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havent seen much posts about it in forums. i saw only few in reddit and that too not great results. the hair condition didnt worsen for them and hair quality improved. but didnt see any huge regrowth which i was expecting.

in just 4.5 months it already looks great. you should get most of the results by month 7,8.

stick to thailand for asian hair types. dr path. dr laorwong give great results.

you are using the best shampoo for hair loss so dont change that, then see dermatologist to get on meds which will block DHT in your system like fin/dut . preferrably they start you on fin either 1mg thrice per week or 1 mg everyday. Minoxidil you can take topical as the application also seems more easy for you on that crown area and other areas it can be applied too . One more thing you may get prescribed is multi vitamins but that depends on you if you wanna take them. It helps if with diet you are not able to get the basic nutrition for your body which ultimately affects your hair. no point using any other treatments. these are the ones which work from personal experience and also from scientific studies these are the gold standard meds for hair loss. *Dermarolling is something people try now. (that may be the other thing which gets added to regime for higher norwood atleast as its easy to do without worry about existing hair tangled or damaged. coming to clinics: stick with either of pittella/eugenix. Zarev i would say go for him only if you want to wait 3-4 years for surgery and can afford him. give meds enough time for results. 1 year before your surgery you should start meds.

Great results !

If you want to add dr vinita name to title along with das then please do .. as people looking for her cases / this package review will benefit.. Quite a big area covered for you. Its like medispa didnt do anything in 1st op.. so much less yield. good luck for results.. and keep updating us with progress

I loved those videos (and was wowed too ) and admire him for doing this for community but I am skeptical too for below reasons. 1)I think those big cases were only on people with extraordinary donors. Not all his cases will be that high grafts ( all from scalp). surely we will see beard and body grafts used just like others. 2)I think there is huge risk that lot of those grafts he put there will not survive without DHT meds because he literraly took non DHT resistant hairs. Once the patient gets sides from meds or something happens like trying for a baby then they have to get off meds. All those hair are falling out for sure. and even in best case that they take meds for life , meds can only slow it down. Can't stop it. 3)Once his number of cases increase so will the bad cases of shock loss and if they get it then there will be no hair on back and sides as already he took majority which were the good ones. his videos did great marketing for him as it got him booked completely and i am happy for him but until lots of result with long term results come i cant say that his method is better than others.

that somebody should not take dutasteride 2.5 mg daily. probably should take 1 mg FIN but if want DUT then 0.5 mg dutasteride is fine. 5 mg oral min is probably fine if doctor says so after proper checkup. would have said to start with 2.5 mg first. meds win at first , later they slowly lose the fight but its years down the line. Some people have gone 10 years without much change in their hair with 1 mg FIN daily and for some there was very less ground lost. 20+ years is something for which there are very less stats. 10 years is the most documented one. https://www.reddit.com/r/Hairloss/comments/11lihrw/10_years_on_finasteride_results/

I say fight as your opponent "AGA" seems less aggressive. you have used just little over 1k grafts. no need to worry about it. ( as you said forward looking is better) your current situation is honestly quite good for a 29 year old. you dont seem to have aggressive AGA so you can make do without DHT meds as you have decided not to take them going forward. Oral min , ketocanazole and microneedling should help you enough . LLLT is probably not needed. The doctors you have consulted are quite good and any of them can give you a great result. konior if you can get then maybe he can give best hairline. but others are quite good too. look if no one in your family is norwood 4+ then it means less chance of you going there. you can make do without meds too if you reach max norwood 3,4 . you can get additional procedures to fill in. if you end up at norwood 5+ then it becomes tricky without meds but if you have body or beard hair to give then its fine. not ideal but fine.

thanks for pic and if possible do upload front and mid-scalp pic when hair is not wet. with wet hair its will look more sparse. if mid-scalp is actually sparse when hair is dry then i will say use 2000 grafts to make mid-scalp more dense .. you can have a slick back hairstyle to cover the crown that way. and use just 500 on upper part of crown. meds will take care of lower part of crown for you. you have to give topical fin a chance as you dont want crown to dip down more, its already going down a bit more than desirable. it doesnt make sense to use grafts in area which can be fixed with meds/hidden with hairstyle and is at back of head. you can check reddit for results on topical finasteride. for me personally i used topical for 5 years ( but i used alternate days and sometimes quit it for weeks or months due to topical being inconvenient and also during peak covid i was out of stock and it was a non essential med for them to deliver. ) even when i used it daily , topical fin slowed down progress but no huge gains. rather lost my crown but may have been due to stopping it 2-3 months. oral i think is more effective but have seen cases on reddit with huge gains on topical too. you may be one of them.

think this should be your profile picture as old one is misleading now 😄looks like a different person

pure nonsense. protein is always needed to body. unless they have some scientific reason they should not post such things.

cant wait for the second surgery results. Good luck to the patient. no finasteride makes sense as he was norwood 6.

damn ! its like they wasted all the hair as i dont see much improvement from 1st surgery. So much less yield. It wont be case with dr munib and it already looks so much better than those 1st surgery images..

can you provide graft count and grafts distribution details along with medication details ? Result is good yes but you probably didnt need the "5 star review" in title and all text boosting them 😄 . Makes it look paid.

1)if when taking photos from same anglee, light and camera , distance and hair length and dry/wet hair , your hair density throughout scalp looks exactly same then yes your hair loss didnt progress and has stabilized. You can also check if you lose only 100-150 hair throughout the day ( hair wash, hair combing, towel drying, hair massage when using any topical solution and a ten more hair added which you didnt see fall like when you run your hand through them in the day). 2)other scientific way to know is trichoscopy test which will let you know miniaturized hair count and density in your whole scalp. You can get a baseline test and repeat test every year on same day. doing baseline test also you know how many hairs are miniaturized so you know if AGA is still aggressive.

can you post your first HT pre and post-ops ? Want to see how they implanted to get you here. good post-op results so far from second surgery.it looks set for good results. do update us with every month results.

currently you are norwood 3 with very slight hair thinning in crown. graft count is pretty standard for norwood 3 . only a few hundreds can increase if want more density. do tell the surgeon names as asked above. majority of those 3k are going to front area connecting upto mid-scalp with some light touch ups if needed in mid-scalp to crown which will be in some hundreds given i see you need 100-200 grafts in your crown. so max 400-500 going there if they see some thinning in that bridge area .(with current photos i cant predict how bad the area connecting your crown to mid-scalp is. see these videos and you get idea and use just for reference and not recommending you these doctors as i dont know your budget. I think these cases similar to your hairline. (these are of dr de freitas) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRaFc-3bsSo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7G9_0lPd4c https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kirDy0i5FMA in this one below they have done some mid-scalp too (this is i think dr juan couto) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=do5moLghKnw getting regrowth in hairline that too all the hairs to grow back is very rare.. good that you got some regrowth there.. it helps in more dense hairline when existing hair combined with transplanted hair.

Great results .. is the patient planning for a second procedure for the crown ? He has got good gains from meds in lower part of crown.. but rest part is still thin and details of his meds please ?

for your peace of mind you can get a trichoscopy test done which will give you clear idea which areas of scalp has how much density and you will be told if miniaturized hairs are there and many more details. you can set that as baseline and in future whenever you think you are losing hair then get another test done and compare. This way its easy for you to know which areas you are losing and can see pattern before it actually forms on scalp due to a lot of thinning over a time period.

It all comes down to one question though that "what is your existing hair density in the areas they will transplant?". If its very less then its easy for them. some surgeons can do no-shave well. It all depends on their experience doing this type of HT. Some are just not comfortable with it and prefer shaving your head. Currently surgeons are used to shaving head and doing HT. its much faster to create slits when they can see scalp easily and also helps in faster implantation. In my opinion, they should also inform you that result will be nearly same and sometimes it can be same too but risk is higher. It is going to be inconvenient for them and you too after HT to take care of scalp. To earn little extra they will offer you no-shave. I will suggest to shave it.

Its not just your miniaturized hair that he would have seen but also how much hair per cm2 all over your scalp. you cannot see follicle to follicle. see with HT you want to add illusion of density because you will be putting way less grafts than what a person without hairloss will have. but because your donor hairs will be thicken and you use meds you hair will be quite thick. but in your case they cannot add hair in places you have hair already as its exceeding the hair count per cm2 which they would have added with HT. so much dense packing is fine when you have them naturally but when adding with HT, you can damage nearby hair easily so you lose some existing hair and also your transplanted hair might not survive as you may not have that much blood flow in that area to supply to both existing hair and transplanted hair . your scalp tries to adjust when HT happens by increasing blood flow but it can only do so much. so some hair will be lost there too. perfectionism doesnt exist in HT. being an ethical surgeon he has to help you with scalp coverage wherever actually necessary . ( places where scalp is visible even when your hair length is decent). Sure if you are lower norwood he can give aggressive hairline because there transection wont happen. he gets bald area to put hair into. and atleast for now you dont look like diffuse thinner to me too.

what age you started meds ? that will give so much hope to many as after 37 years of hair loss you just needed 2k grafts to fix them. Probably your AGA was very less aggressive.

I think he should be recommended. I honestly thought he already was but maybe that was other forum 😄. He is a very good budget option according to me. Btw i dont think you needed to post past results as we got 5 of them today itself which justifies his good work. Maybe that is why we got bombarded with his results today. JK. I think pros are evident : clean work in a good budget. Great donor management. Out of the only 2 cons : first one (minor) , which to some is also a plus is that he sometimes take more conservative approach than desired for hairline . which make you look slightly older than what you would have liked after a HT. That does benefit in long term as more grafts available for future and less chance of shock loss.This is a con for people looking for very aggressive hairline work. The other one is motorized extraction but at that budget i dont think manual is possible as it would have been time taking and price would have increased. Also obviously comfort of surgeon on that tool. if he is getting good results on it then its fine. They use customized tool but i still think manual may have an edge over motorized.

he had lost that frontal area nearly completely so really good result . Not much existing hair there to add to density but still good density achieved.