Senior Member Matt Skiba Posted August 17, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted August 17, 2007 All you need to do is read this medical study and you will see that post-ejaculation men do indeed have higher levels of testosterone, and thus DHT. http://joe.endocrinology-journals.org/cgi/content/abstract/70/3/439 Maybe it's not just an old wives tale after all! --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Matt Skiba Posted August 17, 2007 Author Senior Member Share Posted August 17, 2007 All you need to do is read this medical study and you will see that post-ejaculation men do indeed have higher levels of testosterone, and thus DHT. http://joe.endocrinology-journals.org/cgi/content/abstract/70/3/439 Maybe it's not just an old wives tale after all! --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wanthairs Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 Maybe thats why I stated losing hair at 14 years old Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member NervousNelly Posted August 17, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted August 17, 2007 "The same steroids were also determined in a control study, in which the psychological antipation of masturbation was encouraged, but the physical act was not carried out." What did these poor bastards turn out like? The following is one of the men in the control group--- http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/groupee_files/photo_al...E5DF80A2D881F046.jpg NN NN Dr.Cole,1989. ??graftcount Dr. Ron Shapiro. Aug., 2007 Total graft count 2862 Total hairs 5495 1hairs--916 2hairs--1349 3hairs--507 4hairs--90 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member the B spot Posted August 17, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted August 17, 2007 Go Cubs! 6721 transplanted grafts 13,906 hairs Performed by Dr. Ron Shapiro Dr. Ron Shapiro and Dr. Paul Shapiro are members of the Coalition of Independent Hair Restoration Physicians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member nobuzz4me Posted August 17, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted August 17, 2007 B - LOL Somehow I knew you would chime in here, Can hair from my palm be transplanted?? I predict this thread will go downhill fast! NoBuzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Senior Member NervousNelly Posted August 17, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted August 17, 2007 Probably only fair to show a guy that was happy he wasn't in the control group.. http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/groupee_files/photo_al...358FBD2C3171E8CB.JPG Sorry guys but the boredom of doing nothing is getting to me. NN NN Dr.Cole,1989. ??graftcount Dr. Ron Shapiro. Aug., 2007 Total graft count 2862 Total hairs 5495 1hairs--916 2hairs--1349 3hairs--507 4hairs--90 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Regular Member 1.8t Posted August 17, 2007 Regular Member Share Posted August 17, 2007 So I take it everyone thinks this is a load of BS?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill - Seemiller Posted August 18, 2007 Share Posted August 18, 2007 LOL! Nope...wasn't in the control group and proud of it! I knew that somehow B Spot and myself were going to be mentioned. Ok...the serious part... Masterbation does not cause hair loss because DHT does not cause hair loss. It's in the genes. I have recently written a blog on it...you can read it here. Want more proof? 90 % of men masturbate! The other 10% are liars! That being said...all men would be bald. Since this is not true, one has to argue that masturbation does not cause hair loss. How do you like them apples! Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member MrJobi Posted August 18, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted August 18, 2007 If this was true all porn stars would be bald AND I would be a N7 JOBI 1417 FUT - Dr. True 1476 FUT - Dr. True 2124 FUT - Dr. True 604 FUE - Dr. True My views are based on my personal experiences, research and objective observations. I am not a doctor. Total - 5621 FU's uncut! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member pushing 40 Posted August 18, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted August 18, 2007 Matt, I thought your rantings were a little more scientific. Even if it does produce momentary increases in testosterone, it is not a prolonged, dramatic increase allowed by the body to sustain itself over time. Also, exactly how much of the additional testosterone is converted to DHT by the body and how long does that even last? How much DHT is allowed to bind to a hair follicle, over what period of time, and how is this correlated to the additional DHT? Does it even exist in the body long enough to bind? Your statement is as skewed as "I have a black dog; he is a spaniel; therefor, all black dogs are spaniels". Not. Granted, I'm an engineer, not a scientist, but that was pretty see through. Now excuse me while I go jerk off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill - Seemiller Posted August 18, 2007 Share Posted August 18, 2007 AND I would be a N7 LOL Jobi! Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Glock08 Posted August 18, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted August 18, 2007 Originally posted by 1.8t:a load of BS?? ..Bald Sperm???... My Hair Loss Weblog Dr. True 9/22/06 4326 grafts 2129 1's 2168 2's 6545 Total Hairs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Matt Skiba Posted August 19, 2007 Author Senior Member Share Posted August 19, 2007 I just made the post to see what people on here would think and maybe it might be an interesting read. I was just wondering whether people who masturbate chronically, like multiple times a day, throughout the day, every day, might be exposing themselves to more DHT. I honestly can't really say whether it's true or not. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member MrJobi Posted August 19, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted August 19, 2007 Matt and everyone else.. There is no relation between maturbation and hairloss. Let's focus our time and threads on meaningful subjects Although this is quite comical!! JOBI 1417 FUT - Dr. True 1476 FUT - Dr. True 2124 FUT - Dr. True 604 FUE - Dr. True My views are based on my personal experiences, research and objective observations. I am not a doctor. Total - 5621 FU's uncut! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member youngsuccess Posted August 19, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted August 19, 2007 "If you are wary of the side effects of finasteride you can find natural alternatives here..." "Saw palmetto has not been evaluated by the FDA for safety, effectiveness, or purity. All potential risks and/or advantages of saw palmetto may not be known. Additionally, there are no regulated manufacturing standards in place for these compounds. There have been instances where herbal/health supplements have been sold which were contaminated with toxic metals or other drugs." http://health.yahoo.com/drug/d04415a1 It took me about 2 seconds to find other reports that men experience sexual side effects with saw palmetto and other warnings about saw palmetto affecting hormonal changes in the body. I'm not saying this usually happens, but this just goes to show that virtually everything has side effects. ------- All opinions are my own and my advice should not constitute as medical advice. View my My Hair Loss Website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member MrJobi Posted August 19, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted August 19, 2007 Life causes sexual side effects. With that being said, Saw Palmettio in my opinion is a waste of time. JOBI 1417 FUT - Dr. True 1476 FUT - Dr. True 2124 FUT - Dr. True 604 FUE - Dr. True My views are based on my personal experiences, research and objective observations. I am not a doctor. Total - 5621 FU's uncut! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member youngsuccess Posted August 19, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted August 19, 2007 Exactly. ------- All opinions are my own and my advice should not constitute as medical advice. View my My Hair Loss Website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Matt Skiba Posted August 19, 2007 Author Senior Member Share Posted August 19, 2007 Come on now, this is unrelated to the topic here, that is only my signature. Regardless, the FDA does not approve the use of many herbs, vitamins, amino acids, nutrients, and the like for anything, but instead treats them as food, so it only regulates the fact that they're not poisonous or something. Look up The Dietary Supplement Health & Education Act of 1994 if you want to know what I'm talking about. Side effects probably can happen on saw palmetto, but they happen much less often than finasteride, and when they do they are probably milder and always reversible. As for supplements being contaminated with toxic metals and that sort of thing, I think that would be an issue of the reliability of the supplier. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member youngsuccess Posted August 20, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted August 20, 2007 Ok, I didn't realize that it was part of your signature at first. I guess challenging your feelings about fin. every time you post about something else would get redundant. My bad. ------- All opinions are my own and my advice should not constitute as medical advice. View my My Hair Loss Website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member yann Posted October 28, 2013 Regular Member Share Posted October 28, 2013 (edited) Over masturbation is the cause of MPB in certain men! Of course not all men are going to suffer from this curse. Certain men can jerk off 5 times a day and still retain a full set of hair, that's because they're not sensitive to DHT like the other 60% of the population. Anyway if masturbation is done in excess, multiple times a day for years, and you don't replace those precious nutrients, then it's going to manifest it's self somehow; and the body does this by going bald. You're walking around here nutrient deficient, tired, brain fog, you get head aches and shit. I bet you, stop jerking off and watch how good you feel. The medical community is lying when it says, masturbation is healthy, why do you think you feel sluggish after, why do you think your temples and forehead get hot during a after masturbation? I think the recommended amount of masturbation should be 12 times a year once a month. Eat a well balanced diet rich in nutrients, and jerk it once a month if you have too. When quitting, Yeah, the first few weeks is going to be tough, but you get to that 2-3 month mark, and you have mastered self control. I personally have stopped masturbation, and sex in general for a few months. I can't say that my hair is growing back yet, even though it looks like it is, but one thing I do know for sure is that my hair loss has slowed down. I take a multi vitamin, a few herbs, bee pollen, royal jelly, and a zinc supplement. Hopefully my hormones will balance out and the hair will return! Best of luck to you all! Edited October 28, 2013 by Future_HT_Doc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member greatjob Posted October 28, 2013 Senior Member Share Posted October 28, 2013 Over masturbation is the cause of MPB in certain men! Of course not all men are going to suffer from this curse. Certain men can jerk off 5 times a day and still retain a full set of hair, that's because they're not sensitive to DHT like the other 60% of the population. Anyway if masturbation is done in excess, multiple times a day for years, and you don't replace those precious nutrients, then it's going to manifest it's self somehow; and the body does this by going bald. You're walking around here nutrient deficient, tired, brain fog, you get head aches and shit. I bet you, stop jerking off and watch how good you feel. The medical community is lying when it says, masturbation is healthy, why do you think you feel sluggish after, why do you think your temples and forehead get hot during a after masturbation? I think the recommended amount of masturbation should be 12 times a year once a month. Eat a well balanced diet rich in nutrients, and jerk it once a month if you have too. When quitting, Yeah, the first few weeks is going to be tough, but you get to that 2-3 month mark, and you have mastered self control. I personally have stopped masturbation, and sex in general for a few months. I can't say that my hair is growing back yet, even though it looks like it is, but one thing I do know for sure is that my hair loss has slowed down. I take a multi vitamin, a few herbs, bee pollen, royal jelly, and a zinc supplement. Hopefully my hormones will balance out and the hair will return! Best of luck to you all!Post a Reply — Alert a Moderator For the love of God will people like you stop posting this bull crap! Masturbation or sex has no effect on hairloss, if you believe otherwise then how about you show some empirical evidence that backs up your claims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member scar5 Posted October 28, 2013 Senior Member Share Posted October 28, 2013 I have tended to need more grafts on the left side of my scalp over the years, and,it,is no news ti any ht people that hairloss is not symmetrical.IMO,and being right handed i do wonder about the connection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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