FUT vs FUE small amount

[bomberman]

Hi guys,

I know FUE v FUT has been done to death but I just wanted to ask your opinion on something i've been thinking about

 

People say fue is best for small amounts, ie under 1000, things like that. but the yeild can be as low as 50%

 

But if you were get fut for a small amount then the scar would be smaller? if the yeild is more like 90% with fut as i've read then would this not be better? fut is cheaper also

 

i never plan to have my hair short enough to have the scar exposed, so would fut not be such a bad idea?

 

i'm thinking about going with feller btw

[Cant decide]

A few things.

 

-With a good FUE doc, the yield is much higher then 50%. More like 80%+.

 

-Personally, if I had limited balding and would likely never need more than 1000 in my lifetime, I would pay the extra for FUE now to avoid the scar. Just in case you have a change of heart on the hairstyle. If on the other hand, you may likely need more work in the future, you may end up doing FUT anyway down the road so you mine as well save the money now and get the FUT done for this relatively small procedure.

 

-If you do 1000 FUT now, the scar will be smaller but in my mind, an 8 cm linear scar vs a 12 cm linear scar is essentially the same thing as they will both prevent you from wearing your hair very short (1 or 2 clip).

 

Good Luck

Edited November 22, 2011 by Cant decide

[richie48]

Hi bud

 

Got to agree with can'tdecide on this , done by the right surgeon the FUE yeald can be as high as 80% and Dr Feller is regarded as one of the best , but even Dr Feller has stated you get a higher than even 90% yeald from FUT .

 

To be honest all of this is irrelivent , it depends on age , hair characteristics and until you see an ethical surgeon and you both decide on how many grafts you need to reach your personal goal .

 

At the moment you may think you only need a 1000 , but , and I've seen this happen alot , people underestimate how many grafts you truely need to achieve the illusion of density .

 

And like cantdecide said a scar is still a linear scar no matter how long it is , I know I can cut my hair down to a number 2 clip without exposing my scar .

 

Post some pics or work out how many grafts you will need from where you are on the norwood scale , norwood 2 would need roughly 2000 grafts , nowood 6 would need roughly 6000 grafts etc etc .....

 

It does really depend on how many grafts you need bud , but if you don't mind any sized scar , then i say go strip , save a fortune and get the most yeald for your money , I'm going back to Dr Feller in Jan 2012 for around 2000 grafts , I'm going with FUT , I want the most grafts and best yeald for the best value .

 

Good luck

richie

[Atticus]

I agree with the others. In the case scenario you have presented, FUE would be the way to go.

 

Atticus

 

 

Hi guys,

I know FUE v FUT has been done to death but I just wanted to ask your opinion on something i've been thinking about

 

People say fue is best for small amounts, ie under 1000, things like that. but the yeild can be as low as 50%

 

But if you were get fut for a small amount then the scar would be smaller? if the yeild is more like 90% with fut as i've read then would this not be better? fut is cheaper also

 

i never plan to have my hair short enough to have the scar exposed, so would fut not be such a bad idea?

 

i'm thinking about going with feller btw

[Radius]

Also, for a small transplant FUE is much more comfortable, with a much shorter healing time for the donor area.

 

I mean, the discomfort of having a row of stitches (FUT) in the back of your head for 2 weeks can not be overstated!

[NEWHAIRPLEASE]

A few things.

 

-With a good FUE doc, the yield is much higher then 50%. More like 80%+.

 

-Personally, if I had limited balding and would likely never need more than 1000 in my lifetime, I would pay the extra for FUE now to avoid the scar. Just in case you have a change of heart on the hairstyle. If on the other hand, you may likely need more work in the future, you may end up doing FUT anyway down the road so you mine as well save the money now and get the FUT done for this relatively small procedure.

 

-If you do 1000 FUT now, the scar will be smaller but in my mind, an 8 cm linear scar vs a 12 cm linear scar is essentially the same thing as they will both prevent you from wearing your hair very short (1 or 2 clip).

 

Good Luck

Exactly!

[Blake Bloxham]

Bomber,

 

Like others said, in the hands of a talented follicular unit extraction (FUE) specialist, the yield should be much higher than 50% (in fact, many estimate that yield levels are close to that of modern FUT). I think the best thing to do is schedule some consultations with talented hair transplant surgeons, evaluate whether your case is better suited for FUE or FUT, and move forward.

 

Good luck!

[bomberman]

Thanks for your comments, i've decided against strip and am very interested in a small fue transplant with either feller or shapiro, about 400 grafts, but having contacted SMG they don't seem keen to do the procedure, commenting that "a hair transplants can easily look like a transplant if it’s not done correctly. The hairs can grow wiry and kinky. Perhaps see some patients in person."

 

I understand that people might be reluctant due to future loss but why are they discouraging me from a transplant stating that they can look "wiry and kinky"? It was my understanding that modern transplants were of a high standard, barely detectable if at all? this response from SMG has disheartened me immensely

Why are people only willing to help if you're hairloss is very serious, having this far back hairline has frustrated me for years and all i want to do is fill it in slightly so i can get some confidence back and start living my life again!

How do I go about meeting with UK patients who have had procedures with shapiro or feller?

[richie48]

Hi bomber

 

Contact Spex , he's had both strip and FUE , small sessions and large , he works for Dr Feller and is from the UK , he helped me when I was looking into consultations in 2007 .

 

I will say this though are you deffinatly sure 400 grafts will be enough ?

 

Mark out the area you wish to have hair transplanted into ,measure it roughly in square cms ,without seeing any photos of your hairline I can only go on what you've said but it sounds like you will need atleast 50-60 grafts per cm2 to match your exsisting dense hair line .

 

Multiply the cm2 by atleast 50 grafts per cm , this will give you a good idea how many grafts you will need , it may suprise you bud .

 

Good luck

 

richie

[mars]

feller will cost $4000 dollars for 400 fue anyone else thing thats above expensive and bordering on unethical?fue should cost $5-7 dollars not $10.

[bomberman]

I am pretty certain 400 - 450 will be enough, it's pretty minor work but it would make such a huge difference to me

$10 a graft does seem like a lot but in pound sterling it's only ?6.4 so 400 grafts works out about ?2500

but obviously you have to factor in flights and accommodation etc

[mars]

if your in the uk go to bisanga in brussels,cheaper flights,cheaper procedeur and better fue doc imo.

[bomberman]

as feller says in one of those links "He has minimal hairloss with no family history of major loss and because of this he was an excellent candidate for FUE." which is exactly me!

im not sure about bisanga, ive seen a couple of results and its cheaper but my gut says no, was considering SMG but they pretty much said it would be a poor result if i went with them!

i think feller might be the way to go, though there does seem to be a finite number of results for him, those ones you posted Spex i've seen before though they are good, is it that some people dont come back for post op pics? obviously this is the same for every other doctor though

[HARIRI]

I agree with MARS. Bisanga charges EURO 5 per graft and Feriduni charges EURO 4. Why go north america and you have talented surgeons in Europe, especially Bisanga, he is like the European Umar.

[Mountinvan]

I would look at Dorin (NYC) and Rahal (Ottawa). Both seem to get excellent FUE results. What do others think?

[HARIRI]

Well, due all my respect to these two surgeons, I wont call them excellent FUE surgeons even I like Dr. Rahal a lot. I advice you to go to Feller if you in east coast and Dr. Umar if you were in west coast. These two are the top US FUE surgeons IMO. But if you had to choose between Dorin or Rahal, then Rahal of course :-)

Edited December 11, 2011 by HARIRI

[mars]

Your gut feeling on bisanga is 1000% percent wrong,he is excellent at fue.

 

I had fue at smg,with regards to the kinked hair thats completly out of the clinic/docs hands its a physiological thing,i had a bit of kinkyness up to 10 months,i am 15months post op now and my kinkyness is gone,kinked hair is extremely common with initial growth and it is temporary.

 

Personally i feel charging $10 is taking advantage of patients,i know patients are free to choose who ever and a doc is free to charge whatever but that price is simply too much for a patient who feels dr feller is for him and then has no choice but to pay that ridiculous price.

[richie48]

Bisanga and Feriduni are producing some good work but I've only seen a couple of grown out results online , so for me I would still go with the most proven , consistant and transparent results shown online , and so far thats Dr Feller's work .

 

And don't lose sight of the fact Dr Feller trained Dr Rahal at FUE , and designed and patented FUE extraction tool favoured by many of the top FUE surgeons .

 

I'm going back to Dr Feller in Jan to have around 2000 grafts done , for me this will be the strip method , but I sure know who I would go see if I was a candidate for FUE and that would be Dr Feller .

 

richie

[mars]

Richie all due respect you are a patient of feller so your opinion is biasis and their for worthless.

 

If you want to see bisanga's feriduini's fue results go onto hairloss experiences or do a google search,unlike dr feller these docs do fue of more than just 1000 grafts or less,they punch out and recycle old mini grafts/plugs and remove offending grafts on the hairline big repairs etc..with respect to dr feller all he does is small scale fue and does not recycle/remove grafts,he does nothing other than just your basic grafting or camouflaging so there for these docs are on a different level of fue.

[Radius]

Or better, book a consultation with Dr. Feriduni and he can show you endless examples of his patients with brilliant results on his computer screen in his office. He really takes his time to do this for his potential patients. He's such a kind and informative man. (And he creates really beautiful and natural looking hairlines!)

 

Ok, maybe my opinion is biased and worthless too, because I'm a patient of this doctor.

[NEWHAIRPLEASE]

I would look at Dorin (NYC) and Rahal (Ottawa). Both seem to get excellent FUE results. What do others think?

 

Are you dead set on FUE? Regardless of FUE or FUT you CAN NOT go wrong with Dr Rahal!

[mars]

I never seen that one it looks really good in fairness..i read some before where dr feller himself said he doesnt like recycling grafts as the grafts arent viable nor does he like taking grafts from anywhere but the back of the head for whatever reason he had something like it wasnt safe i forget but both these points are flawed and false..nearly all dr fellers fue results are small scale when compared to other docs who produce 2500+ fue regularly that was the point i was making..i have nothing against dr feller i like most of his work,but he is a strip doc first and foremost.

 

Have you any more of these types of fue results from dr feller just to prove this patient is not a rarity?i have a feeling you do not have more like this.

 

Must hand it to you, you are number one online bodyguard for any doc you are quick of the mark,good for you.

 

Have you any donor area pics for that patient it looks like he had strip not fue i just noticed it now..?

Edited December 10, 2011 by mars

[mars]

Their was no attacking taking place i was stating facts as i have seen them rergarding dr fellers fue..when you show me 2000+ or even 1200+ graft fue cases,fue repairs(not strip like above pics with a few punch outs) i will say dr feller is amongst the best at fue because that is what you want readers to think ,i never said he doesnt produce nice hairlines etc..so their was no need to jump in a try to save the day..not to confuse my point i do think fellers fue is good for the small scale cases he does,if i wanted 2000 fue i wouldnt be going to feller because (A) i have never seen him do such a case (B) i would need to rob a bank.

 

All of bad hair uk's grafts were awful,those grafts were camouflaged,maybe a few that were too low were punched out thats not a big deal you are kinda cluthching at straws a bit with that point.

 

So i will take it the previous pics were of a strip patient who had a small amount of punchs out,that doesnt prove much regarding fue,it is however a very nice strip result the hairline looks great.

 

Incorrect i would only leave shapiro bisanga feriduini do fue on me,maybe mwamba too.

 

Agree to disagree it is,good discussion this was.

[aaron1234]

Thanks for your comments, i've decided against strip and am very interested in a small fue transplant with either feller or shapiro, about 400 grafts, but having contacted SMG they don't seem keen to do the procedure, commenting that "a hair transplants can easily look like a transplant if it’s not done correctly. The hairs can grow wiry and kinky. Perhaps see some patients in person."

 

I understand that people might be reluctant due to future loss but why are they discouraging me from a transplant stating that they can look "wiry and kinky"? It was my understanding that modern transplants were of a high standard, barely detectable if at all? this response from SMG has disheartened me immensely

Why are people only willing to help if you're hairloss is very serious, having this far back hairline has frustrated me for years and all i want to do is fill it in slightly so i can get some confidence back and start living my life again!

How do I go about meeting with UK patients who have had procedures with shapiro or feller?

 

Hey bomberman, I haven't seen any pictures of your hair but I assume from this thread that you have minimal loss. Sometimes transplanting on a patient with a good head of hair can do more harm than good due to shock loss in the surrounding areas. As Bill recently posted, "sometimes hair transplant surgery can expedite the dying of hairs already on their way out." Some schools of thought in the industry suggest that one should not get a transplant unless they are at least a NW3. The old adage "if it ain't broke don't fix it" applies here. It's tough having a good head of hair isn't it?

 

SMG has been very successful with FUE but I'm sure they want you to know what you are getting into. And meeting patients in person is a GREAT idea - no matter who did their work. I'm sure SMG and Spex can put you into touch with some UK patients. SMG and Dr. Feller are both fantastic with FUE and you can't go wrong with either. There are a handful of other docs that have been doing great FUE work as well. Take your time - look around. You're at the right place.

Edited December 11, 2011 by aaron1234

[JhonPaul]

Well the only major difference between FUT and FUE is that FUT leaves behind a mark of scar with on the scalp, while in FUE there aren't any possibility of scar formation.