the Freitas waiting list I don't think there are any fundamentally better options for your situation.

Thanks mate I'm fairly certain I will pull the trigger with Freitas. His work is pretty amazing from what I have seen and seems to match what I am seeking.

Konior is apparently not taking on any new clients unfortunately, also he is around double the price of Freitas. I would definitely consider him if he was an option though.

I know it's highly likely that I will need more than one (possibly 3) procedures to get the best possible results but my hairline is the most important thing to me at this stage.

Would definitely consider going to Asmed for my 2nd /3rd for density behind the hairline. 

[Jamothee]

Also its awesome to hear that you are getting compliments on your hair by the way man. I'm sure it's been a while in that department. 

[Jamothee]

Hahaha touche! Do tell Jean

[Payam]

41 minutes ago, Jamothee said:

Thanks mate I'm fairly certain I will pull the trigger with Freitas. His work is pretty amazing from what I have seen and seems to match what I am seeking.

Konior is apparently not taking on any new clients unfortunately, also he is around double the price of Freitas. I would definitely consider him if he was an option though.

I know it's highly likely that I will need more than one (possibly 3) procedures to get the best possible results but my hairline is the most important thing to me at this stage.

Would definitely consider going to Asmed for my 2nd /3rd for density behind the hairline. 

Do you know why konoir is not taking new patients? Is he retiring?

[Jamothee]

I believe it might be something to do with his results being so good. Might not have time for new clients. 

Ask them yourself if you like

[Payam]

3 hours ago, Jamothee said:

I believe it might be something to do with his results being so good. Might not have time for new clients. 

Ask them yourself if you like

Im confused, you asked and they flat out said no? Or was the wait time too long do you mean?

[PGDMMB]

5 hours ago, Jamothee said:

I believe it might be something to do with his results being so good. Might not have time for new clients. 

Ask them yourself if you like

What is Freitas pricing? 

[Jamothee]

2 hours ago, PGDMMB said:

What is Freitas pricing? 

I believe it's around the 3 euro mark per graft. Best to get a quote if you are interested in him, just flick them over an email

[Melvin- Admin]

9 hours ago, Jamothee said:

I believe it might be something to do with his results being so good. Might not have time for new clients. 

Ask them yourself if you like

I have asked Dr. Konoir, we certainly don’t want the wrong information to be out out there. 

[PGDMMB]

2 hours ago, Jamothee said:

I believe it's around the 3 euro mark per graft. Best to get a quote if you are interested in him, just flick them over an email

Did you say there is quite a long waiting list for this surgeon? 

[Jamothee]

3 minutes ago, PGDMMB said:

Did you say there is quite a long waiting list for this surgeon? 

Not 100% sure on waiting times but I believe it's roughly 1 year to 18 months. You'd have to confirm with them directly

[PGDMMB]

Just now, Jamothee said:

Not 100% sure on waiting times but I believe it's roughly 1 year to 18 months. You'd have to confirm with them directly

That’s a long fuckin time lol

[Jamothee]

Just now, PGDMMB said:

That’s a long fuckin time lol

You're not wrong! I'd prefer to wait and get it right though. 

[Melvin- Admin]

I have confirmed with Dr. Konoir himself. He is accepting new patients. However, he does have some restrictions because of the long delay before an opening is available. He prioritizes existing patients, but does accept new patients who are good candidates and are not in a rush. The information saying he isn’t accepting new patients is false. 

[pmehra]

So whom you choose?

[Claudio]

On 11/28/2018 at 1:11 PM, PGDMMB said:

That’s a long fuckin time lol

Is there a cancellation standby option like some clinics?