Ailesbury hair clinic, Any info?

[Faro]

hi all

first time user on this site so i will tell you a bit about my self im 28 yearsold, my hair started receding when i was about 26 but accelerated rapid in the last 12 months and is also thinning out on top started using topical minoxidill 6% about 3 months ago its to early yet to praise or complain about it but i got a huge shock after the initial shed which has yet to come back but since then the receding and thinning has seemed to stop.

Any way i have an appointment in the ailesbury hair clinic dublin in early jan cant find much patient reviews on the web about them i dont know if this is a good thing or a bad thing can any body out there tell me more about them or give me some advice on what questions i should ask when i go .

Thanks in advance

[cueball35]

hi, i dont really know much about this clinic, i seen a guy on ireland am on tv3 that got a HT with them but i didnt think it looked all that great. The general view on here from what i can gather is that there isnt any decent HT surgeons in ireland, dr collins in blackrock has produced good results if you take the actor james nesbitt and louis walsh as examples. but he charges a fortune, like 10 euro per graft!!

If i was you id take my time and wouldnt rush into anything, the key is research research research, have a look on here at examples of cases from the likes of rahal, feller, feriduni, hasson & wong, shapiro medical etc and send some photos of your situation to these guys, they do free consultations and you will learn a lot from their responses.

also have you looked into meds like propecia that may stabilise your hairloss while you do your research?

[TakingThePlunge]

Faro,

 

I've not heard of this clinic but definitely do research carefully. You only only get one shot at a first hair transplant and you don't want to end up a repair case.

 

I suggest checking out our list of prescreened hair restoration physicians around the globe.

 

Best of luck!

[chrisdav]

I think that clinic is the clinic in Ireland Calum Best went to, but i would give it a miss Faro.

 

They only do Fue from memory and there are far better out there in the usa,canada and belgium.

[Faro]

Hi Guys

Thanks for the replies , yea cueball I seen that guy on tv3 as well if that’s the best patient they can put forward as an example of there work I should keep well away from them, there is like a gap on the front between his transplant hair and old hair and the back looks very thin, He said he paid E20K for it and the company say they charge E3 per graph

so if you do the math he got 6,666 graphs and it still doesn’t look right , also if you Google that guys name he appears in an interview with another company (the cosmetic surgery company ) saying that he got the work done there , and as far as I can see there is no connection between them and Aylesbury hair clinic .

Chrisdav yea that’s the one Calum Best went to I did a bit of research in to that to they have been treating him since summer 2010 and any recent picks that I have seen of him don’t look like he has had any work done ,

So it looks like its back to square one again ,

Thanks again

P.S Where can I buy propecia in Ireland and what is generic propecia

[keithh]

Where can I buy propecia in Ireland and what is generic propecia

 

Propecia is not sold in Ireland but 5mg Proscar is. Its the same drug, just need to cut into quarters. Ask your GP about it.

[chrisdav]

Faro, you should have a look at the surgeons listed on here.

 

Calum best only went to the aylesbury hair clinic as his best mate ade phelen suggested it and he represents them. If he had better advice, he wouldn't have gone there.

 

I am not sure where you can get Finasteride from in Ireland.

 

It would be cheapest to get it on presciption from your doctor but that is not always possible. You can always try buying it from the clinics you have suggested in Ireland but they will charge a huge premium on them which personally i do not agree with and want to know why they do it.

 

Other alternative could be to mail Spex on here, i get my finasteride/propecia from ukfinasteride but i am not sure they mail to Ireland, but he will be of help to you.

[Ukresponder]

Hi Faro,

 

I echo the thoughts of everyone here, I had a similar hair loss story to you, it was the last year or so that accelaerated in terms of loss and then I went into panic mode to get this thing fixed, naturally I wanted something close to home, I looked into Europe and the UK, but as you will see, there is no body of evidence based results, they only ever have one or two examples and they are questionable at best as you have mentioned yourself, not to mention they are at a higher premium per graph any way!!?

 

You have to basically take location completely out of the equation. Excpect to pay ?500-?700 on travel costs on top of your budget, but you should look at that as an investment instead of an extra cost.

 

Take the advice of David here, there are several world class surgeons on here that can give you consistent natural results with much less grafts than other clinics.

 

These guys are full time passionate surgeons that only want to nail each case so they give you the best possible result.

 

You should look for a clinic that has:

An open house for consultations and results

That can show dozens of great results

That only do HT full time

That have a dedicated high class support staff

 

Your most likley gonna end up in the US, through these forums you can look at a number of results and you should start seeing a pattern towards which Docs who are showing good consistent results with also glowing reviews of the patients experience. I ended up going across the pond I short listed 3 guys all of them excellent, but ended up with DR Feller who is based in New York, and I have been very pleased with the results that I went for another one a few weeks ago.

 

I hope that helps with the rationale of making a decision. Once you take location out of the equation you will be suprised at how much more choice and class of clinic opens up only to your long term benefit.

 

You have to remeber once you start on this journey it is a long slow process, the sucess of your first HT will ultimatley put you in control of how you want to manage your hair loss in the future, becuase you will most liley need another tweak at a later date due to the progressive nature of hair loss as I found out for myslef just recently as my mid scalp was losing some density as well, because I got such a good HT first time round with only using 2000 odd grafts I have maintained plenty of donar supply for the future, your only in your late 20's you need to think long term and consider the extra cash into the travel as some form of prudence in to the best possible future management for your own hair loss needs and expectations.

 

I also get my medication from UK Finasteride, I know one or two guys from NI got theirs ok so worth asking if they ship to Ireland.

 

best,

 

Uk R

Edited January 4, 2012 by Ukresponder
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[Faro]

Hi guys

Thanks for the info, got Finasteride today in a local Trichology place ,it's not cheap €480 for 6 months worth.

[cedarwood]

Hi Faro,

 

How are you?

 

I just found this thread and was wondering, did you go ahead and meet with the people at the Ailesbury Hair clinic?

[Stublue]

Hi, I thought I would throw my 2 cents in. I went for a consultation with Ailesbury around 2 months ago and safe to say I was not overly impressed. Nice people but dont really seem to know what they are talking about. I met with a consultant (not a doctor) and she quoted me 2,700 hairs (they charge by hairs at Eur2.50, not grafts). She drew a line across my hairline to show the result and she literally brought my hairline down by about 2 centremetres!! Way off and would need a hell of a lot more than 2,800 hairs. The clinic doesnt specialise in HTs and I wasnt impressed with the facilities either. I also met the guy off TV3 and his hair is not particularly good and I thought it was pretty obvious that he had a HT. I mentioned overseas options to him such as Belgium and it was way over his head so he clearly did no reseach whatsoever. So all in all I would definitely give it a miss.

 

Also had a consult with HRBR in Dublin and they quoted 1,500 grafts (so around 3,300 hairs I believe) and their new hairline was far more conservative. I was impressed by the clinic but their prices are ridiculous at Eur10 per graft. Plus they only do FUT and I want to go the FUE route.

 

Ended up doing a good few consultations on line and went with Dr. Bisanga who quoted 2,000 grafts. Have my op next Feb. His reputation is second to none and he is actually cheaper than Ailesbury. An absolute no brainer for me. Dont let travel put you off.

 

Hope this helps!

[cedarwood]

Hi Stublue,

 

Thanks a lot for the reply, all the info you gave was great!

I'v just looked into Dr. Bisanga and it all seems fairly promising, I had my doubts over Ailsebury to be honest.

I'll certainly send them a mail.

Are you taking any meds to help stop the shed?

From your profile pic, you don't seem to be too bad! (compared to myself anyway!)

 

I have only begun to properly research and seriously think about HT

I guess it's now down to costs and affordability

[Stublue]

I currently use minoxidil and nizoral shampoo. I was on finasteride for 12 months but gave that up as it was affecting my libido and I no longer think the risks are worth it. Each to their own I guess as it did slow down my loss.

 

Yeah my hairloss isn't too bad but I really want to correct my hairline, which I can disguise pretty well. I would love just to have the option to have a short haircut with a good hairline that frames my face. I have lost a small patch of hair right at the centre of the hairline so I cant cut it too short without it being obvious. My crown has a small bit of loss and I am aware that I may need a further operation to address this, especially as im not on fin any more.

 

Definitely get in touch with BHR, they are very helpful. Just to give you a heads up their waiting list seems to be around 4-5 months. My op in Feb seems ages away!!!

 

Good luck and let me know how you get on.

[Bobilero]

So what exactly has gone on with Calum Best and Ailesbury. Their website states he has undergone treatment in July 2010 and hes 'delighted with the results and to check back for details'.

 

Now it seems hes undergone another procedure and gone public.! Presumably by him going public hes getting it for free. !

 

One can only come to the conclusion the Ailesbury op was a complete disaster.? He never looked like he even had anything done.? No mention to it in the new articles.

 

 

Calum Best follows Wayne Rooney and has a follicular transfer to fight premature balding | Mail Online

Edited January 14, 2013 by Bobilero

[chrisdav]

I have no idea Bobilero.

 

I read he went to Ailsbury and he was featured on the site for the first transplant.

 

Then also read the link you posted below regarding the Crown clinic which maybe a second surgery. If I remember rightly, Jotronic mentioned in a post before that he thinks he has concealer on in that picture.

[1978matt]

I just watched a Tv interview on the Ailsbury site. Laughable. They put a really thin FUE covering on some irish guy. EUR2500 for 1000 grafts. Poor result.

[Bobilero]

Yeah i agree it looks to me he had work done with Ailesbury, practically nothing grew and he's been lashing on the concealer ever since.

 

The guy obviously cannot afford to have some private treatment done and pay himself as he is continually having to go public with his ops.! To promote the clinic etc. Farcical really.

 

This is surely another warning for anyone considering Ailesbury clinic.

[james84]

I would suggest you can in touch with spex, he would be a great start for you and has helped lots of guys from the UK.

He would give you honest advice and knows everything there is to know regarding hair transplants.

 

Also research Belgium, some of the clinics there are world class and you cant go wrong.

 

KEY= research, research and research some more. I have been researching for the last 5 years:confused: it takes time, you only have limited supply:)

[StaggerLee123]

I understand there is a former MHR surgeon of ill repute floating around Ireland. If he were connected with this clinic I would run in the opposite direction. Who are the surgeons there?

[bressie]

I had a procedure with the Ailesbury hair clinic and would advise anyone to stay away from them they are just interested in your money and ripping you off. The results you get from the few hair's that do grow are far from natural looking as the hair's removed from the donor area are to coarse!! plus the hair from the donor area has grown back in patches where to much hair has been removed from one area! I wouldn't bother putting your trust in these people, in hindsight the whole set up at the Ailesbury hair clinic is a complete farce once they have your money that's the last you will hear from them and if you ask me it's all they are interested in! I later found out that the doctor worked for another company which hasn't got a very good reputation but at that stage it was to late for me, I just hope this will help others decide and not to make the same mistake i did.

[s2thoudriver]

Hi Faro

 

You don't need to go all the way to the States for a good HT. I had a fantastic result and experience in Istanbul.

 

The best part is, it was less than half the cost of either the UK (avoid) or the US.

 

Have a look at my thread on here if it helps at all, but like others say, do lots and lots of research.

 

Regards

 

Rob

[bressie]

Hi, I would just like to remind anyone considering going to the Ailesbury hair clinic in Dublin (ailesbury clinic) to stay away from it, the so called "doctor John" who has the audacity to even call himself a doctor is nothing more than a butcher in my opinion! these people are only interested in ripping you off it is an absolute disgrace what they do to people, the fue procedure is simply not what they make it out to be it is painfull and it is noticable as the hair's taken from the doner area are to coarse to placed in the recepient area and looks ridiculous all because of the butcher doctor john!! All this time later i'm still no better off if anything i'm worse off all because of my mistake going to the ailesbury clinic so do yourself a favour and AVOID these people and this farce of a so called hair clinic!!!

[Dublin87]

Hi Bressie, I read your comments regarding Ailesbury clinic. I went for a consultation there recently and they seemed pretty professional. I am considering getting the treatment done there but am slightly worried now since reading about your review. Could you explain a little more as to why you found them so bad and did you get any benefit from the procedure?