Senior Member mav23100gunther Posted July 22, 2016 Senior Member Share Posted July 22, 2016 So how come you're able to achieve good density with 4500 grafts and I had 5000 grafts ( if I don't count the remaining 1900 ) implanted in the same area as yours with two different doctors and cannot achieve good density ? Look at my post op pics mate, he covered a much smaller area than with you. I think I misunderstood your question. My hair was transplanted into a much smaller area than yours. Rahal wanted to cover a part of the midscalp lap, but he never got enough grafts from the strip. I also have fair skin and blonde hair which helps create that illusion of density. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member BaldPatient2 Posted July 22, 2016 Author Senior Member Share Posted July 22, 2016 BINGO - that's exactly the point and exactly the reason why hair restoration will very seldom restore a full set of dense hair that covers the whole head, and the reason so many high NWs with good donar supply are not good candidates for hair transplantation. That's the reason so many surgeons warn patients to rather focus on the frontal 3rd before trying to hit the crown. I think you are going to require at least 6,000 total grafts to just active dense hair in the front half before even touching the crown, I had only 900 to 1000 grafts implanted in the crown and at least 6000 grafts total implanted in third frontal and mid scalp with two different doctors , so exactly the same number you have given above so why I'm not able to achieve good density ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Bald36 Posted July 22, 2016 Regular Member Share Posted July 22, 2016 You've been saying 5000 grafts in the front "third". Now it is 6000? Yes I did see the placement and I agree with Mav21300gunther. What I think might be your problem is that you keep saying 5000 grafts were transplanted (or 6000) but are you assuming all of the original 2500 in the front grew before Dr. Wong's work? It doesn't look like it to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member BaldPatient2 Posted July 22, 2016 Author Senior Member Share Posted July 22, 2016 (edited) You've been saying 5000 grafts in the front "third". Now it is 6000? I said 5000 implanted in the front third and 6000 implanted in the frontal third and mid scalp. why do you keep misquoting and twisting what I wrote ? This is exactly what I wrote I had only 900 to 1000 grafts implanted in the crown and at least 6000 grafts total implanted in third frontal and mid scalp with two different doctors , Edited July 22, 2016 by BaldPatient2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member BaldPatient2 Posted July 22, 2016 Author Senior Member Share Posted July 22, 2016 but are you assuming all of the original 2500 in the front grew before Dr. Wong's work? It doesn't look like it to me. This is my pre-op picture of last year , you can see clearly that there was some coverage before Dr. Wong's work? and he didn't work on a bare scalp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Transhair Posted July 28, 2016 Senior Member Share Posted July 28, 2016 Hope you still end up seeing up improvement, even if it's getting a bit late for more hairs to grow. Did your recipient area have any noticeable scarring or discoloration from the original surgery? Or was it basically 100% healed normal skin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member BaldPatient2 Posted November 5, 2016 Author Senior Member Share Posted November 5, 2016 (edited) I just had another surgery with Dr Wong today to add more density. He was able to pull 2583 Grafts. Doug could update this thread with 10 months results of previous surgery taken just before today's surgery. Edited November 8, 2016 by BaldPatient2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Dutchie Posted November 5, 2016 Senior Member Share Posted November 5, 2016 It's already 7 month, and I know this is close to final results because I haven't seen any improvement since last month , so I don't expect huge changes in the next few months. Even Dr Wong admitted that any future growth will be minimal past this stage Join the club my friend. My transplant from Hasson & Wong is a complete failure as well. I'm at 9 months in case you're wondering Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member hopeisthebestthingihave Posted November 5, 2016 Regular Member Share Posted November 5, 2016 I just had another surgery with Dr Wong today to add more density. He was able to pull 2583 Grafts.Doug could update this thread with 10 months results from previous surgery taken just before today's surgery. Why would you deplete your donor area more? Have you ever even tried finastiride? Without fin, you';re basically never going to be pleased with the density in your hairline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member BaldPatient2 Posted November 8, 2016 Author Senior Member Share Posted November 8, 2016 Why would you deplete your donor area more? Have you ever even tried finastiride? Without fin, you';re basically never going to be pleased with the density in your hairline I already declined Propecia because of the side effects and not going to argue anymore about my decision. Still waiting for Doug to update this thread with pre- second-surgery photos taken last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member jcs87 Posted November 27, 2017 Senior Member Share Posted November 27, 2017 Bumping this thread. BaldPatient could you share some pictures from the 2nd procedure w/ dr wong with us? Really hope things turned out well for you. Or Doug could you post some photos since the patient has given his consent and we should be at the full 12 month mark of the 2nd procedure due to old nature of this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Kiwi Guy Posted October 28, 2018 Senior Member Share Posted October 28, 2018 terrible result for that many grafts, I would expect a better result, H&W were on the top of my list as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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